What the last version WINE is support PowerPC processor?

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:30 pm

I found only old version Darwine for PPC and want to try to compile it myself.

Thunderbird · Post by **Thunderbird** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:34 pm

Perhaps you misunderstand the 'PowerPC' support we have. Wine can be used to run x86 Windows programs on Linux/OSX/... but for this it requires an x86 CPU. Further Wine can be used to port programs (if you have the source code) to Linux/OSX/... and this is not x86 specific. The porting part is called 'Winelib' and this is what we support for PowerPC and is what Darwine used to package before but it can't run x86 programs.

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:36 pm

No version "just" supports PowerPC, because Wine Is Not an x86 processor Emulator. I believe that it can be made to work in conjunction with actual x86 emulators out there, but I wouldn't know anything about that.

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:39 pm

I see what 0.9.7 work Ok ... But when I try to add to port 1.1.29 I see error

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:40 pm

Balizk wrote on September 12:

I found only old version Darwine for PPC and want to try to compile it myself.

Please look at the Darwine project at Sourceforge.org. This is a very OLD project and is basically abandonware.

In order to run X86 programs on your PowerPC system you will need to run a CPU emulator, such as K-Qemu and Windows/DOS programs run very slow.

Thunderbird forgot the VERY SLOW part.

James McKenzie

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:47 pm

I installed QEMU. But can not find how I can add WINE to system.
Opendarwin website have broken link for Developer documentation.
I needt to install 1 old program. its lite and 1Gh processor under emulator will work normally for me.
I used before VirtualPC. All Ok.
I installed now Q - and can not work under it.
It will better if my progam will work without Windows system

And I try to find how it posssible.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:28 am

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Bazilisk <[email protected]> wrote:

I found only old version Darwine for PPC and want to try to compile it myself.

Like the later posts said, you can't run x86 programs on PPC without a
CPU emulator.

That said, I try to check wine on PPC every now and then, and it's
gotten better recently...

--
-Austin

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:37 am

austin987 wrote:On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Bazilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
I found only old version Darwine for PPC and want to try to compile it myself.
Like the later posts said, you can't run x86 programs on PPC without a
CPU emulator.

That said, I try to check wine on PPC every now and then, and it's
gotten better recently...

--
-Austin

Better as in, it gives less errors even though an x86 processor is not emulated? Or better as in, it's probably become easier to try and get it to run together with a processor instruction emulator?

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:17 pm

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:37 AM, DaVince <[email protected]> wrote:

austin987 wrote:
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Bazilisk <[email protected]> wrote:

I found only old version Darwine for PPC and want to try to compile it myself.

Like the later posts said, you can't run x86 programs on PPC without a
CPU emulator.

That said, I try to check wine on PPC every now and then, and it's
gotten better recently...

--
-Austin
Better as in, it gives less errors even though an x86 processor is not emulated? Or better as in, it's probably become easier to try and get it to run together with a processor instruction emulator?

Better as in it mostly compiles, and would be useful for making winelib apps.

--
-Austin

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:00 am

I try to install darwinbuild and have error:
#91: error: dsymutil: command not found
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
Reporter: sampresident@… | Owner: wsiegrist@…
Type: defect | Status: new
Priority: major | Component: build failures
Version: 10A432 | Keywords:
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
Hello,
I try to install DarwinBuild from Macports
I use sudo port install darwinbuild
But I have error:
---> Building darwinbuild
Error: Target org.macports.build returned: shell command " cd
"/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_devel_darwinbuild/work/trunk"
&& /usr/bin/make -j1 all PREFIX=/opt/local " returned error 2
Command output: ./DBDataStore.o ./DBPlugin.o ./DBTclPlugin.o
./cfutils.o ./main.o
dsymutil --out ./darwinxref.dSYM ./darwinxref || true
/bin/sh: line 1: dsymutil: command not found

I use 10.4.11 Mac Os
How can I fix this error?

doh123 · Post by **doh123** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:41 am

Darwin and Darwine are not the same thing...

if your trying to get Darwine running on a PPC Mac, just give it up, the little it ever worked was puny and ran barely anything, its a lost cause and hasn't even been worked on in years.

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:15 am

What the lite way to install Wine on PowerPC?
I use it: http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/QemuWork
But when I try to install darwinbuild I have error, what I have not dsymutil ....

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:04 pm

As stated before, Darwin is not Darwine. The programs have nothing to do with eachother.

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:23 am

But what abourt this solution:
http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/QemuWork
?

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:59 am

Bazilisk wrote:But what abourt this solution:
http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/QemuWork
?

That page seems to be very old and outdated; it has links to opendarwin.org, which shut down in 2006.

Javier Serrano Polo · Post by **Javier Serrano Polo** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:28 am

A bit late, but I'll try to summarize the requirements for the fastest
solution I know about x86 binaries and powerpc:

* Linux; other systems need to be ported.
* Qemu version able to use some powerpc libraries (pthreads,
x11...).
* x86 libraries.
* A couple of fixes/tweaks to wine (stable version, 1.0.1).
* If you want to compile, an x86 compiler.

Is it fast? Acceptable for some people, it depends on the program.
Is it stable? Same as above.
Could it be faster? Sure, the bitmap rendering can be improved.
Could it be a lot faster? Hmm, it depends on the ability to use the
powerpc winelib, how much internal data is exposed, etc.

Should you try it? If you don't have access to an already deployed
repository (you probably don't), then you shouldn't. Manual deployment's
very time-consuming.

Javier Serrano Polo · Post by **Javier Serrano Polo** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:01 pm

A bit late, but I'll try to summarize the requirements for the fastest
solution I know about x86 binaries and powerpc:

* Linux; other systems need to be ported.
* Qemu version able to use some powerpc libraries (pthreads,
x11...).
* x86 libraries.
* A couple of fixes/tweaks to wine (stable version, 1.0.1).
* If you want to compile, an x86 compiler.

Is it fast? Acceptable for some people, it depends on the program.
Is it stable? Same as above.
Could it be faster? Sure, the bitmap rendering can be improved.
Could it be a lot faster? Hmm, it depends on the ability to use the
powerpc winelib, how much internal data is exposed, etc.

Should you try it? If you don't have access to an already deployed
repository (you probably don't), then you shouldn't. It's very
time-consuming.

Bazilisk · Post by **Bazilisk** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:06 am

Please give me advice whare I can find answers to this errors:

alexey:~/distrib alexeyvasiliev$ export VERSION=1.0.1
alexey:~/distrib alexeyvasiliev$ sudo ./create_darwine_distrib.sh $VERSION ~/Desktop/wine-1.0.1
# Packaging Darwine for version 1.0.1 using Wine sources in /Users/alexey/Desktop/wine-1.0.1...
# Building Wine in /Users/alexey/Desktop/wine-1.0.1 (warning: takes a long time)...
{standard input}:114:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:115:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:116:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:117:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:118:Parameter syntax error (parameter 2)
{standard input}:119:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:120:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:121:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:122:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:123:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:125:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:126:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:127:Parameter syntax error (parameter 2)
make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [wine] Error 2
make: *** [libs] Error 2
***** Error: Can't build wine

James McKenzie · Post by **James McKenzie** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:53 pm

Bazilisk wrote:

Please give me advice whare I can find answers to this errors:

alexey:~/distrib alexeyvasiliev$ export VERSION=1.0.1
alexey:~/distrib alexeyvasiliev$ sudo ./create_darwine_distrib.sh $VERSION ~/Desktop/wine-1.0.1
# Packaging Darwine for version 1.0.1 using Wine sources in /Users/alexey/Desktop/wine-1.0.1...
# Building Wine in /Users/alexey/Desktop/wine-1.0.1 (warning: takes a long time)...
{standard input}:114:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:115:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:116:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:117:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:118:Parameter syntax error (parameter 2)
{standard input}:119:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:120:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:121:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:122:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:123:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:125:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:126:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
{standard input}:127:Parameter syntax error (parameter 2)
make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [wine] Error 2
make: *** [libs] Error 2
***** Error: Can't build wine

Did you look in the build.log file to see what was happening when this
error occurred?

James McKenzie