Documents do not open when icon is clicked - Ubuntu 9.10

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:54 am

I have WINE installed. I find that the only way to open documents, such as word and excel is to open the application then go to File menu, select Open, find the file and open that way.

Post by **dimesio** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:45 am

Jonners59 wrote:I have WINE installed. I find that the only way to open documents, such as word and excel is to open the application then go to File menu, select Open, find the file and open that way.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19385

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:24 am

dimesio wrote:
Jonners59 wrote:I have WINE installed. I find that the only way to open documents, such as word and excel is to open the application then go to File menu, select Open, find the file and open that way.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19385

This is not the same problem. Mine does not say it can not find, it just ignors the command to open. If I open Word and find the file, it will open, but it does not if the icon is ticked, especially if on a server or external drive...

Post by **dimesio** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:46 am

Jonners59 wrote: Mine does not say it can not find, it just ignors the command to open. If I open Word and find the file, it will open, but it does not if the icon is ticked, especially if on a server or external drive...

Have you set your file manager to use Word to open doc and docx files? Are the drives mapped in winecfg?

Also, what version of Wine are you using? If it's not the latest development release, upgrade.

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:58 am

It is the latest, and yes Word, Excel, PPT, etc are the mapped apps to open the documents...

Not sure about the "Are the drives mapped in winecfg? "

There are a number of drives, many on other machines, and it does happen within the PC's folders/drives too, even desktop, but not always. Sometmes I get round it by coping to the Desktop, unless that fails to work

Martin Gregorie · Post by **Martin Gregorie** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:21 pm

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 10:24 -0600, Jonners59 wrote:

dimesio wrote:
Jonners59 wrote:
I have WINE installed. I find that the only way to open documents, such as word and excel is to open the application then go to File menu, select Open, find the file and open that way.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19385
This is not the same problem. Mine does not say it can not find, it just ignors the command to open. If I open Word and find the file, it will open, but it does not if the icon is ticked, especially if on a server or external drive...

Have you configured Nautilus (the Gnome equivalent of Windows Explorer)
to run Word in Wine when you click the document icon?

Right click on the document, select 'Open with Other Application' and
use 'Use a Custom Command' and write the command needed to start Word in
the box, e.g. something like

wine "C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\word.exe"

Nautilus will append the file name when it starts Word. Disclaimer: I've
tested this using OpenOffice, not Word because I don't have Word
installed.

Martin

Post by **dimesio** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:51 pm

Jonners59 wrote:It is the latest, and yes Word, Excel, PPT, etc are the mapped apps to open the documents...

Not sure about the "Are the drives mapped in winecfg? "

Run winecfg with the drives mounted, and go to the Drives tab. Are all the drives mapped to a drive letter? If not, click Autodetect; that should map whatever's mounted.

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:04 pm

[/quote]Have you configured Nautilus (the Gnome equivalent of Windows Explorer)
to run Word in Wine when you click the document icon?

Right click on the document, select 'Open with Other Application' and
use 'Use a Custom Command' and write the command needed to start Word in
the box, e.g. something like

wine "C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\word.exe"

Nautilus will append the file name when it starts Word. Disclaimer: I've
tested this using OpenOffice, not Word because I don't have Word
installed.

Martin[/quote]
Hi Martin
I'll give that a go tomorrow.

You should look at 2007 or the new 2010... Mind you, the true value comes from an integrated UC installation, but they are far more powerful and advanced than anything else at present. I hate to say. I'd love to get fully away from Windows apps

Martin Gregorie · Post by **Martin Gregorie** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:41 pm

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 14:04 -0600, Jonners59 wrote:

You should look at [MS Office] 2007 or the new 2010...

No I shouldn't! Open Office suits me fine. So far I haven't found
anything I need it to do that it won't.

Martin

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:37 pm

Oh, I have no allegiances. I love trying all the different offerings. There are lots of funky tools and capabilities in the MS Office 07 and 10, sadly WINE can't work them.

James McKenzie · Post by **James McKenzie** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:24 pm

Jonners59 wrote:

Oh, I have no allegiances. I love trying all the different offerings. There are lots of funky tools and capabilities in the MS Office 07 and 10, sadly WINE can't work them.

Wine can install Office 2007. However, some of us decided a long time
ago that the folks in Redmond would not get anymore money from us and
running prirated software is not good for our financial health (here in
the United States it can and has cost USD 50K per license violation).
Office 2010 will have a restrictive EULA that will be enforceable in the
United States and the EU, since there are alternatives to their product.

James McKenzie

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:44 pm

No that did not work. Now nothing is working. I get an error "IOPL not enabled" and "DDE failure" if I click a doc and the "IOPL" message if I click an icon, like WORD or Powerpoint.

I'm going to un-install and reinstall WINE

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:21 pm

That's not going to do much, just remove the wineprefix (/home/username/.wine directory) to start afresh instead.

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:59 am

DaVince wrote:That's not going to do much, just remove the wineprefix (/home/username/.wine directory) to start afresh instead.

Sorry, not technical enough and concerned I may make things worse....

Arte you saying, go to the directory .wine and just delete it?
Or do something within the directory?

If there is a command line to put in terminal, please advise.

Jonners59 · Post by **Jonners59** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:06 am

James McKenzie wrote:Jonners59 wrote:
Oh, I have no allegiances. I love trying all the different offerings. There are lots of funky tools and capabilities in the MS Office 07 and 10, sadly WINE can't work them.

Wine can install Office 2007. However, some of us decided a long time
ago that the folks in Redmond would not get anymore money from us and
running prirated software is not good for our financial health (here in
the United States it can and has cost USD 50K per license violation).
Office 2010 will have a restrictive EULA that will be enforceable in the
United States and the EU, since there are alternatives to their product.

James McKenzie

If there was a reason to dislike the MS folks, this is it. What goes around comes around. As a fairly non techie, but demanding user, I would say that these communities are the best way to counter, but they have to do two things. Make things easier for the average user to install, setup and run. And secondly, not underestimate the competition. The new 2007 and 2010 Office suites are awesome in comparison to alternatives.

Anyway you have my vote.

oiaohm · Post by **oiaohm** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:04 am

jonners59. So the alternatives are not good in your eyes.

I am sorry to say the quality of the alternatives like openoffice.org is directly linked to the size of there community. People need to stop complaining about the quality of openoffice.org and the like and work on building them better.

MS products are particularly hard to run in wine and keep fully updated.

Wine is really never intended to be a full replacement to using native Linux programs. It should be accepted that integration problems are going to happen.

Posix path to Windows path does not all the time solve out how applications will expect. It should be expected at times to have application perform right having to run application first then using the applications own open function.

Its a bug that there is no cure to. Its the different between platforms.

Some programs fail linked threw because they cannot query windows explorer for more information. PS MS Office with some replacement shells for windows don't work either.

Just because you use it a lot and MS made it does not mean some of it actions are not broken even by windows design.

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:54 pm

Jonners59 wrote:
DaVince wrote:That's not going to do much, just remove the wineprefix (/home/username/.wine directory) to start afresh instead.
Sorry, not technical enough and concerned I may make things worse....

Arte you saying, go to the directory .wine and just delete it?
Or do something within the directory?

If there is a command line to put in terminal, please advise.

Yes, delete the directory. This works, too:
rm -rf ~/.wine

jennyshred · Post by **jennyshred** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:07 pm

There should be an error on your file system. You should try to check your file manager and set it to its default.