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how 2 download WINE thru windows (no linux modem yet)

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This is pesky; cant get on net yet with brandy new ubuntu, as cannot install modem and no clear directions in ubuntu 10.04

need wine: cannot find how to get: all net pages assume youve got modem up and running ie advising just use "downloader" or "package source"....what about no modem yet in linux? (looking here thru windows)... impossible

Need to download wine for Ubuntu kernel 2.6.32 : in order to make JUNO dialer work and connect to internet. Have not even figured out how to install modem (usb fax) yet, it all revolves around having already made an internet connection. Hence cannot do a thing on net from linux side of laptop.

How to get right WINE version downloaded via windows and saved on external drive????? to somehow manually install into ubuntu and get online??? Without online, all these directions I find are useless.

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Post by jorl17 »

Hi.

You will have to manually get the wine deb file as well as any dependencies that it has. It is not an easy task and you have to download quite some files. I no longer use Ubuntu so I cannot help you track each of the packages down, sorry.

Cheers,

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Sorry for double-posting.

Furthermore, this issue is related to packaging and not to Wine itself.
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Re: how 2 download WINE thru windows (no linux modem yet)

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christmasangel wrote: Need to download wine for Ubuntu kernel 2.6.32 : in order to make JUNO dialer work and connect to internet. Have not even figured out how to install modem (usb fax) yet, it all revolves around having already made an internet connection. Hence cannot do a thing on net from linux side of laptop.
If your intention is to try to install the Windows drivers for your modem in Wine, that won't work. Windows hardware drivers do not work in Wine.

You need to get your modem working in Linux. Ubuntu does have instructions for that in their wiki, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto. For help following the instructions, ask on the Ubuntu forum; it's not a Wine question.
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wine issued on ubuntu disk 10.04

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Hi,
On my new Ubuntu disk repository, it says wine is there. However when you install WINE in ubuntu,"sorry, wine notavailable for amd64".

On your own winehq download pages, links broken as follows:

http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
To install the older, stable Wine 1.2 version, click this link to install the wine1.2 package.
link=apt://wine1.2/
page not found

to download the unstable beta:
link=apt://wine1.3/
page cannot be displayed

???
WineHQ FAQ:
'Does wine work in amd64? Yes.'

How so? Is there another site you mirror your downloads on that the links function correctly?
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wine deb files

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I would think wine deb files are something to be featured on WineHQ own page..

am I mistaken?
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thank you

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Jorl and DeMesio,thank you

We already downloaded via windows, the deb files for the modem in question...

But its the JUNO that is a pain in the tuckus. We tried it in an older version of Suse and finally got online, only to see an error page for Juno stating "your connectivity is limited" ie you cant get past this page. They incredibly "support" Linspire the deceased Linux...derrr. But someone says it shouldnt need to be "supported" at all, and that all normal dialup services should theoretically work with Linux.

Its the forced DIALER in Juno that we want wine to impersonate windows with, to get online with Juno.Not the modem.

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Post by christmasangel »

In Juno it cant be configured without their silly DIALER box. You cant go in to windows normally and reroute it via dialup configuration, and neither in linux. so purpose is to get WINE to impersonate this exe dialer normally used in windows, to get online.
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Re: wine deb files

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christmasangel wrote:I would think wine deb files are something to be featured on WineHQ own page..

am I mistaken?
You are mistaken. Binaries are created by the distros; the links on the Ubuntu download page here get the files from Ubuntu PPA. The links are not broken; however, you cannot use those links to download via Windows, which is what I thought you were trying to do. You can't even use them to download to an rpm-based distro, because the apt: links will only work for distros that use apt to install software (Debian-based distros). To download manually, you have to browse the PPA, and the link for that is at the bottom of the Ubuntu download page.
Its the forced DIALER in Juno that we want wine to impersonate windows with, to get online with Juno.Not the modem.
Let us know if it works.
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does wine indeed support amd64?

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Per the faq stating wine supports amd64,

and per the disk mismatch of ubuntu linux central sent me (10.04),

it appears that wines version is 1.2 but still being called "beta" on my cd.

I manually thru windows downloaded 1.2 Wine (non beta), and it isnt working.

Is there another issue of wine that would work on an amd64 computer?

(I did go thru manually downloading wine 1.2 standard & dependancies, but I'm stuck at a point where wine says several of my lib32/Libc6 etc will break with its required dependancy versions)
versions not installing smoothly:
wine1.2_1.1.42-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
wine1.2-dbg_1.1.42-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb

The only one that was installed smoothly was wine Gecko.

Any clues? (maybe an older or newer version than current 1.2 standard wine?)
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Re: does wine indeed support amd64?

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christmasangel wrote: it appears that wines version is 1.2 but still being called "beta" on my cd.
My guess is that's because you are using an old version of Ubuntu. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-0bae04b ... acb6f367ff
I manually thru windows downloaded 1.2 Wine (non beta), and it isnt working.

Is there another issue of wine that would work on an amd64 computer?

(I did go thru manually downloading wine 1.2 standard & dependancies, but I'm stuck at a point where wine says several of my lib32/Libc6 etc will break with its required dependancy versions)
versions not installing smoothly:
wine1.2_1.1.42-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
wine1.2-dbg_1.1.42-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
That package is a very old version of Wine, and it is no longer supported. You need at least the latest stable release. Ask for help on the Ubuntu forum if you can't figure out which package to download. As for your dependency issues, ask for help with that on the Ubuntu forum, too. These are packaging issues, not Wine issues.

Your other option is to build Wine yourself from source, but to do that you would have to satisfy even more dependencies, and since you are clearly unfamiliar with basic usage of your OS, I wouldn't recommend it.
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Post by Imogen123 »

I have my Pulseaudio works perfectly with the wine (which I can manage my music player, while some wines of the application is running, and no, I have hardware mixing).

I just use alsa-oss (the package name in Ubuntu). Its 32-bit, but I just extracted lib32 in my Intrepid 64-bit Ubuntu install. So when I run my application, I start with: -

AOSS wine executable.exe <any_options>

And I left the OSS in winecfg. Pulse plays much better with ALSA to OSS, and aoss allows the wine to believe that its got full control of the stereo.

An alternative is to use Jack, but the set up to work with Pulse is a headache, but I did too. Without dividends, though, unless you're already running JACK constantly.
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