GE centricity viewer??

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:50 am

I picked up some data from the nearest hospital to take to the
specialist at the next one, with whom I had an appt.; it came on a CD,
which is marked "DICOM Volume with GE Centricity Viewer."

When I put the CD into a drive, Fedora 11 auto-mounts it, and
fails to find the autorun.exe, which is right there in plain sight. (F11
knows it exists, and asks whether to run it, and then fails. This is
currently normal for most M$-intended media.)

So I open the file, find autorun.exe myself, and right-click on
it. The first option I get is to open it with Wine, as expected. When I
accept that, I get a huge popup, which I can't seem to copy, saying only
that it needs "scripting support" and urging me, obscenely enough, to get
M$'s so-called browser 5.0 or higher. (I take all mention of that
abominable browser as an obscenity.)

I thought that browser, or a cleaner clone of it, of level at
least 7, was an integral part of Wine.

Worst of all, I could swear I've brought home similar media
before, and viewed them, or the parts I wanted, with earlier releases of
wine under earlier releases of Fedora ...
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Snake450 · Post by **Snake450** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:58 am

The Scripting Support is a IE warning telling you enable Active Contents on IE but wine doesn't come with IE you need to install it yourself (or so I believe I never have IE). You can install it by using winetricks I don't know what version can be downloaded, I know IE6 can cause I installed it an hour ago but yeah you need to do it yourself.

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:13 pm

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:58:23 -0500, Snake450 wrote:

The Scripting Support is a IE warning telling you enable Active Contents
on IE but wine doesn't come with IE you need to install it yourself (or
so I believe I never have IE). You can install it by using winetricks I
don't know what version can be downloaded, I know IE6 can cause I
installed it an hour ago but yeah you need to do it yourself.

Well, I downloaded something by that name from http://
wiki.winehq.org/winetricks. But "sh winetricks" gets "no such file"; and
"sh winetricks.txt" just sits there.

What obvious clue am I missing??
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Post by **dimesio** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:15 pm

Beartooth wrote: Well, I downloaded something by that name from http://
wiki.winehq.org/winetricks. But "sh winetricks" gets "no such file"; and
"sh winetricks.txt" just sits there.

How did you download it, where did you download it to, and did you actually rename it with a .txt extension for no rational reason?

I suggest you reread the instructions for downloading and using winetricks and follow them exactly. http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks

Snake450 · Post by **Snake450** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:45 pm

I don't know you added that .txt it should not be there... go to http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks, open your terminal and type the command in. Winetricks will be in your home folder (/home/username/) now don't touch it in anyway, in your terminal type sh winetricks ie6 you'll get an output of something downloading once it finishes it will automatically ask you if you want to install just click yes and let it finish then you're done.

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:05 pm

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:49:33 +0000, Beartooth wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:49:33 +0000, I Beartooth wrote:

I picked up some data from the nearest hospital to take to the
specialist at the next one, with whom I had an appt.; it came on a CD,
which is marked "DICOM Volume with GE Centricity Viewer."

When I put the CD into a drive, Fedora 11 auto-mounts it, and
fails to find the autorun.exe, which is right there in plain sight. (F11
knows it exists, and asks whether to run it, and then fails. This is
currently normal for most M$-intended media.)

After lots of valuable help under the list, I think this one is
almost licked.

I got a license to agree to, and a warning about using the
software for primary diagnosis, and suchlike good stuff. It ended up with
a very small error popup, saying "idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

After I tell that OK, it does show me something called Centricity
DICOM Viewer, which I'll certainly experiment with. Is this "idsError" a
Wine question??
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vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:02 pm

Beartooth wrote:It ended up with a very small error popup, saying "idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

What does it say in the terminal?

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:52 am

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:02:29 -0500, vitamin wrote:

Beartooth wrote:
It ended up with a very small error popup, saying
"idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."
What does it say in the terminal?

What terminal?? I launch by clicking on the CD to display its
contents, then on autorun.exe; if there's a CLI way to launch it, that's
news to me.
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vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:59 pm

Beartooth wrote:What terminal??

http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:59 am

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:59:28 -0500, vitamin wrote:

Beartooth wrote:
What terminal??
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log

Catch 22.

If anything, this answer is more cryptic, not less, that the one
that failed so badly before it. Maybe it means something to you, but if I
knew what you do about such things, I wouldn't be here.

All I see on that page is a couple days' worth of tedious
reading, none of which has any discernible relevance to what I'm trying
to ask: How to make wine-1.1.23-1.fc11.i586 read the blasted Centricity
CD, and specifically what to do about that cryptic
"idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

Even googling is less unhelpful (though not much).

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Post by **dimesio** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:11 am

Beartooth wrote:On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:59:28 -0500, vitamin wrote:

Beartooth wrote:
What terminal??
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log
Catch 22.

If anything, this answer is more cryptic, not less, that the one
that failed so badly before it. Maybe it means something to you, but if I
knew what you do about such things, I wouldn't be here.

All I see on that page is a couple days' worth of tedious
reading, none of which has any discernible relevance to what I'm trying
to ask: How to make wine-1.1.23-1.fc11.i586 read the blasted Centricity
CD, and specifically what to do about that cryptic
"idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

Even googling is less unhelpful (though not much).

The link was to instructions for running your app from the command line so you can post the terminal output. If you're not willing to do that, there's nothing more anyone here can do to help you. We're not psychic.

L. Rahyen · Post by **L. Rahyen** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:14 am

On 2009-08-12 (August, Wednesday) 14:58:17 Beartooth wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:59:28 -0500, vitamin wrote:
Beartooth wrote:
What terminal??
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log
Catch 22.

If anything, this answer is more cryptic, not less, that the one
that failed so badly before it. Maybe it means something to you, but if I
knew what you do about such things, I wouldn't be here.

All I see on that page is a couple days' worth of tedious
reading, none of which has any discernible relevance to what I'm trying
to ask: How to make wine-1.1.23-1.fc11.i586 read the blasted Centricity
CD, and specifically what to do about that cryptic
"idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

Without terminal log it is unlikely that anybody will able to help you because
terminal log from Wine often contains some clues about what might be wrong. So
please provide this log. I quote FAQ for your convenience:

6. Troubleshooting
6.1. How can I get a debugging log?
Run your application from the command (see How should I start Windows programs
from the command line?)
You can then copy the log from the screen and paste it into a file if it's
short.
To save a log to a file, redirect the output of wine to a file using Unix shell
redirection, e.g.
$ cd ".wine/drive_c/Games/Tron"
$ wine tron.exe > log.txt 2>&1

John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:14 am

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Beartooth<[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:59:28 -0500, vitamin wrote:

Beartooth wrote:
What terminal??
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log
Catch 22.

If anything, this answer is more cryptic, not less, that the one
that failed so badly before it. Maybe it means something to you, but if I
knew what you do about such things, I wouldn't be here.

All I see on that page is a couple days' worth of tedious
reading, none of which has any discernible relevance to what I'm trying
to ask: How to make wine-1.1.23-1.fc11.i586 read the blasted Centricity
CD, and specifically what to do about that cryptic
"idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

Did you try running that application in gnome-terminal?

Also what are trying to accomplish here. I mean if all you want to do is
view your dicom files. There are many free programs that can do that. I am
actually developing a dicom viewer in Qt that works 100% fine under wine.
Eventually I will get it back working under linux directly but some third
party libraries have a windows dependency. These are not needed for the
viewer however the application is more than a viewer and I do not have time
to trim out the extra functionality at the moment..

John
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John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:19 am

Without terminal log it is unlikely that anybody will able to help
you because
terminal log from Wine often contains some clues about what might be wrong.
So
please provide this log. I quote FAQ for your convenience:

6. Troubleshooting
6.1. How can I get a debugging log?
Run your application from the command (see How should I start Windows
programs
from the command line?)
You can then copy the log from the screen and paste it into a file if it's
short.
To save a log to a file, redirect the output of wine to a file using Unix
shell
redirection, e.g.
$ cd ".wine/drive_c/Games/Tron"
$ wine tron.exe > log.txt 2>&1

I think one problem with these instructions is some users do not have a clue
what a terminal is and the instructions are not very clear on that. I know
there is a FAQ entry about this but it is not linked topic 6.1

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Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:42 am

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:18:13 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

Without terminal log it is unlikely that anybody will able to
help
you because
terminal log from Wine often contains some clues about what might be
wrong. So
please provide this log. [...]

I think one problem with these instructions is some users do not have a
clue what a terminal is [....]

No, that's not the problem. I use several terminals all the time.

Also I did read the part about getting the log. But, try as I
might, I could not construct the necessary command toget the log of --
and the section referred to was no help.

I have tried these :

[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ pwd
/media/CDH
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ autorun.exe
bash: autorun.exe: command not found
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ /media/CDH/autorun.exe
bash: /media/CDH/autorun.exe: Permission denied
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ /media/CDH/autorun.exe
bash: /media/CDH/autorun.exe: Permission denied
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ cd
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ /media/CDH/autorun.exe
bash: /media/CDH/autorun.exe: Permission denied
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$

I have also poked around for a couple hours with Nautilus in many
of the files in my .wine, trying to find anything that even seems to have
anything to do with CDH -- until I begin to doubt it's there at all.

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John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:47 am

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Beartooth<[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:18:13 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

Without terminal log it is unlikely that anybody will able to
help
you because
terminal log from Wine often contains some clues about what might be
wrong. So
please provide this log. [...]

I think one problem with these instructions is some users do not have a
clue what a terminal is [....]
No, that's not the problem. I use several terminals all the time.

Also I did read the part about getting the log. But, try as I
might, I could not construct the necessary command toget the log of --
and the section referred to was no help.

I have tried these :

[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ pwd
/media/CDH
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ autorun.exe
bash: autorun.exe: command not found
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ /media/CDH/autorun.exe
bash: /media/CDH/autorun.exe: Permission denied
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ /media/CDH/autorun.exe
bash: /media/CDH/autorun.exe: Permission denied
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ cd
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ /media/CDH/autorun.exe
bash: /media/CDH/autorun.exe: Permission denied
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$

I have also poked around for a couple hours with Nautilus in many
of the files in my .wine, trying to find anything that even seems to have
anything to do with CDH -- until I begin to doubt it's there at all.

How about

wine autorun.exe

Also you probably do not want to run autorun but the application
listed in the .ini file that autorun loads and executes.

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Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:58 am

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:46:45 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Beartooth<[email protected]>
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:18:13 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

[....]

... I could not construct the necessary command to get the log of --
and the section referred to was no help.

[....]

How about

wine autorun.exe

Well, I certainly never thought of that -- nor likely would have;
I *thought* there had to be something obvious to all but me ...

So I did try it. But :

[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine autorun.exe
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\autorun.exe": Module not
found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$

Also you probably do not want to run autorun but the application listed
in the .ini file that autorun loads and executes.

hmmm... I tried to display rather than run autorun, hoping to
spot that file. Most apps just failed. Vim (which I've never used, nor
vi) opened it, but displayed reams of what to me was gibberish. I skimmed
the gibberish, but did not spot a .ini. Is there another way to find it?
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Beartooth Comcast · Post by **Beartooth Comcast** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:10 pm

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, John Drescher wrote:

... How to make wine-1.1.23-1.fc11.i586 read the blasted
Centricity
CD, and specifically what to do about that cryptic
"idsErrorDicomdirNotSupported."

Did you try running that application in gnome-terminal?

You mean like one of these?

[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ centricity
bash: centricity: command not found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine centricity
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\centricity.exe":
Module not found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ dicomdir
bash: dicomdir: command not found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine dicomdir
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\dicomdir.exe": Module
not found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ dicom
bash: dicom: command not found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine dicom
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\dicom.exe": Module not
found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$

Also what are trying to accomplish here. I mean if all you want to do is
view your dicom files. There are many free programs that can do that. I am
actually developing a dicom viewer in Qt that works 100% fine
under wine.

I've put off replying to this one, because so much of it is
beyond my horizon. I don't know Qt from a spotted toad, and have no
idea how to search for such viewers; given a name or a generic term,
I'd google that and the word "download," or if need be both plus
"fedora." Is there such a term? Or one viewer in particular that you
approve? You seem to be saying that yours won't run on my box ...

There must be umpteen bazillion apps out there named "____
viewer"

Eventually I will get it back working under linux directly but
some third
party libraries have a windows dependency. These are not needed
for the
viewer however the application is more than a viewer and I do not have time
to trim out the extra functionality at the moment..

Dunno if more specifics will help, but here they are. On the
15th I had what was diagnosed as a "temporary ischemic attack"
(TIA), known colloquially as a mini-stroke. These commonly prefigure
a real stroke -- a massive one, that kills or totally disables the
patient -- by one or two days. The emergency room sent me to the
ultra-high-tech cardiac ward for a little over two days, and during
that time also subjected me to various scans.

All those are on the CD I have; another (a CT scan with dye,
at another hospital), which I don't (yet) have, seems to have
refined and in refining contradicted them. Something else was most
likely mimicking a mini-stroke; the question is what, and what to do
about it.

My purpose is to get a look at the scans, so that I can
better understand what a plethora of doctors are telling me -- and
at least make my own guess whether I need get my affairs in order.
Looking may not help much, I know; I'm no medical. But it can't
hurt.

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John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:28 pm

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Beartooth<[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:46:45 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Beartooth<[email protected]>
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:18:13 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

[....]
... I could not construct the necessary command to get the log of --
and the section referred to was no help.
[....]
How about

wine autorun.exe
Well, I certainly never thought of that -- nor likely would have;
I *thought* there had to be something obvious to all but me ...

So I did try it. But :

[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine autorun.exe
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\autorun.exe": Module not
found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$

Do that from the folder that contains autorun.exe

John

L. Rahyen · Post by **L. Rahyen** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:53 pm

On 2009-08-12 (August, Wednesday) 16:24:30 Beartooth wrote:

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:18:13 -0400, John Drescher wrote:
Without terminal log it is unlikely that anybody will able to
help
you because
terminal log from Wine often contains some clues about what might be
wrong. So
please provide this log. [...]
I think one problem with these instructions is some users do not have a
clue what a terminal is [....]
No, that's not the problem. I use several terminals all the time.
...
I have tried these :

[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ pwd
/media/CDH
[btth@Hbsk2 CDH]$ autorun.exe
bash: autorun.exe: command not found

If you are in "/media/CDH" and this directory contains "autorun.exe" then this
cannot happen:

[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine autorun.exe
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\autorun.exe": Module not found

"Module not found" in this case means you are trying to run non-existing (in
current directory; use pwd to check current directory) file.
1) Use "ls" (without quotes) to make sure that .exe you want to run is really
there. If it is not then you are looking for it in wrong directory. For
example, to make sure that "autorun.exe" is really in /media/CDH/ run: "ls
/media/CDH/" (without quotes).
3) Now, when you determined full path to .exe you want to run you can use
command like this:

wine start /Unix "/media/CDH/autorun.exe"

Post by **dimesio** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:13 pm

Beartooth Comcast wrote: I've put off replying to this one, because so much of it is
beyond my horizon. I don't know Qt from a spotted toad, and have no
idea how to search for such viewers; given a name or a generic term,
I'd google that and the word "download," or if need be both plus
"fedora." Is there such a term? Or one viewer in particular that you
approve? You seem to be saying that yours won't run on my box ...

There must be umpteen bazillion apps out there named "____
viewer"

http://www.google.com/search?q=dicom+linux

GIMP also lists DICOM files amongst the formats it can read.

John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:36 pm

http://www.google.com/search?q=dicom+linux

GIMP also lists DICOM files amongst the formats it can read.

I would suggest that however I am not sure it works well with CT
slices. I believe GIMP loads DICOM one file at a time and CT viewing
typically you have 200 to 500 axial slices that make up a 3D volume.
In my work (Lung CT sometimes breast CT) we generally do not look at
the 3D however we often want to see the images reformatted so that we
can look at the 2D slices in the Sagittal or Coronal planes. If I have
time at home this evening I will try some viewers I know under wine.
ImageJ is also a program that will view the DICOM one slice at a time
in the Axial plane.

John

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:03 am

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:27:48 -0400, John Drescher wrote:

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Beartooth<[email protected]>
wrote:

[...]

[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ wine autorun.exe
wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\autorun.exe": Module not
found
[btth@Hbsk2 ~]$

Do that from the folder that contains autorun.exe

That launches what seems to be a form of IE, which stops with the
same error about support; meanwhile, the terminal tab I launched it from
gets more messages than it can hold. (Scrolling back up as far as
possible does not reach back to the prompt.) Most of them seem to start
with "fixme" or "err."

For what should I look through the messages I can see?
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John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:15 am

Do that from the folder that contains autorun.exe
That launches what seems to be a form of IE, which stops with the
same error about support; meanwhile, the terminal tab I launched it from
gets more messages than it can hold. (Scrolling back up as far as
possible does not reach back to the prompt.) Most of them seem to start
with "fixme" or "err."

Can you collect this terminal output (fixme err ...) in a file and
post this file on a website or pastebin and link here. With this file
someone can possibly help.

John

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:40 am

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:14:19 -0400, John Drescher wrote:
[....]

Can you collect this terminal output (fixme err ...) in a file and post
this file on a website or pastebin and link here. With this file someone
can possibly help.

Hmmm .... I can probably find or figure out a way to collect it
-- but I don't have a web site. Is there one available for such purposes?
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