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PolarProTrainer

Post by finnipinni »

Program for heartrate registration devices and training programs made by www.Polar.fi
Only to be used in Windows.

But . . .
The program delivered on the Polar product CD is outdated.
Wine 1.0 in Ubuntu8.04 is able to open it
But . . .
The buildt in updatedevice over the internet do not funksjon.
All I get is red cross over a logo appearing a short time on the bottom line.

The Wine 1.1.1 may get it working ?
But . . .
I'm not able to install it due to lack of knowledge.
http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
Clicking the link : Clicking this link does not open any download, but I have somehow managed to download it and unpacked it.
But . . .
The Wine installer does not work either - not for me it dosen't.

So - this is no biznizz for novices like me ?

Or du YOU - only by looking, know whar I've done wrong ?
Please tell me ?
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Post by finnipinni »

I got som help and Wine 1.1.1 is now installed.
But the updateservice is not working. I don't know if it is a Wine problem or someting else. The updater is made by Geert van Horrik Software www.gvhsoftware.org but this version is 0.8.1.2
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Post by finnipinni »

Wine 1.1.2 did some changes.
When I try to update, an animated logo appear working infinite time.
I also discovered that the buildt in links to www.polar.fi in help menu do not work.
I hope some of you got some ideas.......
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Post by finnipinni »

1.1.3 did nothing for this problem. Still hoping for some help. Ther must be an number of Polar users out there ?
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Post by vitamin »

finnipinni wrote:1.1.3 did nothing for this problem. Still hoping for some help. Ther must be an number of Polar users out there ?
Please run it from the terminal (don't forget to 'cd' into program's directory) and post output here.
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Post by finnipinni »

I do not understand ubuntu and need more detials so it can make some sence in my world.
Please giv ?
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Post by jorl17 »

Finnipinni, you should read some of those 10-minutes of UNIX faqs :-)


Open a terminal (Acessories) in Ubuntu.

use the cd command to change the current directory you are on (You are probably at your home dir, something like user@yourpc:~ where ~ means home dir).

So, type in:

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cd path_to_your_application
if it is installed on the default wine program dir you should do something like:

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cd ~
cd .wine
cd "Program Files"
cd application_directory
Or something like that, where ~ means home dir, in case you changed dir to another place. Program Files can differ with language (correct me if wrong).

Be aware that if there is a space in the middle of the name you must replace that space with '\ ' (dash with a space) or just put the whole dir under quotes, like I did with Program Files.

After this, you are now ready to run your application. If you don't know the executable name you can do:

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ls | grep .exe
(That is the list command (ls) to list the current files in your directory which will be 'filtered' by the grep program so that only the files (and folders) that have .exe are shown. If you find this confusing you can just type ls or dir (also t list files or folders) and look for exe extension files)

If you are sure the executable file you found is the one you need you can run the application with wine, to do it type:

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wine your_application.exe
OR, if there is only one executable and you don't want to type it in just do:

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wine $(ls | grep .exe)
This will pass the output from grep as argument to wine

(sorry for so much info, but I think this will help you with the terminal)

Also, you probably will learn about super-users, sudo and su -. NEVER run wine as root, so NEVER sudo wine or su - ; wine.
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Post by pr100 »

This software itself runs for me (although there are rendering problems with the background image unless the wine option "emulate a virtual desktop" is enabled). However I can't get the data transfer via the little irda gizmo to work.

Is it possible for this to work under wine? Or is the necessary support for irda not available?
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Post by vitamin »

pr100 wrote:This software itself runs for me (although there are rendering problems with the background image unless the wine option "emulate a virtual desktop" is enabled). However I can't get the data transfer via the little irda gizmo to work.

Is it possible for this to work under wine? Or is the necessary support for irda not available?
If it appears to the system as standard serial port - then you can configure Wine to work with it.
You'll need to do something like:

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ln -s /dev/ttyS0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
Where /dev/ttyS0 is your IRDA device's serial port. Also make sure you ca read/write to it.
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Post by finnipinni »

Very nice to get some help !
I am not able just now, but will be able soon.
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Post by finnipinni »

hi vitamin.
I now understand your suggestion is how to install, but.....
I use UBUNTU 8.04 latest update and Wine 1.1.6 is installed.
And so is the Polar ProTrainer 5 SW - from CD. (PTT 5)
PTT 5 is working - so and so. It contains a calender and the picture-rendering i overlaping, but this is a minor concirn.

My problem is that the buildt in uptateSW do not work, and there is alot of necesery updates since the CD-version.
Minor is that none of the links are working - i.e. www.polar.fi is not working when launced from the program.
May be the hole issue is that it is separated from the internett ???

The treiningSW gets data by IRDA. A numberfile is transfered from the wristwatch to the SW.
This is not working, and it is totally useless without it.

I'm still hoping for a solution, and I have very limited knowledge in datamatters.
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Post by finnipinni »

Now I'm using the Ubuntu 8.10 and Wine 1.1.17.
And does not work.
Is there need for other programs installed to support the built in update system in PPT ?
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Post by vitamin »

finnipinni wrote:Now I'm using the Ubuntu 8.10 and Wine 1.1.17.
And does not work.
Open bug in bugzilla. Specify exactly what does not work.
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Post by finnipinni »

I'm now using the Ubuntu 9.10 and Wine 136.
The calender rendeering is now showing fine, and the program is working.
I entered all the data that should come form the IRDA transmission directly into the personal folder, and transfered som programfiles from Polarversion 164.

Polar has updated to version 165.
The IRDA is still not working, and has been reported loong time ago.
Links to polarsites and update is still not working.
Therefore it is still not possible to run PolarProTrainer5 in Wine.
James Mckenzie

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Post by James Mckenzie »

I'm now using the Ubuntu 9.10 and Wine 136.
The calender rendeering is now showing fine, and the program is working.
I entered all the data that should come form the IRDA transmission directly into the personal folder, and transfered som programfiles from Polarversion 164.

Polar has updated to version 165.
Ok. Is this downloadable from Polar.com?
The IRDA is still not working, and has been reported loong time ago.
Can you map the IRDA device to a com port in Wine?
Links to polarsites and update is still not working.
In other words, you cannot update Polar Trainer from within Wine, correct?
Therefore it is still not possible to run PolarProTrainer5 in Wine.
First thing is that the IRDA interface needs to be functional as a serial device or this will NOT work in Wine. If the device requires a 'special' driver then it will not work in Wine, possibly never. However, when I used an IBM Thinkpad and it had an IRDA device, I was able to map it to a Com port (5) and use it to transfer files to/from another Thinkpad. This was a LONG time ago. I don't think that my Mac has that capability but I can check.

I am under the impression on my Mac I have to buy a USB <-> IRDA adaptor in order to use this function. For my Polar CS200CAD I have to use a microphone and be in a very quiet area. Linux is NOT supported for this type of Cyclometer, but I've read reports where folks have made it work in Wine.

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Post by finnipinni »

Hi James.
Tanks for reply.
It's been a hvile - I have no knowledge of this and lost interest in the matter.
Now using Ubuntu 10.04 and allways latest Wine, but does not work.
For others :
Problem 1.
IRDA protocoll must be working. First install in Ubuntu, so in Wine - I've heard ?
The miniCD PolarIRDA (SigmaTel) contains Linux drivers, but I do not know howto.....
On Mac it has to be on BootCamp i belive ?

Problem 2.
Polar PPT5 contains an updaterprogram accessable from "help-button".
Also some url-links are, but none are working.
I belive InternetExplorer are necessary to access the internet ?
James McKenzie

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Post by James McKenzie »

finnipinni wrote:
Hi James.
Tanks for reply.
It's been a hvile - I have no knowledge of this and lost interest in the matter.
Now using Ubuntu 10.04 and allways latest Wine, but does not work.
For others :
Problem 1.
IRDA protocoll must be working. First install in Ubuntu, so in Wine - I've heard ?
The miniCD PolarIRDA (SigmaTel) contains Linux drivers, but I do not know howto.....
On Mac it has to be on BootCamp i belive ?
Boot Camp allows you to install and boot up Windows. I'll have to check
to see if IRDA is supported on Macs (I don't think so, but there is this
little thing called a remote...)
Problem 2.
Polar PPT5 contains an updaterprogram accessable from "help-button".
Also some url-links are, but none are working.
I belive InternetExplorer are necessary to access the internet ?


Internet Explorer for the Mac development was stopped at version 5.2.
There is Safari/Firefox/Opera support for the web on Native MacOSX. For
Wine there is IE6/7/8 and Gecko (the Mozilla engine). Of course you can
install Firefox/Opera for Windows as well.

Since I have two Polar CS200's here, it might be good for me to figure
out how to get them working as well.

James McKenzie
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Post by James McKenzie »

James McKenzie wrote:
finnipinni wrote:
Hi James.
Tanks for reply.
It's been a hvile - I have no knowledge of this and lost interest in
the matter.
Now using Ubuntu 10.04 and allways latest Wine, but does not work.
For others :
Problem 1.
IRDA protocoll must be working. First install in Ubuntu, so in Wine -
I've heard ?
The miniCD PolarIRDA (SigmaTel) contains Linux drivers, but I do not
know howto.....
On Mac it has to be on BootCamp i belive ?
Boot Camp allows you to install and boot up Windows. I'll have to
check to see if IRDA is supported on Macs (I don't think so, but there
is this little thing called a remote...)
Never mind on the IRda thing. It is on the front of my MacBookPro
(pounds head on steel desk...)

I don't know if Wine can see it or not. Maybe one of the other folks
who works with Macs can answer this question.

James McKenzie
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