Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 Platinum

DarthCthulhu · Post by **DarthCthulhu** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:34 pm

I'm having a bit of trouble running RTC3 Platinum.

It installed just fine, but after starting, I receive a message:

"Your graphics hardware or drivers do not meet the minimum requirements to run this application.

This error has also been sent to Debug.log

OK: <Attempt to continue> Cancel: <Exit>"

After clicking "OK", WINE crashes. I know that my graphics hardware is easily up to the task.

The AppDB says that it should work just fine.

My System:
ATI 4860HD with 1 GB RAM
Ubuntu 11.10
WINE vers. 1.3.28

I'm using the Open Source drivers and have verified they are working correctly (Evil Genius runs great except for a couple small known graphical glitches). As far as I'm aware, only folks who used the proprietary ATI drivers have tried the game, so that may be the reason for the failure. On the off chance that it isn't, I thought I'd ask around.

Thanks for your time.

Post by **dimesio** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:38 pm

DarthCthulhu wrote: I'm using the Open Source drivers and have verified they are working correctly (Evil Genius runs great except for a couple small known graphical glitches). As far as I'm aware, only folks who used the proprietary ATI drivers have tried the game, so that may be the reason for the failure.

Install the proprietary driver.

DarthCthulhu · Post by **DarthCthulhu** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:44 pm

dimesio wrote: Install the proprietary driver.

Maybe I wasn't clear: I don't want to use the proprietary driver, so I want to know if the game works at all with the Open Source driver. If there isn't, well that sucks and I'll suck it up, but I'm not going to install the proprietary driver.

Brandon Wright · Post by **Brandon Wright** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:01 pm

From the testing I did on this game a week ago, I couldn't get it
functioning with the OSS driver.

On 11/25/11 7:44 PM, "DarthCthulhu" <[email protected]> wrote:

dimesio wrote:
Install the proprietary driver.
Maybe I wasn't clear: I don't want to use the proprietary driver, so I
want to know if the game works at all with the Open Source driver. If
there isn't, well that sucks and I'll suck it up, but I'm not going to
install the proprietary driver.

jjmckenzie · Post by **jjmckenzie** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:04 pm

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:44 PM, DarthCthulhu <[email protected]> wrote:

dimesio wrote:
Install the proprietary driver.
Maybe I wasn't clear: I don't want to use the proprietary driver, so I want to know if the game works at all with the Open
Source driver. If there isn't, well that sucks and I'll suck it up, but I'm not going to install the proprietary driver.

The simple answer here is NO. The Noveau drivers for nVidia and
AMD/ATI do not support higher level 3D functions needed to support
Wine.

The complex answer is that these drivers may be able to in the future,
but at the present time they do not have complete code for 3D actions
to support Wine and any program that needs 3D functions.

And because a Video card can support a program under
WindowsXP/Vista/Seven does not mean that corresponding video
functionality exists in Linux, either Open Source or Proprietary.

James

DarthCthulhu · Post by **DarthCthulhu** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:24 am

jjmckenzie wrote:On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:44 PM, DarthCthulhu <[email protected]> wrote:
The simple answer here is NO. The Noveau drivers for nVidia and
AMD/ATI do not support higher level 3D functions needed to support
Wine.
glxinfo reports that the card supports OpenGL 2.1, though I suppose that could be lying; I understand that sometimes driver writers say they support something even when they don't simply because the function is so rarely used that it's not worth having programs fail because it's not fully implemented.

As I said, other much more recent and complex games run well. It struck me as odd that a game as old as RTC3 would not work with more recent ones would.

And because a Video card can support a program under
WindowsXP/Vista/Seven does not mean that corresponding video
functionality exists in Linux, either Open Source or Proprietary.

James

I'm quite aware, thus why I checked glxinfo first to make sure everything was kosher. It was.

Regardless, it seems like the program cannot be run without the proprietary driver. Unfortunate, but oh well.

Thank you for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it.

lahmbi5678 · Post by **lahmbi5678** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:01 pm

http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix
http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

Looking at the sections "3D features", you will see that still some stuff is missing, "mostly", "WIP" or "TODO" isn't good enough. With some games you may be lucky, if you they don't use many effects.