3DsMax 9 issues.

[X-Seti]

Hello, I would like to brainstorm an issue that has not be solved for about a year.

Why am I here.

Well I have been asked by many others to try and get any version of 3DsMax working on wine, I have picked Max 9 32bit.

However the current release version from Autodesk is 3DsMax 2012

I currently use Ubuntu 10.10 and Wine version 1.3.37 and will stick with this release as I dislike unity.

I have also posted on the Wine Thread on ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... st11661461

Moving on from what I said on that board, I get some wine bugs - for those interested in the console output look here - http://pastebin.com/qLmqcxbD

Onwards and upwards -

Other needed stuff like msxml3 and cc580

I already have dotnet20 installed with d3dx9_26, d3dx9_39, devenum, dinput, dinput8, dsound, dxdiag, msscript, riched20


I know some of this looks overkill but I also copied the Fonts from the Windows XP's folder into the wine's windows Fonts folder as I have noticed a lot of other apps depend on these being there.

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k@devbox12:~/.wine/drive_c/3dsmax9Trial$ winetricks msxml3 cc580

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Executing w_do_call msxml3
Executing load_msxml3
Using native override for following DLLs: msxml3
Executing winetricks_early_wine regedit C:\windows\Temp\_msxml3\override-dll.reg
Executing wine msiexec /i msxml3.msi
fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented.
fixme:msvcr90:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x60613064) stub
err:richedit:ReadStyleSheet skipping optional destination
fixme:msi:ControlEvent_SpawnWaitDialog Doing Nothing
fixme:msvcr90:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x60613064) stub
fixme:msvcr90:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xcad5c8) stub
Executing w_do_call comctl32
comctl32 already installed, skipping
You opted in, so reporting 'msxml3 ' to the winetricks maintainer so he knows which winetricks verbs get used and which don't.  Use --optout to disable future reports.

Ok now the main Setup.exe and directx 9c stuff next

Edit ----

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err:richedit:ReadStyleSheet skipping optional destination

This will scroll continuously in the terminal when DirectX9c is being installed, My best guess was to wait this out - 7 mins later I get to the next window.

The Autodesk 32bit Trial Installer...

Read and Accept the agreement - Press Next and wait.

Edit ----

Name and Standalone - Press Next and wait for the window to change as at it goes dark for 4 mins.

Next window untick the following.

Help files.
Additional Maps.
Architectural Materials

Then press Next, Next and Next again..

Installer looked like it was doing well but now I feel like a Muppet, I am looking into these 2 errors

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err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"StartServices" returned 1627
err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"ExecuteAction" returned 1627
fixme:msvcr90:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x60613064) stub
err:rpc:I_RpcGetBuffer no binding
err:rpc:I_RpcGetBuffer no binding
fixme:msvcr90:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x7a38d5c8) stub

Read more - Click http://pastebin.com/z7ASJ2Sx

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I am wondering what next to try? and what I can do about some of the services not registering?

[jjmckenzie]

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM, X-Seti <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello, I would like to brainstorm an issue that has not be solved for about a year.

Why am I here.

Well I have been asked by many others to try and get any version of 3DsMax working on wine, I have picked Max 9
32bit.

However the current release version from Autodesk is 3DsMax 2012

I currently use Ubuntu 10.10 and Wine version 1.3.37 and will stick with this release as I dislike unity.

Ok now the main Setup.exe and directx 9c stuff next

Are you trying to install DirectX9 on your system? This should NOT be
necessary...

James

[dimesio]

I currently use Ubuntu 10.10 and Wine version 1.3.37

The current version of Wine is 1.4-rc2. Upgrade and retest on a clean wineprefix. Delete the vc80 and vc90 "deadbeef" manifests from ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/manifests, but don't install any winetricks. Post terminal output.

[X-Seti]

Yep true and I skipped that part of the install.

The problem is with the main 3dsmax9 installer as it errors out almost towards the end.

I can not paste the 3dsmaxerror.log as it is way to long nor can I seem to pastebin it.

I uploaded it here; http://www.ukscifi.net/3dsmax/3dsmax9_win32_Install.log

[X-Seti]

I currently use Ubuntu 10.10 and Wine version 1.3.37

The current version of Wine is 1.4-rc2. Upgrade and retest on a clean wineprefix. Delete the vc80 and vc90 "deadbeef" manifests from ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/manifests, but don't install any winetricks. Post terminal output.

Ok, lets try that.

[X-Seti]

Sorry for the delay;

@Dimesio
I followed what you said and I've been waiting for the installer to end.

Running everything from the terminal, Ie wine setup.exe

It has frozen.. I've left the PC for 2 hours expecting an error when I return.

Picture shows all there is to know

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/hangs.png/

[dimesio]

Sorry for the delay;

@Dimesio
I followed what you said and I've been waiting for the installer to end.

Running everything from the terminal, Ie wine setup.exe

It has frozen.. I've left the PC for 2 hours expecting an error when I return.

Picture shows all there is to know

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/hangs.png/

I need to see Wine's terminal output, not the app's install log, and not in a screenshot. You can kill the installer as soon as it hangs.

[X-Seti]

Sorry for the delay;

@Dimesio
I followed what you said and I've been waiting for the installer to end.

Running everything from the terminal, Ie wine setup.exe

It has frozen.. I've left the PC for 2 hours expecting an error when I return.

Picture shows all there is to know

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/hangs.png/

I need to see Wine's terminal output, not the app's install log, and not in a screenshot. You can kill the installer as soon as it hangs.

Here is the terminal log; http://pastebin.com/jXuPnwmM

I am slowly looking into these errors starting with;

but PNG support is not compiled in?

[dimesio]

Here is the terminal log; http://pastebin.com/jXuPnwmM

I am slowly looking into these errors starting with;

but PNG support is not compiled in?

Is this a distro package or did you build Wine yourself? If the former, you should report this to the package maintainer. Either way, you need to build Wine with PNG support (and any other dependencies ./configure complains about).

[X-Seti]

I had decided to purge any install of wine as I was thinking there must have been traces of the old wine deb install from the repos.

Old version thats is in the ubuntu repos is 1.3.37?

Version I was prompted to try was Wine 1.4-rc2 that could only be installed manually.

I do build the package myself with the needed dependences from the created install_wine_deps.sh from the http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages.

Terminal Log.
http://pastebin.com/KvGgaCjH

3dsMax logs
http://www.ukscifi.net/3dsmax/

[dimesio]

I do build the package myself with the needed dependences from the created install_wine_deps.sh from the http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages.

Obviously you missed PNG support, and possibly other things. What does ./configure say?

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7.root@devbox12:/home/k/wine-1.4-rc2# ./wine /home/k/3dsmax9Trial/Installs/3dsmax/setup.exe 

Never run Wine as root. Delete the wineprefix you created as root and start over as a normal user.

[X-Seti]

I do build the package myself with the needed dependences from the created install_wine_deps.sh from the http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages.

Obviously you missed PNG support, and possibly other things. What does ./configure say?

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7.root@devbox12:/home/k/wine-1.4-rc2# ./wine /home/k/3dsmax9Trial/Installs/3dsmax/setup.exe 

Never run Wine as root. Delete the wineprefix you created as root and start over as a normal user.

Aahh umm yeah , I have been telling others not to use root but I have been doing this myself, I guess I am trying everything I know to get Max working other then using a VM.

Now the ./configure file. http://pastebin.com/uuqSSRiQ

I have been installing stuff where it required but as it seems not well enough.

Update again once at think i've covered anything else.

[X-Seti]

I got the installer to work to the point where it failed to load the license service.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\Service\AdskScSrv.exe"

This must be installed as a running service before 3dsmax.exe is run.

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Value: C:\windows\system32;C:\windows;C:\windows\system32\wbem;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\
Action 1073741825
Action ended 21:55:00: WriteEnvironmentStrings. Return value 0.
Action 21:55:00: RegisterFonts. Registering fonts...
Action start 21:55:00: RegisterFonts.
Action ended 21:55:00: RegisterFonts. Return value 0.
Action 21:55:00: InstallODBC. Installing ODBC components...
Action start 21:55:00: InstallODBC.
Action ended 21:55:00: InstallODBC. Return value 0.
Action 21:55:00: RegisterTypeLibraries. Registering type libraries...
Action start 21:55:00: RegisterTypeLibraries.
Action ended 21:55:00: RegisterTypeLibraries. Return value 0.
Action 21:55:00: SelfRegModules. Registering modules...
Action start 21:55:00: SelfRegModules.
Action ended 21:55:00: SelfRegModules. Return value 0.
Action start 21:55:00: RegisterComPlus.
Action ended 21:55:00: RegisterComPlus. Return value 0.
Action 21:55:00: InstallServices. Installing new services...
Action start 21:55:00: InstallServices.
Action ended 21:55:00: InstallServices. Return value 0.
Action 21:55:00: StartServices. Starting services...
Action start 21:55:00: StartServices.
Service: mental ray 3.5 Satellite (32-bit)
Action ended 21:55:01: StartServices. Return value 1627.
Action ended 21:55:01: ExecuteAction. Return value 1627.

I have done as much as I can to get this far..

[dimesio]

I got the installer to work to the point where it failed to load the license service.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\Service\AdskScSrv.exe"

Create a 32 bit wineprefix with WINEARCH=win32 and install to that.

[X-Seti]

I got the installer to work to the point where it failed to load the license service.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\Service\AdskScSrv.exe"

Create a 32 bit wineprefix with WINEARCH=win32 and install to that.

Ahh it is the 32bit winprefix, and it is the 32bit version of max9.

I was researching what other files are called into action on win7.

Show up as services in task manager like the Autodesk Licensing Utility. AdskScSrv.exe

Checking the files on wine, I should have typed it other then just cutting and pasting the path, but when I noticed that myself way after I posted. There is no edit button?.

"C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\Service\AdskScSrv.exe" this still stands.

Now I am interested in trying this on my 64bit Ubuntu with the max version counter part but I do not think there is a wine process emulator in 64bit???.

[dimesio]

Now I am interested in trying this on my 64bit Ubuntu with the max version counter part but I do not think there is a wine process emulator in 64bit???.

I'm not sure what you mean. 64 bit Wine exists, but I don't think Ubuntu packages it.

[X-Seti]

I'm not sure what you mean. 64 bit Wine exists

64bit version aside, I find it hard to give up on something to the point where at time I do not know when to stop..

However tiresome reading 127 pages from Google researches who have either got Max7, Max8 and Max9 working or not working and even the application resources on winehq.org show Studio max hardly working at best.

I am looking at all the exe files within the 3dsmax package as well, and most of these do run.

The one I am trying to work out is.. AdskScSrv.exe

k@devbox12:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/Autodesk Shared/Service$ wine AdskScSrv.exe -h
X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 10 (X_UnmapWindow)
Resource id in failed request: 0xaa00001
Serial number of failed request: 43
Current serial number in output stream: 43
k@devbox12:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/Autodesk Shared/Service$ wine AdskScSrv.exe
err:ntdll:RtlDeleteResource Deleting active MRSW lock (0x1124e4), expect failure
k@devbox12:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/Autodesk Shared/Service$

I do have a motive for getting 3dsmax working besides ditching windows and helping others but more so I could use max to continue on in my own modding projects..

[DanKegel]

Anyone know where to get the trial of that version of 3dsmax?

[L. Rahyen]

Anyone know where to get the trial of that version of 3dsmax?

Autodesk offers trial of 2012 version only, unfortunately. So it is
impossible to get trial of 2009 version from trustworthy official source.

[X-Seti]

Anyone know where to get the trial of that version of 3dsmax?

I have the trial versions, Max 9, 2011, 2011, 2012

I can upload them to a private space.

[X-Seti]

I had been looking into other ways to get 3dsMax9 working, however unless someone like me has the files without a side of trojans, I will put closure on this.

3dsmax 2012 the way things are with wine incompatibility this seems very unlikely also as I get 3 times the bugs trying to get anywhere near the app installing never mind running.