Wine and Pulseaudio: it's working though.
Wine and Pulseaudio: it's working though.
Hello.
I've just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and wine-1.1.44, and I have sound without having to configure anything.
I'm surprised because the sticky thread at the beginning of the forum seems to imply that it doesn't work.
So am I just lucky, or are the problems solved?
Thanks.
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F. Delente
I've just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and wine-1.1.44, and I have sound without having to configure anything.
I'm surprised because the sticky thread at the beginning of the forum seems to imply that it doesn't work.
So am I just lucky, or are the problems solved?
Thanks.
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F. Delente
Re: Wine and Pulseaudio: it's working though.
It might work for some programs in some specific HW/SW configurations. Anything that requires something more sophisticated then playing one 1/2 channel pcm audio stream probably won't work.fdelente wrote:I've just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and wine-1.1.44, and I have sound without having to configure anything.
I'm surprised because the sticky thread at the beginning of the forum seems to imply that it doesn't work.
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If you use GIT, use this hack to have sound through Pulseaudio with wine.
http://art.ified.ca/?page_id=40
Works wonders here.
http://art.ified.ca/?page_id=40
Works wonders here.
You probably were using the ESD plugin, weren't you?
Also, for recent issues between Wine and PA, I came up with a not-that-decent solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... omments/10
Cheers,
Jorl17
btw: Until I had those issues, I ran Wine perfectly in over 6 machines running PA. One of them had 5.1 output and it just worked(tm).
Also, for recent issues between Wine and PA, I came up with a not-that-decent solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... omments/10
Cheers,
Jorl17
btw: Until I had those issues, I ran Wine perfectly in over 6 machines running PA. One of them had 5.1 output and it just worked(tm).
jorl17 you did not list the applications you are running. Its critical.
Some applications depend on audio for timing under windows. They can play up majorly with pulseaudio in place even with dmix infront of pulseaudio.
ESD driver is not maintained so no one should be using it.
Alsa driver that is has same kinds of issues with games and items that depend on audio timing.
IE not running with PA finds out is it timing related or not.
Also the pulse audio driver http://art.ified.ca/?page_id=40 so called for wine is a hacked up version of OSS driver and the OSS driver has issues with some games alone without being altered. Basically if standard OSS or stanadard ALSA output options don't work in wine you are playing huge risk.
Also that pulseaudio driver has been rejected from include in wine due to its failures when tested. Daz Letzte Einhorn.
Lot of alterations have been done to the wine ALSA driver to make it Pulseaudio friendly as able. So pulseaudio failures with ALSA driver in wine should be reported once confirmed. Question is who as screwed up. Pulseaudio or wine.
I just wish pulseaudio would make themselves to alsa applications appear to be the normal stack.
Some applications depend on audio for timing under windows. They can play up majorly with pulseaudio in place even with dmix infront of pulseaudio.
ESD driver is not maintained so no one should be using it.
Alsa driver that is has same kinds of issues with games and items that depend on audio timing.
IE not running with PA finds out is it timing related or not.
Also the pulse audio driver http://art.ified.ca/?page_id=40 so called for wine is a hacked up version of OSS driver and the OSS driver has issues with some games alone without being altered. Basically if standard OSS or stanadard ALSA output options don't work in wine you are playing huge risk.
Also that pulseaudio driver has been rejected from include in wine due to its failures when tested. Daz Letzte Einhorn.
Lot of alterations have been done to the wine ALSA driver to make it Pulseaudio friendly as able. So pulseaudio failures with ALSA driver in wine should be reported once confirmed. Question is who as screwed up. Pulseaudio or wine.
I just wish pulseaudio would make themselves to alsa applications appear to be the normal stack.
Oh, you are right, my tests have only been run in relation to simple apps such as games with stereo-only support or software-positional-sound (Age3y, CSS, the movies, speak freely, cs1.6, steam, firefox+flash, wmplayer, fm09/10, FIFA08/09/10, red alert 3, simcity4, sims3, ...). Though I usually talk about PA+Wine when I remember that most people, in the "'ol' days" came here complaining about how even winecfg failed them.
Still, the audio timing has always been great, as well as stereo and audio input...on my limited applications list.
Still, the audio timing has always been great, as well as stereo and audio input...on my limited applications list.
That wasn't irony if it sounded like it, I should mention. As to audio, I'm not sure what sound cards they ran in, but I can assure you that it worked on various onboard cards, in at least two Nvidia-HDA cards. Basically, I'd say they are all similar or equal to Nvidia-HDA cards. For instance, this PC reports:
Cheers,
Jorl17
Unfortunately, most of the other computers are not in my possession anymore, or have been so badly torn apart that I can't get that info.Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
Cheers,
Jorl17
snd-hda-intel , but I've uploaded the ALSA-info script for your convenience: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a534a ... 22a8af649evitamin wrote:Which ALSA driver does it use?jorl17 wrote:Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)