Cannot start Amnesia nor Penumbra via Steam

[Chiitoo]

Greetings!

First of all, I would like to say thank you to everyone who are spending their time into making Wine what it is, and better!
I would offer my help if I had the ability to actually do something, but I have yet much to learn, but in the future, perchance...


Anyways! A few days ago, I thought I would play some Penumbra: Overture. I have played it before, so I was a bit surprised as it would not start. All that happens is, a black screen will appear momentarily (or the screen will go black depending if the fullscreen is set to true or false in the configuration file), then just nothing!

So I tried some other games and noticed that Amnesia: The Dark Descent does not launch either.

Neither of the games are spitting anything of interest into terminal. While The Dark Descent throws a list of graphics-chips as usual, and then just dies, Overture says the same as I think the other Penumbra games do.

This leads to perhaps the most interesting aspect of the issue, which is the fact that Penumbra: Black Plague and Penumbra: Requiem both start just fine, both of which I have not played before, and yes, I have tried clean installs of wine, steam, and the game(s)...

I couldn't find any problems with WINEDEBUG=opengl and other channels that I tried, and thought I would post about this here, before going in more deeper, to see if there is anyone around with some knowledge about this already.


I am using Gentoo Linux, and regarding drivers and wine versions, here is some info on what I have tried. I can not remember specifically which combination of everything I was using when everything did work, but I did get some hints from my logs, such as it would seem I was using xorg-server version 1.10.4 around that time, which I cannot try by normal means now as it is no longer available in Portage. The versions that are available are 1.9.5-r1 and 1.10.4-r1 as well as the keyworded 1.11.1-r1 which I am currently running due to this testing.

Another 'bigger' thing that has changed during this time and which I have not (yet) tried to roll-back is the Kernel version change from 2.6.39-r3 to 3.0.6 not long ago.

As for nvidia-drivers, I have tried several versions ranging from 275.21 to 290.03 and Wine versions from 1.2.3 to 9999 and many, many versions in-between.


I'm really running out of ideas as to what to try. I even tried starting the games with WINEDEBUG=relay, and it made no difference and I couldn't notice anything notable in the output (I did not however look into it too much yet as it was just a quick test).
So any ideas and/or tips would be most appreciated!

I will list below some of the versions I have tried out just now, in more tidy fashion, as well as the terminal output without any debugging channels enabled.

The issue is likely caused something very simple that I just can't quite get through to...yet.
Thank you for reading!

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System uname: Linux-3.0.6-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Phenom-tm-_II_X6_1090T_Processor-with-gentoo-2.0.3

gentoo-sources-3.0.6

gcc-4.5.3-r1

xorg-server-1.10.4-r1
xorg-server-1.11.1-r1

nvidia-drivers-275.21
nvidia-drivers-285.05.09
nvidia-drivers-290.03

wine-1.2.3
wine-1.3.14
wine-1.3.24
wine-1.3.29
wine-1.3.30
wine-9999

Penumbra: Overture (not working)

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err:ole:RevokeDragDrop invalid hwnd (nil)
err:ole:RevokeDragDrop invalid hwnd 0x4013e
err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0080: stub!
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000809", 0001: stub!
fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglChoosePixelFormatARB unused pfAttribFList

Penumbra: Requiem (working)

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err:ole:RevokeDragDrop invalid hwnd (nil)
err:ole:RevokeDragDrop invalid hwnd 0x130146
err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0080: stub!
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000809", 0001: stub!
fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglChoosePixelFormatARB unused pfAttribFList

Amnesia: The Dark Descent (not working)

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err:ole:RevokeDragDrop invalid hwnd (nil)
err:ole:RevokeDragDrop invalid hwnd 0x120140
err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.
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geforce xpress
radeon hd
geforce
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fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0080: stub!
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000809", 0001: stub!

[Cloudef]

These games are natively for linux.

[Chiitoo]

That is a very good point, however, I am aware of it and I did not purchase the Linux version(s). Why? Well all the four games were sold very cheap via Steam, and what is more, I learned of the Linux versions after buying them (or around the same time, either way, they were very, very cheap). :]

I might buy the Linux versions in the future, but that is not the point of this thread, at all. ^^

Thank you for the reply.


Also, since editing is disabled, I shall mention here that one other change that can be problematic and occurred recently was the move from libpng 1.4 to 1.5.

[vitamin]

err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.

This is your problem. Do what it says. Steam does not like to crash, and this leads to a crash.

[Chiitoo]

err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.

This is your problem. Do what it says. Steam does not like to crash, and this leads to a crash.

I wish it was.

That's another thing I forgot to mention in the opening post. I actually did get rid of this error by installing Samba, and getting NTLM_AUTH that way. It made no difference though. All the games that would work before, would do so regardless.

To mention what is working, since I obviously forgot to do that as well, here's a few:

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2
Counter Strike: Source
Penumbra: Black Plague
Penumbra: Requiem
Portal
Terraria
Worms Reloaded

I think I do need to look into the NTLM_AUTH some more, as it might perhaps possibly lead to the right tracks as I have never before noticed this error message, and I have never had Samba before...


Thanks for the reply!

[Chiitoo]

The applications now work again, after updating the following packages to version 20120127:

• app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110928
  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110928
  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20110928
  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20110928
  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl-20110928

I think I had tinkered with them before, though, as one of the application's title in the task-bar would state "SDL_app" for the brief moment it ran, but I can't remember exactly which versions were still available from Portage.

Tested with wine-1.3.37 and 1.4.
With 1.4, I also downgraded the emul-linux packages back to the previous version, and the applications would indeed fail to work again.


Thanks again for the suggestions.
Blubb~