Getting Alibre Design to work...

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Getting Alibre Design to work...

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I am new to Wine and don't really know my way round it but I thought I might try my CAD software on it, Alibre Design.

It seems to have installed fine but won't start. I have discussed this in another thread already (here: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=9205) but the heading is rather misleading so I thought I might start a new thread with a proper heading.

Any help in getting this running would be appreciated.
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Post by bigseb »

Oh yes, I am running Ubuntu 10.04 x64 and Wine 1.2
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Post by DanKegel »

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... n&iId=7163
makes it sound like this app is unlikely to run in wine.
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Re: Getting Alibre Design to work...

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bigseb wrote: I have discussed this in another thread
And continue on. This thread is closed.
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Re: Getting Alibre Design to work...

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bigseb wrote:I am new to Wine and don't really know my way round it but I thought I might try my CAD software on it, Alibre Design.

It seems to have installed fine but won't start. I have discussed this in another thread already (here: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=9205) but the heading is rather misleading so I thought I might start a new thread with a proper heading.

Any help in getting this running would be appreciated.
You should have repeated the important part from the other thread:
Software requirements for Alibre design:

Internet 6 or later
.Net 2 framework
J# redistributible
Microsoft directx9c or later
Wine has its own implementation of IE6 and directx9, which may or may not work with this app, but you'll definitely have to install .NET and J#. Winetricks has both: dotnet20 and vjrun20. Dotnet20 has to be installed first. Install those, then test the app. If it doesn't work, post terminal output.
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Post by dimesio »

Reopening. Vitamin's and my last post apparently crossed; the thread wasn't locked when I started my last reply.

bigseb, for future reference, Vitamin was right in that you should have stayed with the original thread, because it had important information that someone not reading this thread wouldn't know. But since we're here now, and I've added the missing info, let's keep going with this thread.
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Post by bigseb »

Thanks

Still not sure how to install winetricks for what I need though. How?
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bigseb wrote:Thanks

Still not sure how to install winetricks for what I need though. How?
Follow the instructions here: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
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Post by bigseb »

I don't want to stuff this up so please confirm if this is correct:

Download and install winetricks. Open terminal and type: -$ wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks

Then run winetricks. In terminal type: sh winetricks

Then it will show me the winetricks gui where I choose 'dotnet20'.

Is that correct?
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bigseb wrote:I don't want to stuff this up so please confirm if this is correct:

Download and install winetricks. Open terminal and type: -$ wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks

Then run winetricks. In terminal type: sh winetricks

Then it will show me the winetricks gui where I choose 'dotnet20'.

Is that correct?
Yes. Though since you already know what you want to install with winetricks, you could do it all from the command line:

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sh winetricks dotnet20
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How big approximately is the winetricks download and the dotnet20 download? I only have limited bandwidth left, it would be a waste to get halfway and then have to stop...
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bigseb wrote:How big approximately is the winetricks download and the dotnet20 download? I only have limited bandwidth left, it would be a waste to get halfway and then have to stop...
Winetricks itself is very small. .NET 2.0 is 22.4 MB.
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Post by bigseb »

I have just downloaded and installed both winetricks and dotnet20. And next? Do I have to configure anything. Must I reinstall the software (Alibre, that is)?
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bigseb wrote:
I have just downloaded and installed both winetricks and dotnet20. And next? Do I have to configure anything. Must I reinstall the software (Alibre, that is)?

You can try running the program and see what happens. If it does not
run properly, start with a fresh Wine prefix:

mv $HOME/.wine $HOME/.wine{,.backup}

and then run winetricks again (you should still have the .NET 2.0 file
in the winetricks cache) and then install Alibre.

Run the program from the terminal
(http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal).

If the output before the program stops is more than one screen, you can
capture it to a logging file and then post the file contents to a site
like pastebin.com.

Then post the URL in this forum thread so that someone can go out and
review it and make suggestions on how to fix the resulting problem(s).

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Post by bigseb »

Just for interests sake I tried running Alibre after installing winetricks and dotnet20. Terminal output:

sebastian@sebastian-laptop:~$ cd $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Alibre\ Design/Program
sebastian@sebastian-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Alibre Design/Program$ wine 'Alibre Design.exe'
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Windows.Forms"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Drawing"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"alibre-bridge_Server"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"mscorlib.resources"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"mscorlib.resources"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L""
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"vjslib"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"vjslib"
sebastian@sebastian-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Alibre Design/Program$


James: if I move the wine folder would that amount to uninstalling it ie would I have to reinstall wine?
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Post by dimesio »

You don't have to uninstall Wine to uninstall the app. Delete or rename ~/.wine; a new ~/.wine will automatically be created the next time you run Wine.

Install dotnet20 and vjrun20 with winetricks first, then install the app.
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Post by bigseb »

Again just for interests sake the terminal output when install dotnet20 and vjrun20. Both said 'installation successful' although I read 'failed to parse...' several times. Don't know what it means.
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Post by bigseb »

^^^

Instaling .net 2.0 runtime. Can take several minutes. See http://wiki.winehq.org/MicrosoftDotNet for tips.
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prerequisite gecko already installed, skipping
Setting Windows version to win2k
Executing early_wine regedit c:\winetrickstmp\set-winver.reg
Executing cp -f /home/sebastian/.winetrickscache/dotnet20/l_intl.nls /home/sebastian/.wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/system32/
Executing wine /home/sebastian/.winetrickscache/dotnet20/dotnetfx.exe
fixme:advapi:DecryptFileA "C:\\users\\sebastian\\Temp\\IXP000.TMP\\" 00000000
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fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"sebastian" 0xbe6468 0x7cdfb8 0xbeb1d0 0x7cdfbc 0x7cdfb0 - stub
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fixme:msi:msi_unimplemented_action_stub MsiUnpublishAssemblies -> 2 ignored L"MsiAssembly" table values
fixme:msi:msi_unimplemented_action_stub BindImage -> 8 ignored L"BindImage" table values
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {4e14fba2-2e22-11d1-9964-00c04fbbb345} not registered
err:ole:create_server class {4e14fba2-2e22-11d1-9964-00c04fbbb345} not registered
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err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {4e14fba2-2e22-11d1-9964-00c04fbbb345} could be created for context 0x15
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x33f3c8) using GetSystemInfo()
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} not registered
err:ole:create_server class {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} not registered
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err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} could be created for context 0x17
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} not registered
err:ole:create_server class {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} not registered
fixme:ole:CoGetClassObject CLSCTX_REMOTE_SERVER not supported
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {a9e69610-b80d-11d0-b9b9-00a0c922e750} could be created for context 0x17
fixme:advapi:RegisterEventSourceW ((null),L"ASP.NET 2.0.50727.0"): stub
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fixme:advapi:DeregisterEventSource (0xcafe4242) stub
fixme:loadperf:UnloadPerfCounterTextStringsW (L"u \"ASP.NET_2.0.50727\"", 1): stub
err:rpc:I_RpcGetBuffer no binding
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err:rpc:I_RpcGetBuffer no binding
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.EnterpriseServices"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {ecabb0c8-7f19-11d2-978e-0000f8757e2a} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {ecabb0c8-7f19-11d2-978e-0000f8757e2a} could be created for context 0x1
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6eb22881-8a19-11d0-81b6-00a0c9231c29} not registered
err:ole:create_server class {6eb22881-8a19-11d0-81b6-00a0c9231c29} not registered
fixme:ole:CoGetClassObject CLSCTX_REMOTE_SERVER not supported
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6eb22881-8a19-11d0-81b6-00a0c9231c29} could be created for context 0x15
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"mscorlib.resources"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"mscorlib.resources"
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from apartment threaded to multi-threaded
err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from apartment threaded to multi-threaded
err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
fixme:service:svcctl_ChangeServiceConfig2W SERVICE_CONFIG_FAILURE_ACTIONS not implemented: period 86400 msg (null) cmd (null)
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Drawing.Design"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Drawing"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Windows.Forms"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Configuration"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Xml"
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Configuration"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Xml"
err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from apartment threaded to multi-threaded
err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Drawing.Design"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Drawing"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Windows.Forms"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"Accessibility"
err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from apartment threaded to multi-threaded
err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
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fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Drawing"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Security"
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fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from apartment threaded to multi-threaded
err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
fixme:sync:CreateMemoryResourceNotification (0) stub
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System.Windows.Forms"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"System"
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err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from apartment threaded to multi-threaded
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err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
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err:msi:HANDLE_CustomType34 Unable to execute command L"\"C:\\windows\\Microsoft.NET\\Framework\\netfxsbs20.exe\" /install" with working directory L"C:\\windows\\Microsoft.NET\\Framework\\"
Clearing Windows version back to default
Executing early_wine regedit c:\winetrickstmp\unset-winver.reg
Install of dotnet20 done
prerequisite dotnet20 already installed, skipping
Executing wget -O vjredist.exe -nd -c --read-timeout=300 --retry-connrefused --header Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... redist.exe
--2010-08-12 15:09:48-- http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... redist.exe
Resolving download.microsoft.com... 41.0.2.73, 41.0.2.74
Connecting to download.microsoft.com|41.0.2.73|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3909976 (3.7M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `vjredist.exe'

100%[======================================>] 3,909,976 337K/s in 18s

2010-08-12 15:10:11 (214 KB/s) - `vjredist.exe' saved [3909976/3909976]

Executing wine /home/sebastian/.winetrickscache/vjrun20/vjredist.exe
fixme:advapi:DecryptFileA "C:\\users\\sebastian\\Temp\\IXP000.TMP\\" 00000000
fixme:advapi:LsaOpenPolicy ((null),0x33f354,0x00000001,0x33f37c) stub
fixme:advapi:LsaClose (0xcafe) stub
fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"sebastian" (nil) 0x7cdfe8 (nil) 0x7cdfec 0x7cdfe0 - stub
fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"sebastian" 0x16e900 0x7cdfe8 0x169f30 0x7cdfec 0x7cdfe0 - stub
fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"sebastian" (nil) 0x7cdfb8 (nil) 0x7cdfbc 0x7cdfb0 - stub
fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"sebastian" 0x174fc0 0x7cdfb8 0x174120 0x7cdfbc 0x7cdfb0 - stub
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Install of vjrun20 done
winetricks done.
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Post by bigseb »

Ran the Alibre installer and got this message:

"J# Second Edition is installed on your computer. Alibre Design is only compatible with J# 2.0. Please uninstall J# Second Edition and then re-run your installer. J# 2.0 will install automatically"

Will uninstall now and try again.
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Success!! Well, sort of. It actually starts up now but I need to confirm my license online. This I cannot do as my modem isn't yet configured, nor is there a usable browser (don't really plan on messing with this but may have too).

I await Alibre Support's response.
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Got alibre running BUT the display area is greyed out. This makes it unusable. Good news: apparently this is the furthest anyone has ever got to getting Alibre to run in Wine. So maybe more progress can be made.

I email Alibre support regarding this and sent a couple of screenshots. This was their reply:

"In order to most effectively use Alibre Design, your video card, its drivers, and your DirectX installation must be working correctly. Following these directions should solve any display or video performance issues you might experience.


Does your video card meet the requirements for Alibre Design? Alibre uses DirectX 9.0c for maximum performance and stability. However, many older video cards and drivers do not support this standard and in some cases, the only option is to purchase a new video card for your computer. Your video card must support:

* 64 MB of video memory or more (128 MB or more recommended)
* DirectX 9.0c or higher (Windows Vista includes DirectX 10)
* DirectDraw Acceleration
* Direct3D Acceleration
* AGP Texture Acceleration


Alibre recommends cards from the following series:

* nVidia FX 5500 series or better
* ATI Radeon 9000 series or better
* Intel 82815 Graphics Controller or better


Alibre recommends against:

* nVidia Quadro cards of any version
* Cards which claim to be optimized for OpenGL - Alibre uses DirectX and will not benefit from this


Even if you have a recommended video card, your drivers must be up-to-date. DirectX 9.0c was released in August of 2004 and as a general rule, if the video card driver is older than August 2005, then it will most likely not run. Here is how to determine the age of your drivers:

1. Go to the Start Menu and select Control Panel.
2. Click on System.
3. Go to the Hardware tab > Device Manager > Display adapters.
4. Right-click on it and select the Properties > Drivers tab.
5. Go to your video card manufacturer's website and see if they have a newer driver than the one that you are currently using. If there is a newer driver, please install it. Most graphics cards are from one of these three manufacturers:
* ATI: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
* Intel: http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/
* nVidia: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

Your DirectX version must be 9.0c (for Windows XP) or 10 (for Windows Vista). If you have an older version of DirectX, please browse to http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/ to download the latest update. If you are unsure which version you have, please follow these steps:

1. Open the Start Menu
* If you are running Windows XP, select Run. Type "dxdiag" in the Open box, then hit Enter.
* If you are running Windows Vista, type "dxdiag" in the Search box, then hit Enter.
2. If you receive a dialog box about digital signatures, select Yes.
3. In the System tab, the last line in the ”System Information” section will tell you the version you are running. Alibre needs 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) or higher.
4. Go to the Display tab to test the DirectX capabilities.
5. Make sure that these are all enabled:
* DirectDraw Acceleration
* Direct3D Acceleration
* AGP Texture Acceleration
6. Also, please run these two tests:
* Test DirectDraw
* Test Direct3D
7. Click the Save All Information button at the bottom of the DirectX screen and attach the *.txt file to the support incident. We will use the file to help determine your operating system, video card and video card driver, and other information in case the previous steps did not solve your display issues.


You must also make sure that your color depth is set to 16-bit or higher and your resolution is 800x600 or higher.

1. Right-click on your desktop and select Display Properties. Go to the Settings tab and change the color depth to 16-bit or higher, and make sure that your screen resolution is 800x600 at a minimum (1024x768 or higher is recommended).

If you are still having display issues, it could be that your video card does not support AGP Stencil Buffering, which is a new requirement in version 10 to implement Fast Views.

1. In the Home Window, go to Tools > Options and select the Display tab.
2. Change the Advanced 2D rendering option to "Disabled".
3. Close and reopen Alibre.


We hope this helps. If you need any clarification or have any further questions, just let us know and we will be happy to help."


Perhaps this can help shed light on the matter. I will continue to experiment myself however all input is welcome. Personally I feel the directx9c may be the cause of it not running properly, not 100% certain though.

Apropos screenshots... how do I attach images. They might be useful.
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bigseb wrote: Perhaps this can help shed light on the matter. I will continue to experiment myself however all input is welcome. Personally I feel the directx9c may be the cause of it not running properly, not 100% certain though.

Apropos screenshots... how do I attach images. They might be useful.
What is your graphics card/driver?

Does disabling AGP Stencil Buffering per the vendor's instructions make a difference? If not, try installing real directx with winetricks.

You can't attach images here; upload them somewhere else and post a link.
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My graphics card is a Nvidia Geforce 8400. Ubuntu sees it as such. Alibre, for some reason sees it as an 8300!?!?

Disabling the AGP Stencil Buffering makes no difference.

If I install the winetricks directx must I first delete the .wine folder, install the directx then reinstall the program (same routine as last time?)
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bigseb wrote:My graphics card is a Nvidia Geforce 8400. Ubuntu sees it as such. Alibre, for some reason sees it as an 8300!?!?

Disabling the AGP Stencil Buffering makes no difference.

If I install the winetricks directx must I first delete the .wine folder, install the directx then reinstall the program (same routine as last time?)
It's good you have an nVidia card, because they have the best Linux drivers. Make sure you are using the proprietary driver.

You shouldn't have to reinstall just to install directx. However, before you do that, please post console output from running the app. Looking back, I see that this app also requires IE6, and that could be the problem rather than directx (or it could be both).
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Congratulations on getting this far!

I missed the fact that they got rid of the MS Java dependency.

I'll download the trial and try it out as soon as I beat their registration form into submisson...
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