Mint 21 wipes out wine 7.0. Is it impossible to reinstall?

[RonSMeyer]

The upgrade to Mint 21 (based on Ubuntu 22.04) wiped out wine-stable 7.0.
Following the instructions on the download page I am trying to reinstall it. But all I get is:

winehq-stable dependency for wine-stable, Fix Broken Packages. When I go to Synaptic Edit, "Fix Broken Packages", all I get is a popup that says Error, Fix Broken Packages. Huh? Yeah, isn't that what this function is supposed to do?

At some point, I was able to get to a place when I did "sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-stable", it responded with "winehq-stable not found".

I did manage to install the development branch BUT my app does not run right on 7.18. I need 7.0.

Is it just impossible to install wine stable 7.0 on Mint 21 / Ubuntu 22.04?

[jkfloris]

As you have noticed, there is no winehq-stable package for Ubuntu 22.04 (yet). You can try installing Wine 7.0 from Ubuntu Kinetic, but this is entirely at your own risk.

I did manage to install the development branch BUT my app does not run right on 7.18. I need 7.0.

This is a problem. If this regression is not known to the developers, then the bug will persist.
You can try is to install an older version of winehq-devel (the oldest available version is 7.6) and see if the program works. If it does, install a newer version and check the program again. Until you find the version in which the program no longer works. Then you can make a regression bug report.

[RonSMeyer]

Well...I'm running Mint 21 which is based on Ubuntu 22.04, so Ubuntu Kinetic is really not possible.

I did file a regression report #53380 in July when I first started having problems with the app. It was Mint 20.3 (focal) at the time.
That's when I reverted to stable version 7.0.

They asked me to "run a regression test" which I tried to do. But I cannot even install the app. The install screen is unresponsive to the mouse and the graphics are messed up. It works fine though with 7.0.

Never having done a "regression test" before, I asked for advice on how to proceed, but did not receive an answer.

[jkfloris]

I have tried the ThumbsPlus program and it seems to work with Wine 7.18 in a 32-bit wineprefix set to Windows 10 and wintricks -q jet40

All the required steps (after installing Winehq-devel):

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# Install and update winetricks
sudo apt install winetricks
sudo winetricks --self-update

# Create a clean 32-bit prefix, install jet40 and set the prefix to Win 10
WINEPREFIX="${HOME}/Thumbsplus" WINEARCH=win32 winetricks -q jet40 win10

# Install ThumbsPlus
# (Adjust the path if the file is not stored in "Downloads")
WINEPREFIX="${HOME}/Thumbsplus" wine "${HOME}/Downloads/thmpls10sp2.exe"

# Run ThumbsPlus
cd "WINEPREFIX=${HOME}/Thumbsplus/drive_c/Program Files/ThumbsPlus 10/Bin"
WINEPREFIX="${HOME}/Thumbsplus" wine Thumbs10.exe

[RonSMeyer]

Ok..well, reinstalled with 7.18 it and it mostly works. The help function does not work but I can live with it I guess. At least they fixed the controls being completely unresponsive to the mouse. Then there's those ugly flat windows...

I have used this program since the old Windows 3.1 version of it. I use GIMP for real photo editting. But for simple stuff and for organizing, managing and viewing, there is really nothing else like Thumbsplus. I am very happy it works in wine.

[jkfloris]

The (ugly) flat screens are due to the new theme Wine uses by default.
You can disable it in winecfg → Desktop Integration → Theme → No Theme

If you installed ThumbsPlus in a separate prefix, start winecfg like this:

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WINEPREFIX="${HOME}/Thumbsplus" wine winecfg

I have no real solution for the missing Help feature. You can make a bug report. Until the bug is fixed, you can open the Help file with xchm.

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sudo apt install xchm

You find the Thumbs10.chm Help file in the drive_c/Program Files/ThumbsPlus 10/Help

[RonSMeyer]

Thank you for help. I have worked through the issues and have the program working successfully.

I was unaware of the "theme" option, thanks for pointing that out.

The help problem had to with a .dll that it wanted in system32, "itss.dll". Somehow it got renamed to "itss.dll.bak" by, I guess, one of the other modules Thumbsplus needs. I install "corefonts, mdac28 (for the database), and ie8 (needed for the help function to interpret html). Once I renamed it back to "itss.dll", the help function began working. I have no clue what this .dll does.

I did revert to 7.6 and I'm just going to leave it that way for now.

I appreciate that you took time to help me. I learned a lot.

[RobertX]

RonSMeyer:

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deflate0

was the one that wiped out mines, but I am still running 20.3.