I'd like to voice my concerns about The Sims 2

hibba · Post by **hibba** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:17 pm

Hi all,

I just thought I'd stop in and voice a few thoughts concerns. I really enjoyed playing The Sims 2 and some of its expansion packs in Windows; it was one of my favorite games. I would truly love to see it working playably in WINE (there was a patch/mod that allowed it to start up, as I'm aware, but it wasn't very playable). I understand that it would be a large amount of work, as well as time and effort to make this game work. I don't have any practical programming ability, nor can I offer anywhere needed the amount of money to make it worthwhile to have someone program it for me. I guess what I'm getting at is, I would really appreciate it if maybe someone with the proper abilities could take a look at the bug reports and maybe try to get the ball rolling a little (and by that, all I mean is looking at the bug reports and deciding what would be a good way to fix it, maybe "blueprint" out the strategy and do a little foundation work, so to speak).

Thank you for your time and consideration. It would mean alot to me, and I'm sure other Sims 2 fans would enjoy it as well, to be able to play this game in Wine.

Hibba.

SpawnHappyJake · Post by **SpawnHappyJake** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:36 pm

Hi Hibba!

You could post your debug outputs in Pastebin. That's a start. And give a link to them here. You could check the bug reports, and see if you have one that isn't posted yet, and post it if you have a new one.
You could also update and leave comments in the App DB.

Cheers,
Jake

hibba · Post by **hibba** » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 pm

SpawnHappyJake wrote:Hi Hibba!

You could post your debug outputs in Pastebin. That's a start. And give a link to them here. You could check the bug reports, and see if you have one that isn't posted yet, and post it if you have a new one.
You could also update and leave comments in the App DB.

Cheers,
Jake

Hi, thanks, I think I might try that. Please excuse the newby question, but could you tell me how to make WINE display the debug information? I have to set a environment variable, right?

Thanks,

Hibba.

SpawnHappyJake · Post by **SpawnHappyJake** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:39 pm

Just run through terminal. So that translates to pressing Ctrl + Alt + T to open a terminal (if in Linux), then type "wine" followed by a space. Don't hit enter yet. Open your file browser (let terminal just chill for a while). Navigate to your executable that you are trying to get to work with wine. It will be located in your hidden dot wine folder. So, if in Linux, go to /home/[your user name], and the hidden dot wine folder will be in there. But it's hidden. If using Nautilus as your file browser, hit Ctrl + h to reveal hidden files and folders. You should then see the ".wine" folder (if in Nautilus). Go in there. Then go into drive_c. Then navigate to where the program is installed. Probably in the Program Files folder. Find the file and drag it into terminal after the "wine ". Then give a space after the path to the executable, then a ">" then another space, then a path to where you want the debug kept. You could do "/home/[user name]/Desktop/Sims2_in_WINE_Debug.txt". So it might look like this:
wine /home/hibba/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Sims/sims2.exe > /home/hibba/Desktop/sims2_in_WINE_Debug.txt

If in Mac, you unhide hidden files and folders differently, and the dot wine folder will be in /Users/[user name] .

Alternatively, instead of doing a "> [path to text file]", you could leave that out, and just let it appear in terminal. Then you could select it (in terminal) and copy it with a Shift+Ctrl+C.

How ever you copy it (the other way you would open the text file when it's done, Ctrl+a, Ctrl+C), and paste it (Ctrl+V) into pastebin.

jjmckenzie · Post by **jjmckenzie** » Fri May 27, 2011 9:17 pm

On 5/27/11 5:39 PM, SpawnHappyJake wrote:

Just run through terminal. So that translates to pressing Ctrl + Alt + T to open a terminal (if in Linux), then type "wine" followed by a space. Don't hit enter yet. Open your file browser (let terminal just chill for a while). Navigate to your executable that you are trying to get to work with wine. It will be located in your hidden dot wine folder. So, if in Linux, go to /home/[your user name], and the hidden dot wine folder will be in there. But it's hidden. If using Nautilus as your file browser, hit Ctrl + h to reveal hidden files and folders. You should then see the ".wine" folder (if in Nautilus). Go in there. Then go into drive_c. Then navigate to where the program is installed. Probably in the Program Files folder. Find the file and drag it into terminal after the "wine ". Then give a space after the path to the executable, then a ">" then another space, then a path to where you want the debug kept. You could do "/home/[user name]/Desktop/Sims2_in_WINE_Debug.txt". So it might look like this:
wine /home/hibba/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Sims/sims2.exe> /home/hibba/Desktop/sims2_in_WINE_Debug.txt

If in Mac, you unhide hidden files and folders differently, and the dot wine folder will be in /Users/[user name] .

Alternatively, instead of doing a "> [path to text file]", you could leave that out, and just let it appear in terminal. Then you could select it (in terminal) and copy it with a Shift+Ctrl+C.

How ever you copy it (the other way you would open the text file when it's done, Ctrl+a, Ctrl+C), and paste it (Ctrl+V) into pastebin.

HappyJake:

Thank you for this detailed explanation but we need the error messages
as well so the ">" above should be "&>" (Thank you Vitamin.)

hibba · Post by **hibba** » Fri May 27, 2011 10:37 pm

Thank you both for your help. And thank you for taking the time to write that up about how to get the logs.

Below is my pastebin for running the Sims 2:
http://pastebin.com/FUstp27V

Thanks,

Hibba.

SpawnHappyJake · Post by **SpawnHappyJake** » Sat May 28, 2011 12:00 am

Thanks, James McKenzie, for the syntax correction. It's been an adventure for me to get Internet access today and was a little rushed when I wrote that. I was wondering a little about the syntax to out to a text file. I usually just copy right out of the terminal with a Shift+Ctrl+C. Windows command prompt syntax is a little different than Linux terminal syntax, isn't it?
Glad the text output is posted now.

alexcamron · Post by **alexcamron** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:20 pm

I thought I would be concerned a few ideas to stop vote. I like to play Sims 2 and some, It's expansion pack in Windows, this is my favourite game. I really want to see it work, playable in the wine (this is a patch / Department of Defence to run it because I know of to allow, but not very play. As far as I know there are a lot of work and time and energy to make this game work.

alexcamron · Post by **alexcamron** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:22 pm

I thought I would be concerned a few ideas to stop vote. I like to play Sims 2 and some, It's expansion pack in Windows, this is my favourite game. I really want to see it work, playable in the wine (this is a patch / Department of Defence to run it because I know of to allow, but not very play. As far as I know there are a lot of work and time and energy to make this game work.

hibba · Post by **hibba** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:56 pm

Thought I saw something in the Wine 1.3.23 notes about new Vertex Buffer work; does anyone know if this is related to the problem of TS2 not running (Vertex shaders, I think it was)?

Hibba

hibba · Post by **hibba** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:08 am

Forgive me if I am "necroing" this thread (it didn't seem TOO old). Does anyone have any news on this game?

As I said before, for any devs who may read this, I would really love to see this game work in Linux; anything you can do that would make this game more compatible with WINE would be appreciated.

Thank you all for your time and consideration.

Hibba

tparker · Post by **tparker** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:29 am

On 09/06/2011 03:08 AM, hibba wrote:

Forgive me if I am "necroing" this thread (it didn't seem TOO old). Does anyone have any news on this game?

As I said before, for any devs who may read this, I would really love to see this game work in Linux; anything you can do that would make this game more compatible with WINE would be appreciated.

I have not looked at the appdb for it, are there any notes about playing
in a current wine version (1.3.27 or close)? At one point I think the
SecuRom kept it from working but I think that was removed from the game
at some point. If you have a post-SecuRom disk or legal file and you
have not tried the game in a current wine version it would be worth
doing so and adding the results to the appdb. If nothing else newer
information posts help to show interest in the game and it's issues.

hibba · Post by **hibba** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:52 am

Thanks to both SpawnHappyJake and tparker for the recommendation to update the AppDB. Just did

.

Also, I did find a little news ; it looks like some more work was done recently on vertex shaders in wine in version 1.3.28. I remember reading that something about vertex shaders was part of one of the show-stopping problems in Sims 2.

Hibba