wine only installed on linux?
wine only installed on linux?
Can wine only be installed on a linux platform or is there a way to download it and run it on windows xp?
Re: wine only installed on linux?
Check out the FAQ: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-530da6f ... e60d3c2c1cjsmith wrote:Can wine only be installed on a linux platform or is there a way to download it and run it on windows xp?
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Michael Reich
wine only installed on linux?
Wine is a program that enables users to run Windows programs on
non-Windows operating systems, including Linux, and Mac OSX. Why would
you want to install it on XP?
On 6/21/08 [email protected] wrote:
non-Windows operating systems, including Linux, and Mac OSX. Why would
you want to install it on XP?
On 6/21/08 [email protected] wrote:
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:58 -0500
From: "jsmith" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Wine] wine only installed on linux?
To: [email protected]
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Can wine only be installed on a linux platform or is there a way to download it and run it on windows xp?
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David Gerard
wine only installed on linux?
2008/6/22 Michael Reich <[email protected]>:
er, I mean, to build a more robust Wine and Cygwin/Mingw. Yeah.
Alternately, look how Microsoft plan to sell Windows 7 piece by piece:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... ption.html
There could be quite a market for Wine on Windows.
- d.
For the sheer hack value!Wine is a program that enables users to run Windows programs on
non-Windows operating systems, including Linux, and Mac OSX. Why would
you want to install it on XP?
er, I mean, to build a more robust Wine and Cygwin/Mingw. Yeah.
Alternately, look how Microsoft plan to sell Windows 7 piece by piece:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... ption.html
There could be quite a market for Wine on Windows.
- d.
That example would be an experience for Windows users!!!
Usually one say that the strength of Window is to be sold with computer so that every user (unregarding their abilities in the field) would use Windows without thinking of what they actually had on the computer.
Now the user would get a barebone O/S, should he wants to use a browser, he will get the message "the Internet module had not been yet installed. Please install the internet module to proceed further". Now they want to watch their holliday picture and get the message "no video software installed -please run the install disk".
At least what a windows user will stop saying about Linux is that Linux is an hassle because of having to install bits and pieces afterwards to get something running (whereby I already heard a comment about my Linux that I had too many packages installed and that's why Windows would be better).
To finish with, my sister threw Vista out of her computer and took XP because somehow the softwares kept getting online to work properly.
I am sure she will like it!!
Usually one say that the strength of Window is to be sold with computer so that every user (unregarding their abilities in the field) would use Windows without thinking of what they actually had on the computer.
Now the user would get a barebone O/S, should he wants to use a browser, he will get the message "the Internet module had not been yet installed. Please install the internet module to proceed further". Now they want to watch their holliday picture and get the message "no video software installed -please run the install disk".
At least what a windows user will stop saying about Linux is that Linux is an hassle because of having to install bits and pieces afterwards to get something running (whereby I already heard a comment about my Linux that I had too many packages installed and that's why Windows would be better).
To finish with, my sister threw Vista out of her computer and took XP because somehow the softwares kept getting online to work properly.
I am sure she will like it!!
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David Gerard
wine only installed on linux?
2008/6/28 Timeout <[email protected]>:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=594247&cid=23930753
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=594247&cid=23972417
"From what I can gather it is like the engineers have been pushed out
and the marketing guys have taken over and their answer for everything
is "how can we get more revenue out of it?". And right now they seem
to be buzzed over the idea of "value added post sale add ons" which
sounds like selling functionality as separate modules instead of
including it in the OS. Now I wouldn't mind for something like,say
adding an MCE interface to an existing OS. But from the way these guys
are talking they are going to make Windows more like a rental than a
purchase to keep the revenue stream high. I personally feel if they go
this route they better get used to patching XP and we better ALL get
used to seeing huge botnets, as those that won't be able to buy XP
will simply get a buddy to pirate it and they'll never update for fear
of WGA."
Vista is the greatest Macintosh marketing tool ever.
This is getting pretty off-topic
But my point is, Wine on Windows
will become a valuable project, and possibly even commercially viable.
The main thing would be to make Cygwin good enough, then tweaks to
Wine itself to play nicer (e.g. make Wine regedit not trash the host
registry).
- d.
See also these two Slashdot comments:That example would be an experience for Windows users!!!
Usually one say that the strength of Window is to be sold with computer so that every user (unregarding their abilities in the field) would use Windows without thinking of what they actually had on the computer.
Now the user would get a barebone O/S, should he wants to use a browser, he will get the message "the Internet module had not been yet install). Please install the internet module to proceed further. Now they want to watch their holliday picture and get the message "no video software installed -please run the install disk".
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=594247&cid=23930753
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=594247&cid=23972417
"From what I can gather it is like the engineers have been pushed out
and the marketing guys have taken over and their answer for everything
is "how can we get more revenue out of it?". And right now they seem
to be buzzed over the idea of "value added post sale add ons" which
sounds like selling functionality as separate modules instead of
including it in the OS. Now I wouldn't mind for something like,say
adding an MCE interface to an existing OS. But from the way these guys
are talking they are going to make Windows more like a rental than a
purchase to keep the revenue stream high. I personally feel if they go
this route they better get used to patching XP and we better ALL get
used to seeing huge botnets, as those that won't be able to buy XP
will simply get a buddy to pirate it and they'll never update for fear
of WGA."
I'm sure Steve Jobs will be laughing all the way to the bank too.I am sure she will like it!! [Laughing]
Vista is the greatest Macintosh marketing tool ever.
This is getting pretty off-topic
But my point is, Wine on Windowswill become a valuable project, and possibly even commercially viable.
The main thing would be to make Cygwin good enough, then tweaks to
Wine itself to play nicer (e.g. make Wine regedit not trash the host
registry).
- d.
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Paul Johnson
wine only installed on linux?
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 05:09 -0500, Timeout wrote:
sense, users wouldn't be knocking Linux because you have to tune it for
your liking. At least you start out with drivers under Linux, nothing
like having to update drivers, then sit through Windows Update hour
after hour on a new install. Changing Wine won't fix this attitude,
smacking idiots upside the skull with a clue-by-four will.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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If your average window user wasn't an absolute bigot in the lowestAt least what a windows user will stop saying about Linux is that
Linux is an hassle because of having to install bits and pieces
afterwards to get something running (whereby I already heard a comment
about my Linux that I had too many packages installed and that's why
Windows would be better).
sense, users wouldn't be knocking Linux because you have to tune it for
your liking. At least you start out with drivers under Linux, nothing
like having to update drivers, then sit through Windows Update hour
after hour on a new install. Changing Wine won't fix this attitude,
smacking idiots upside the skull with a clue-by-four will.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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For what I know a mac would probably not be a solution. It is MUCH too hyped and expensive. She would not even dream of being able to buy such a thing (I could but not her - to me a mac is not an option because for 1000 € I get more memory on a normal PC and what's count to me is CPU + RAM if I don't want to fall asleep with Trados).
If Windows goes into a rental solution, she won't be able to pay a rent just to surf once a while - she will be more likely to keep on XP until the computer dies (the XP she uses is actually not even her own license).
Linux? In my experience if it's not packaged with a computer she is not technically skilled to cope with it - sorry.
It's a nice idea but then you switch it on and:
- The router is not configurated properly or at all
- The screen has the wrong resolution (totally shifted with black range)
- Printer don't work if you didn't think of buying a network printer (I found an information sheet about trying to go around CUPS to use a USB printer but I gave up before it working and WITH a correct driver).
- Your keyboard is not recognized properly, you have to set your manual keyboard manually if you want to write a é on a German keyboard.
That's my experience on installing Linux on a computer that wasn't meant for it.
I however see good chances for Wine if Windows goes on a rental path and it is already installed on the cheap computer segment (like EE PC)
If Windows goes into a rental solution, she won't be able to pay a rent just to surf once a while - she will be more likely to keep on XP until the computer dies (the XP she uses is actually not even her own license).
Linux? In my experience if it's not packaged with a computer she is not technically skilled to cope with it - sorry.
It's a nice idea but then you switch it on and:
- The router is not configurated properly or at all
- The screen has the wrong resolution (totally shifted with black range)
- Printer don't work if you didn't think of buying a network printer (I found an information sheet about trying to go around CUPS to use a USB printer but I gave up before it working and WITH a correct driver).
- Your keyboard is not recognized properly, you have to set your manual keyboard manually if you want to write a é on a German keyboard.
That's my experience on installing Linux on a computer that wasn't meant for it.
I however see good chances for Wine if Windows goes on a rental path and it is already installed on the cheap computer segment (like EE PC)
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Paul Johnson
wine only installed on linux?
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 00:01 -0500, Timeout wrote:
may revoke your license to use Windows any time, for any reason, without
notice. They also recently change the EULA with XP SP2 (or was it SP1?)
that allows Microsoft arbitrary read/write/delete access to all files on
any Windows machine without notice. Nothing like being subject to
invasive search inside your own home, eh?
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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It already is a rental situation. Take a look at the EULA. MicrosoftIf Windows goes into a rental solution, she won't be able to pay a
rent just to surf once a while - she will be more likely to keep on XP
until the computer dies (the XP she uses is actually not even her own
license).
may revoke your license to use Windows any time, for any reason, without
notice. They also recently change the EULA with XP SP2 (or was it SP1?)
that allows Microsoft arbitrary read/write/delete access to all files on
any Windows machine without notice. Nothing like being subject to
invasive search inside your own home, eh?
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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Re: wine only installed on linux?
This is one of the reasons that I went to Linux. I have set my firewall to block everything I don't want 100% (no automatic update), and I have the stand from 2004 where this was not in place / automatic updates turned off. I don't even let Java make an update.Paul Johnson wrote:
It already is a rental situation. Take a look at the EULA. Microsoft
may revoke your license to use Windows any time, for any reason, without
notice. They also recently change the EULA with XP SP2 (or was it SP1?)
that allows Microsoft arbitrary read/write/delete access to all files on
any Windows machine without notice. Nothing like being subject to
invasive search inside your own home, eh?
Of course this is not a solution and I am aware of it
I know there is a bookeeping software for Austria that is working platinum in Wine according the developer and the AppDB so that I can change the software for the change of the year, I need Trados (for all files formats - most of them Windows proprietary that I come across) and an OCR scanner and I am pretty optimistic that I can get rid of Windows with the change of the bookeeping software. Everything else had already been more or less replaced.
Big brother watching is not my concern and most people are not reading the EULA, but as a business, it could be catastrophic if Windows decides for me to delete a file - after all files are the basis of my work and with no file - no work and no money and if I keep loosing the files of a certain format, I would loose the client too.
