NVIDIA OR ATI

Clemens Eisserer · Post by **Clemens Eisserer** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:13 am

Hi,

Come to think of it, John is the ONLY developer working on games for
Linux.

No, he isn't. At least Epic is there too.
With the rising of OSX the chance is not too small that OpenGL will survive,
and that drivers (at least from companies with unified-driver code)
will be higher quality than they are now.

The rest decided it was not financially worth it a LONG time ago
and are sticking with Windows and a few are actually now developing for
the Mac platform. See, you have to recoup those costs and they are very
high.

The problem are most of the time unexperienced developers as well as
not-portable frameworks used.
Those frameworks have been used ofter the past years.

If you choose the right technologies at project start, portability
comes for free.

lg Clemens

[email protected] · Post by **[email protected]** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:25 am

It seems the Core of Discussion is not about Graphics, but about politics.

The Question the OP has to answer before himself is, if greater performance is more worth than Openness.
Most ppl. would say yes, and thus encouraging Companies like Nvidia to continue in their doings...

So the Question gets transformed to "Do i value openness of the OS higher than some framerates or featuresets" (Btw. Games and drivers for linux is sort of a vicious circle. Both ones do not get better by the lack of the other.)

In my case, i do. Thats why i "only" own a litte centrino-Notebook with intel-graphics. And i never have to worry about breaking drivers with new kernels or X-versions

For me, no Game on earth is worth selling my soul.

greetings,
me

p.s. pls. do not take anything of this as an affront... its just my personal opinion.

"Clemens Eisserer" <[email protected]> schrieb am 21.10.2008 11:13:
Hi,

Come to think of it, John is the ONLY developer working on games for
Linux.

No, he isn't. At least Epic is there too.
With the rising of OSX the chance is not too small that OpenGL will survive,
and that drivers (at least from companies with unified-driver code)
will be higher quality than they are now.

The rest decided it was not financially worth it a LONG time ago
and are sticking with Windows and a few are actually now developing for
the Mac platform. See, you have to recoup those costs and they are very
high.

The problem are most of the time unexperienced developers as well as
not-portable frameworks used.
Those frameworks have been used ofter the past years.

If you choose the right technologies at project start, portability
comes for free.

lg Clemens

tparker · Post by **tparker** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:22 am

jeffz wrote:

I've had a 8800 for the past 18 months and I've never had a problem with it over many driver revisions. It's definitely many times superior to the 6xxx series.

That's good to know, thanks! We have some different machines now than
when we last tried it, I'll dig it out and give it another try. Our
machines at the time were very similar to each other in hardware and may
have all been having the same problem with it.

Tricia

walt · Post by **walt** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:52 am

vitamin wrote:

...
If you mean graphics card, then the only viable solution for
Linux is nVidia. ATi(AMD) has crappy broken drivers...

Are there no opensource drivers for ATI/AMD chipsets? I remember
reading that they were better than nVidia about sharing their
hardware specs. OTOH that was a long time ago before the merger.

felix · Post by **felix** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:27 am

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:50:40PM -0500, Austin English wrote:

I worded it poorly, but essentially, if you're worried about which
video card to use with Wine, you're more than likely interested in
games. In which case, performance is more important than principle.

I personally have an Nvidia FX 5200, but no plans to upgrade, as the
only game I play is Morrowind, which works fine. If I were to upgrade,
I probably would choose ATI, to support their endeavor, not because
their performance would sway me.

Of course, it's the OP's choice, but keep in mind, the person who
wants to run Office with Wine probably isn't worried about their video
card...

Of course you could also hope that the nouveau project makes significant
progress in the next 6 months.

http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/

I personnally think they've done wonders so far, and with a little luck
decent 3D support should be along relatively soon [1]

[1] for a given definition of soon

--
Darragh

"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."

Zoltan Boszormenyi · Post by **Zoltan Boszormenyi** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:30 am

mrxgerman írta:

It's better to have an nvidia or an ati graphiccark.

Indeed.