WHY IS WINE SO BROKEN!!?

BkS · Post by **BkS** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:43 pm

Honestly I don't understand it. First Oneiric Ocelot splits Ubuntu users right down the middle, next thing I know WINE is very unstable after the 1.3.30 update. Here's my problem.

I run WINE in Ubuntu Natty Narwhal (11.04). All my apps were running quite happily on version 1.3.28/29 this includes apps:

Photoshop CS5 extended
Live For Speed
Cheat Engine

and various other little mods for LFS.

Now, having installed WINE for the PPA

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ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa

I forgot to lock the version in Synaptic and disable the PPA. So when I ran,

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

Naturally WINE's PPA updated WINE with the latest release. So I purged the PPA, and uninstalled 1.3.30. I then came here to WINEhq to find a .deb file for 1.3.29. I found it, installed it but yet it was labelled as 1.3.30 in the winecfg>about menu. So I uninstalled that, and used the daily ppa.

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ppa:ubuntu-wine/daily

Yet again, WINE was labelled as 1.3.30 when it should've been 1.3.29 and it wasn't 1.3.29 either because my programs weren't stable the their behaviours were different. So now, I'm stuck with 1.3.30 and I've got more issues than an emo.

Wine's cfg won't even let me "test" the sound, so now I have no sound for LFS, Photoshop quits after 1 minute and nothing else wants to start up. SOMEBODY help me either fix the problems, or help me downgrade to 1.3.29. Please.

It's very depressing not having sound, and winecfg crashing after pressing the "test" button. Everything was so stable in 1.3.29.

tparker · Post by **tparker** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:47 pm

Have you ran and posted regression tests or error information for the
various programs so people can see where the problem is to fix? Also, do
you have enough drive space to set up a dual boot and try the programs
you want with wine 1.3.30 is a distro other than Ubuntu? I did not say
that to be rude about your distro choice, use what you want, but many of
the posts with 1.3.30 problems seem to have Ubuntu in common and I am
wondering if there is a way to separate what problems it may be causing
from ones that are part of Wine so that the appropriate people have the
info needed to make fixes.

Post by **dimesio** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:16 pm

BkS wrote: Wine's cfg won't even let me "test" the sound, so now I have no sound for LFS, Photoshop quits after 1 minute and nothing else wants to start up. SOMEBODY help me either fix the problems, or help me downgrade to 1.3.29. Please.

The current version of Wine is 1.3.31. One of the things it does fix is is the crashing-on-start regression that hit a lot of apps in 1.3.30 (that's probably what killed Photoshop for you). As for the sound issue, do you happen to be using the "winepulse" driver? I ask, because your description sounds like http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26271, which was closed as invalid because that driver is unofficial and unsupported.

As for how to straighten out your package manager problem, ask on the Ubuntu forum. It is not a Wine issue.

ahso · Post by **ahso** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:48 am

make sure to install all wine dependencies! There's a webpage for that, follow those instructions!

BkS · Post by **BkS** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:16 pm

The bugs have been reported, regression test? Enlighten me please.

I do not have enough room to install another distro, as my HDD it literally full. I have no idea if wine is using the winepulse driver, like I said everything is at defaults and when I goto test the sound, winecfg crashes and closes.

[quote=dimesio]As for how to straighten out your package manager problem, ask on the Ubuntu forum. It is not a Wine issue.[/quote]

How can you say that it isn't a WINE issue? The 1.3.29 DAILY ppa, labelled as that yet it is 1.3.30? It's not a package manager problem as my package manager is fine, and I've tried everything to install a downgraded version of WINE from here. So yes. It is a WINE issue!!!

tparker · Post by **tparker** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:33 pm

On 10/23/2011 01:16 PM, BkS wrote:

The bugs have been reported, regression test? Enlighten me please.

http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting

I have no idea if wine is using the winepulse driver, like I said everything is at defaults and when I goto test the sound, winecfg crashes and closes.

If you suspect a pulseaudio issue the test for that would be to remove
all of pulseaudio from your OS install, reboot the computer or restart
any running sound systems, and then retry the program through Wine.

How can you say that it isn't a WINE issue? The 1.3.29 DAILY ppa, labelled as that yet it is 1.3.30? It's not a package manager problem as my package manager is fine, and I've tried everything to install a downgraded version of WINE from here. So yes. It is a WINE issue!!!

Packages for the various distributions are handled by volunteers that
are not all necessarily part of the overall Wine dev team. If there is a
problem with a particular distro's package the place to have it fixed is
through whoever makes that package or adds it to the distro's
repositories. your package manager program may be working as it is
supposed to but the package in it for Wine may be broken.