wine and pulse audio.Can they work together?

stimpak · Post by **stimpak** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:56 pm

i've upgraded ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 and now the pulseaudio doesnt get along with wine.

from my limited knowledge wine doesnt sent the sound correctly at pulseaudio(?)

i've found out this link which explains a work around. But unfortunately i dont know if it actually stands.

opinions?

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:37 pm

stimpak wrote:i've upgraded ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 and now the pulseaudio doesnt get along with wine.

from my limited knowledge wine doesnt sent the sound correctly at pulseaudio(?)

i've found out this link which explains a work around. But unfortunately i dont know if it actually stands.

opinions?

Remove/disable pulseaudio. Wine will not work with it, unless you talking about making some noise not sound. It's just another sound server that people keep migrating all their junk from previous to the next one.

stimpak · Post by **stimpak** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:51 pm

i know that i might start a flame war but, since pulseaudio comes bundled and as default for Hardy (ubuntu 8.04) there isnt at least a consideration for making a wine driver for it?

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:57 pm

stimpak wrote:i know that i might start a flame war but, since pulseaudio comes bundled and as default for Hardy (ubuntu 8.04) there isnt at least a consideration for making a wine driver for it?

Nope. Wine already has lots of drivers. You can choose which one you want. But pulseaudio is not one of them. You can file bug with ubuntu to un-bundle pusleaudio from it.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:59 pm

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:51 PM, stimpak <[email protected]> wrote:

i know that i might start a flame war but, since pulseaudio comes bundled and as default for Hardy (ubuntu 8.04) there isnt at least a consideration for making a wine driver for it?

The topic's been brought up on wine-devel. The problem is that getting
a full sound driver is a lot of work. We don't want 20 half supported
sound drivers, but rather fully implemented ones. If someone were
willing to implement a FULL sound driver, then it could be discussed,
but not a small driver that just does forwarding.

oiaohm · Post by **oiaohm** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:23 pm

Pulse took a short cut. They don't provide a pcm interface.

Wine was designed that pcm would always be there either threw dmix or threw the cards hardware mixer.

Now it is possible to get Pulse to work with wine by virtualising pcm but its laggy massively so.

Get onto Pulse to provide a working pcm layour thinking alsa design said we could always have it. Problem if we cannot have it we will need to put something like dmix inside wine that will still have lag to hell problems. We need far more volume controls that the default mixer ctl mixer can provide.

Same lack of hardware mixing emulation causes wine trouble when using oss threw pulse. One defect is causing us major problems. Because they read pcm as optional. Sorry its option for a sound card to provide it. But its not optional for all applications.

oisin · Post by **oisin** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:26 pm

pulseaudio has a tool pasuspender for apps that dont work with pulseaudio. It temporarily disables pulseaudio while the program runs.

Just run wine like this;

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 pasuspender wine <app>

Its just a workaround but it works. I've heard there is a pulseaudio driver in the works, whether or not it will ever be included is a different question. Personally I would love to see wine and pulseaudio work together.

Also if you have the JACK sound server running you can use this to connect wine and pulseaudio, though I have never tried this.

oiaohm · Post by **oiaohm** » Fri May 16, 2008 11:21 pm

That is not without side effects oisin.

Lauri Niskanen · Post by **Lauri Niskanen** » Sat May 17, 2008 11:28 am

I got wine and pulseaudio working together with this tutorial: http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/200 ... get-along/