I am brand new to Wine. Just downloaded it (for OSX) and got it going today. I actually used Winebottler (http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/), but I think my problems are symptoms of Wine itself.
I am using Wine primarily to play my favorite game, Anarchy Online, on my new iMac sans bootcamp. The game installed fine, it loads up and seems to run well, but many of the keys needed for the game activate global commands from OSX instead of in-game commands they should. I am running the game in windowed mode too so the game window is definitely the active one. An example is, when I try to press F10 (or fn+F10) for my in-game settings, OSX's Expose is activated instead. I am not completely sure that this is something I should be addressing here.
My second, and so far more troubling problem is that in Wine's File Manager, I cannot by any means I have discovered so far after hours of searching and experimenting, find out how to simply copy some files from my Mac's HDD to a folder in my Wine directory. I need to place some 3rd party maps and tools for my game into the game's directory, but so far copy/paste/move just does not seem to be happening for me in any way.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Paste in File Manager & keyboard issues
Paste in File Manager & keyboard issues
On 8/18/10 8:42 PM, taokore wrote:
behavior for windowed applications. If you don't like it, you can turn
it off. Open System Preferences, and go to the "Exposé & Spaces"
preference pane and set the hotkeys to '-' (i.e., nothing). If you want
it back, you'll have to remember to open System Preferences again and
reset the hotkeys back to normal.
Eventually, X11 will support changing the display resolution, so games
will be able to go full-screen and this won't be a problem anymore... I
think.
Remember that Wine windows have their own menus, and they don't use the
Menu Bar at the top of the screen at all.
Also, note that if you have F8 mapped to Exposé (or Spaces), you'll have
to turn that off before you can use F8 in applications.
Just so you know, File Manager doesn't work like modern GUI file
browsers. It comes from the old Windows 3.x days, before drag-and-drop
was common on Windows. If you don't feel comfortable using WineFile, try
using the Finder. You can get to Wine's "Drive C" from the Finder by
using the "Go to Folder..." menu item in the "Go" menu (or press
Cmd-Shift-G).
Chip
This isn't really a Wine problem at all. This is actually the correctI am brand new to Wine. Just downloaded it (for OSX) and got it going today. I actually used Winebottler (http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/), but I think my problems are symptoms of Wine itself.
I am using Wine primarily to play my favorite game, Anarchy Online, on my new iMac sans bootcamp. The game installed fine, it loads up and seems to run well, but many of the keys needed for the game activate global commands from OSX instead of in-game commands they should. I am running the game in windowed mode too so the game window is definitely the active one. An example is, when I try to press F10 (or fn+F10) for my in-game settings, OSX's Expose is activated instead. I am not completely sure that this is something I should be addressing here.
behavior for windowed applications. If you don't like it, you can turn
it off. Open System Preferences, and go to the "Exposé & Spaces"
preference pane and set the hotkeys to '-' (i.e., nothing). If you want
it back, you'll have to remember to open System Preferences again and
reset the hotkeys back to normal.
Eventually, X11 will support changing the display resolution, so games
will be able to go full-screen and this won't be a problem anymore... I
think.
File->Copy (or press F8).My second, and so far more troubling problem is that in Wine's File Manager, I cannot by any means I have discovered so far after hours of searching and experimenting, find out how to simply copy some files from my Mac's HDD to a folder in my Wine directory. I need to place some 3rd party maps and tools for my game into the game's directory, but so far copy/paste/move just does not seem to be happening for me in any way.
Remember that Wine windows have their own menus, and they don't use the
Menu Bar at the top of the screen at all.
Also, note that if you have F8 mapped to Exposé (or Spaces), you'll have
to turn that off before you can use F8 in applications.
Just so you know, File Manager doesn't work like modern GUI file
browsers. It comes from the old Windows 3.x days, before drag-and-drop
was common on Windows. If you don't feel comfortable using WineFile, try
using the Finder. You can get to Wine's "Drive C" from the Finder by
using the "Go to Folder..." menu item in the "Go" menu (or press
Cmd-Shift-G).
Chip
Okay the keyboard issue is solved by disabling those global keys (most of which you don't need with the default Mac system keys doing the same thing). I don't know why I didn't think to look at that, but it is an uncommon fix from a PC standpoint, which I am much more accustomed to.
I am aware of the workings of the Mac file menus and that Wine is separate. I am also familiar with Win 3.1 as that was what I had on my first PC many years ago. But I had already tried those suggestions you gave, to no avail. Copy seems to work. But there is no paste option available in Wine's File Manager whatsoever. Not under the file menu, right click context menu, or ctrl+v. I also tried the move option which did not work. And I tried to use the command prompt which did not work either.
I had also navigated to the Wine folder in Finder and my game is installed at 'C:\Games\Funcom\Anarchy Online', however the Games folder does not appear under drive_c in finder at all. I know that it is installed there though because that is where I run it from when I launch it in the File Manager.
Sorry if I got a little aggressive there - I really am grateful for your reply - Thank You!
I am aware of the workings of the Mac file menus and that Wine is separate. I am also familiar with Win 3.1 as that was what I had on my first PC many years ago. But I had already tried those suggestions you gave, to no avail. Copy seems to work. But there is no paste option available in Wine's File Manager whatsoever. Not under the file menu, right click context menu, or ctrl+v. I also tried the move option which did not work. And I tried to use the command prompt which did not work either.
I had also navigated to the Wine folder in Finder and my game is installed at 'C:\Games\Funcom\Anarchy Online', however the Games folder does not appear under drive_c in finder at all. I know that it is installed there though because that is where I run it from when I launch it in the File Manager.
Sorry if I got a little aggressive there - I really am grateful for your reply - Thank You!
I just thought of something that should have been obvious in the first place too. The Wine drive is NTFS. Do those rules still apply in Wine and can I bypass them in traditional ways? I'll be trying Tuxera tonight to see for myself, but I still wonder how Wine works as it's drive isn't technically a mounted drive.
Paste in File Manager & keyboard issues
taokore wrote:
the file permissions.
Use your $HOME directory for where you place files for use with Wine.
Yes, you will have to re-install all of your Windows programs.
BTW, HOW did you get MacOSX to install on an NTFS drive? If you are
using Hackintosh, you be on your own....
James McKenzie
Macs are not good at supporting NTFS from MacOSX and supporting all ofI just thought of something that should have been obvious in the first place too. The Wine drive is NTFS. Do those rules still apply in Wine and can I bypass them in traditional ways? I'll be trying Tuxera tonight to see for myself, but I still wonder how Wine works as it's drive isn't technically a mounted drive.
the file permissions.
Use your $HOME directory for where you place files for use with Wine.
Yes, you will have to re-install all of your Windows programs.
BTW, HOW did you get MacOSX to install on an NTFS drive? If you are
using Hackintosh, you be on your own....
James McKenzie