wine apt no logner add-able

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:01 am

I'm running xubuntu 9.04 on dual boot with 98SE 900mhz 384mg ram 100gb drive. you know, all the latest cutting edge stuff to date.

any who i noticed the install direction on the main page have changed because you use to have to install the Scott Richie file and the APT line was longer and different.

when i copy and paste "ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" my add source button stays greyd out. i know it's not broken cause i can add other APT lines as i have tried just to test.

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:05 am

cdoublejj wrote: when i copy and paste "ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" my add source button stays greyd out. i know it's not broken cause i can add other APT lines as i have tried just to test.

Ask on the Ubuntu forum. This is a package manager issue, not a Wine issue.

Gert van den Berg · Post by **Gert van den Berg** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:20 am

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 07:01, cdoublejj <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm running xubuntu 9.04 on dual boot with 98SE 900mhz 384mg ram 100gb drive. you know, all the latest cutting edge stuff to date. [Laughing] any who i noticed the install direction on the main page have changed because you use to have to install the Scott Richie file and the APT line was longer and different.

when i copy and paste "ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" my add source button stays greyd out. i know it's not broken cause i can add other APT lines as i have tried just to test.

Those instructions are for 9.10 and newer. The PPA on launchpad have
an option to show instructions for the older versions....

dimesio wrote:
Ask on the Ubuntu forum. This is a package manager issue, not a Wine issue.

It is a Wine website issue...

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:30 am

Gert van den Berg wrote: It is a Wine website issue...

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23050

Gert van den Berg · Post by **Gert van den Berg** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:39 am

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa seem to have 1.2-rc5
packages for 9.04...

(Getting to the instructions for adding it requires a few clicks though...)

"Technical details about this PPA" needs to be clicked for versions
not supporting the ppa: syntax...

Gert

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:22 pm

if i use the launch pad is it still the official wine releases and does it still update wine? is this i problem cause 9.04 dropped?

was 9.04 dropped?
i was wondering what happened to the old install instructions? isn't there an archive. it was easy copy a line of text and always have the latest version of wine.

Gert van den Berg · Post by **Gert van den Berg** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:34 pm

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 21:22, cdoublejj <[email protected]> wrote:

if i use the launch pad is it still the official wine releases and does it still update wine? is this i problem cause 9.04 dropped?

The source code is the official Wine releases.... Packages are
maintained by volunteer packagers (Scott Richie for Ubuntu (both the
PPA and wine.budgetdedicated)) that might add potentially unsupported
patches or more likely, better integration like menu entries, etc...

The launchpad link is what the ppa: thing would add on new Ubuntu's...
(9.04 doesn't support the easy method to add the PPA...)

You should be able to add the ppa using the instructions on the
launchpad site (which might be handy for copying to the downlaod/deb
page...)

i was wondering what happened to the old install instructions? isn't there an archive. it was easy copy a line of text and always have the latest version of wine.

The wine.budgetdedicated repository doesn't get updated anymore...

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:45 pm

so does that mean they dropped 9.04 and older. or is it harder to install them?

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:41 pm

i wish there was an edit button. i would upgrade to 9.10 but i heard the wirless doesn't work as well. i also i think it will need to more power like ram and cpu speed. is this true? why is there difference to from 9.04 and 9.10 why just they look the same why not jut patch 9.04 having to upgrading every year will mean needing more power in the future and less reverse compatibility in the future as well. am i completely wrong?

Gert van den Berg · Post by **Gert van den Berg** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:52 pm

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 23:45, cdoublejj <[email protected]> wrote:

so does that mean they dropped 9.04 and older. or is it harder to install them?

The PPA still have packages for 9.04.

Ubuntu 9.10 introduced an easy way to add PPA's which is what all the
instructions give... The method for 9.04 stayed the same (It might
help to ask on the Ubuntu forum if you can't figure it out...) that it
always was (Which is quite a bit more involved than 9.10. It involves
adding apt-lines (which are listed on the PPA's site) and installing
keys (also listed on PPA page))

The LTS version are meant to be used for extended periods. Whether or
not Wine's packages will keep updating for the same time is another
question...

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:40 pm

sigh things always have to be complicated. i have done some research 9.04 seems to be a little better than 9.10 as 9.10 seems to have some hiccups. i think they should revert the instructions page. i'll ask on ubuntu.

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:45 pm

i'd also like to thank you all for the info. i'm still open to suggestions though.

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:21 pm

i was able to add the PPAs from launchpad but, nothing installed. i might just be forced to go with 9.10

James_Huk · Post by **James_Huk** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:14 am

You know - you can compile wine yourself, don't you? It is not difficult process (although on your PC it make take up to 2-3 hours). I suggest you try it:

First:
sudo apt-get build-dep wine (this should download and install most of wine dependencies)
and
sudo apt-get install checkinstall (this will help you create a .deb package)

Then download wine source from winehq download page, unpack it,and cd to it in the terminal. Then (while in wine source dir) type in terminal:

./configure (now wait to see if there are any errors or warnings - there may be some complains about headers not found - you can post them here or simply try to find the correct package in synaptic - for example if configure complains that it cannot find libmpg123, that means that you have to install libmpg123-dev, if you already have libmpg123-dev then it may be simply too old - then just ignore this warning)

Now if there were no errors type:

make

And wait - on old PC it will take some time thought...

After compilation is finished you will see:

"Wine build complete"

That is it - well almost, you can use this wine like this:

(while in the directory) ./wine start /Unix /path/to/your/application.exe

Or you can create normal deb package (and I recommend that you do):

(still in wine source dir) type:

sudo checkinstall

and follow instructions (you may need to change name from wine-1.2 to wine - or whatever the name of wine package in Ubuntu is - so it is replaced properly)

This may also take some time (on your PC 10-30 minutes, maybe more)

After that you will end up with wine deb package - if it wasn't installed already - install it:

sudo dpkg -i wine_something.deb

That is it.

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:32 am

thats a lot of work my other 9.04 systems still get wine updates or so i assume the last i checked 1 was running wine 1.1.44! the info is appreciated it might just come in handy some time. it's 900mhz 384mb pc100 ram low bus speed. again if any one has the old APT codes for 9.04 software sources or web site dev could link the old install instructions on the new install page.

James_Huk · Post by **James_Huk** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:01 am

Sorry - because you mentioned you are also running Win98SE I thought you have a CPU more close to 400MHz - with the config you mentioned wine should compile much faster.

thats a lot of work

No it is not ;p - it may seem that way because I gave pretty long instructions - but in reality (assuming you have all dependencies installed) it all comes down to download and unpack source and call ./configure && make;sudo checkinstall ->next, next,next

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:37 pm

yeah but, will update it's self to the latest version. otherwise they have a deb archive.

James McKenzie · Post by **James McKenzie** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:23 pm

cdoublejj wrote:

yeah but, will update it's self to the latest version. otherwise they have a deb archive.

No. However, there was a hardware failure with one of the Debian
archive maintainers systems. It has been fixed and the maintainer has
held releases until today.

Hopefully, a new release will appear this weekend.

James McKenzie

cdoublejj · Post by **cdoublejj** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:27 pm

looks like i'm going with launchpad ppas i found some instruction my only problem is it's annoying cause there is no gpg that i can down load just some text listing some long garbled numbers and letters. i can still install wine though it just asks if i want to install without verification and i just hit "Y".