updated wine will not run programs

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labud
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updated wine will not run programs

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openSuse 12.3 kde 4.4
Wine installed and updated using the openSuse Build Service -Wine CVS Builds repository
Updates are done thru Zypper.
I run two programs thru Wine - 1]WinMX 3.54b4 2]WinAmp 2.95
When I did updates thru Zypper today it updated my Wine to ver. 1.7.10-308.1-x86_64.
After the updates, these two programs stopped working. I went to the FAQ's on the wine site and looked into Troubleshooting [How can I get a debugging log (a.k.a. terminal output)?] and followed directions. A log.txt file was created, but all it said was "Could not find winmx.exe"

Not knowing what else to try, I uninstalled Wine 1.7.10-308.1-x86_64 and installed Wine 1.5.23-1.1.1-x86_64. Both programs are working under the 1.5.23-1.1.1-x86_64 version.

Not sure where to go from here. I would like to run current version of Wine. 1st time I have had this problem.
Suggestions, please? Thank You
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Re: updated wine will not run programs

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This would be a regression (something that use to work but no longer does). The developers need good bug reports to fix it.

A minimal way to help is to get the terminal output from a recent wine version and attach it to a bug report. To do so requires opening a terminal, changing to the windows directory (something like ".wine/drive_c/Program Files/directory") and start the program with "wine <program name>". The output is what is needed.

A better and more useful report is to find the developer and the change that broke the working program. To find out requires two things; (1) building the program from source and (2) doing a regression test. See the wiki for more information. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ
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dimesio
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Re: updated wine will not run programs

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Before running a regression test I would first try reinstalling the apps to clean wineprefixes under current Wine. Wineprefixes should survive upgrades, but sometimes don't, particularly if the jump in version is great and/or native dlls are used.

FYI, I downloaded WinMX and installed it in 1.7.11. It starts up without problem and I was able to add a folder to it. I didn't test connecting.
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Re: updated wine will not run programs

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I uninstalled all concerning Wine. [Winmx, Winamp and Wine 1.5, incl. the .wine folder in my /home folder].
I reinstalled Wine 1.7.10 and then reinstalled Winmx and Winamp.
It all seems to be working OK now and Wine has been updated to 1.7.11 with no problems to my programs.
Wineprefixes should survive upgrades, but sometimes don't, particularly if the jump in version is great and/or native dlls are used.
I don't know why it messed up when it updated from 1.5 to 1.7, maybe it had something to do with the OS? [openSUSE 12.3] I did not have any trouble with 1.7.10 when it was UPDATED on another machine using openSUSE 13.1.
I see no one has submitted updated information on the appDB pages re: these two programs.
I would do it , but don't know what is required.
Thank You
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Re: updated wine will not run programs

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labud wrote: I see no one has submitted updated information on the appDB pages re: these two programs.
I would do it , but don't know what is required.
Create an account, log in, click "Add test data" (below the existing tests), fill out the form.
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Re: updated wine will not run programs

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labud it would have been nothing todo with the OS.

There are 2 exact causes.
1) The application. Some applications set setting on install then believe those should never change. As wine adds features sometimes changes do happen. Applications do fail.

2) Too far of jump of Wine versions. 1.5.x should have went to 1.6.x before going to 1.7.x. Normally the damage doing 1.5.x to 1.7.x is not application killing but there are a few registry entries 1.7.x appears to fail to correct. Even taking the middle step the registry is not clean. Adding features to wine has it issues.
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