Office 2007 black artifacting in wine >1.2

Post by **dimesio** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:14 pm

I'm not seeing any artifacts here in 1.3.0.

winetricks packages (that I see via history |grep winetricks):
corefonts tahoma vcrun2005sp1 wsh56js d3dX9

Reinstall in a a clean wineprefix with no winetricks. After installing, set riched20 to native and usp10 to native, builtin. Just set the overrides--Office installs its own version of those dlls, so there's no need to use winetricks. You can install allfonts and wsh56js with winetricks. Don't install any other winetricks.

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:23 pm

dimesio wrote:I'm not seeing any artifacts here in 1.3.0.
winetricks packages (that I see via history |grep winetricks):
corefonts tahoma vcrun2005sp1 wsh56js d3dX9
Reinstall in a a clean wineprefix with no winetricks. After installing, set riched20 to native and usp10 to native, builtin. Just set the overrides--Office installs its own version of those dlls, so there's no need to use winetricks. You can install allfonts and wsh56js with winetricks. Don't install any other winetricks.

All right I'll give it a shot. Thanks!

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:47 pm

Well unfortunately I tried the above process and the problem persists

I'm actually installing Arch on another system so I'm going to test on that shortly.

Post by **dimesio** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:55 pm

What graphics card/driver?

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:19 pm

dimesio wrote:What graphics card/driver?

Intel 4500MHD using kernel module i915.
Driver package details:
intel-dri 7.8.2-1
xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1

The driver performs well in kWin with compositing as well as in Starcraft and Deus Ex.

It used to work flawlessly before 1.2.

Now I'm running Windows 7 in Virtualbox with Seamless Mode and running Excel through that.........however I would like to use WINE.

Post by **dimesio** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:14 pm

DarksideEE7 wrote: Intel 4500MHD using kernel module i915.
Driver package details:
intel-dri 7.8.2-1
xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1

The driver performs well in kWin with compositing as well as in Starcraft and Deus Ex.

It used to work flawlessly before 1.2.

My desktop has an nVidia card, but my laptop has Intel 965, and I'm not seeing any problem there, either.

Does turning off compositing make any difference?

Does downgrading Wine fix it? If the answer to that question is yes, you need to run a regression test and file a bug.

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:21 pm

dimesio wrote:
DarksideEE7 wrote: Intel 4500MHD using kernel module i915.
Driver package details:
intel-dri 7.8.2-1
xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1

The driver performs well in kWin with compositing as well as in Starcraft and Deus Ex.

It used to work flawlessly before 1.2.
My desktop has an nVidia card, but my laptop has Intel 965, and I'm not seeing any problem there, either.

Does turning off compositing make any difference?

Does downgrading Wine fix it? If the answer to that question is yes, you need to run a regression test and file a bug.

No, disabling compositing doesn't fix it. I'm going to text in fluxbox now.

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:19 am

All right well same thing in fluxbox.

I also finished configuring my other system and excel looks completely normal with a 4870X2 using the proprietary ATI drivers. Guess it's a graphics driver bug.

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:12 pm

DarksideEE7 <[email protected]> wrote:

Sent: Aug 10, 2010 10:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: Office 2007 black artifacting in wine >1.2

All right well same thing in fluxbox.

I also finished configuring my other system and excel looks completely normal with a 4870X2 using the proprietary
ATI drivers. Guess it's a graphics driver bug.

Which version of the drivers are you using? Catalyst 10.7 has been reported to have problems with Wine. Can you try version 10.5?

James McKenzie

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:14 pm

James Mckenzie wrote:DarksideEE7 <[email protected]> wrote:
Sent: Aug 10, 2010 10:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: Office 2007 black artifacting in wine >1.2

All right well same thing in fluxbox.

I also finished configuring my other system and excel looks completely normal with a 4870X2 using the proprietary
ATI drivers. Guess it's a graphics driver bug.
Which version of the drivers are you using? Catalyst 10.7 has been reported to have problems with Wine. Can you try version 10.5?

James McKenzie

No you misunderstood, the system on which I'm experiencing the bug is my laptop with the Intel integrated 4500MHD.

I mentioned the desktop with the 4870X2 just to say that it works fine on it. I'm using the proprietary 10.7 with bin32-wine-suse 1.3.0-1 and it doesn't have any corruption whatsoever.

James McKenzie · Post by **James McKenzie** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:28 pm

DarksideEE7 wrote:

James Mckenzie wrote:

DarksideEE7 <[email protected]> wrote:

Sent: Aug 10, 2010 10:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: Office 2007 black artifacting in wine >1.2

All right well same thing in fluxbox.

I also finished configuring my other system and excel looks completely normal with a 4870X2 using the proprietary
ATI drivers. Guess it's a graphics driver bug.

Which version of the drivers are you using? Catalyst 10.7 has been reported to have problems with Wine. Can you try version 10.5?

James McKenzie

No you misunderstood, the system on which I'm experiencing the bug is my laptop with the Intel integrated 4500MHD.

I did misunderstand. I mis-read that you were having problems with the
AMD/ATI video card. My apologies.

Intel video cards are flaky with Linux and don't work well with Wine due
to their substandard Linux drivers. Unfortunately, you are like me,
stuck with whatever was put in the laptop, which appears to be an
'on-board' Intel video chipset. I'm stuck with two ATI video chipsets,
one in my Mac, the other (which is not supported by FC12-13) in my old
IBM Thinkpad A22p.

I mentioned the desktop with the 4870X2 just to say that it works fine on it. I'm using the proprietary 10.7 with bin32-wine-suse 1.3.0-1 and it doesn't have any corruption whatsoever.

Amazing. I've read of all sorts of difficulties with these drivers.
However, if it works, don't try to break it (that's MY job.)

James McKenzie

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:17 pm

James McKenzie wrote:DarksideEE7 wrote:
James Mckenzie wrote:

DarksideEE7 <[email protected]> wrote:

Which version of the drivers are you using? Catalyst 10.7 has been reported to have problems with Wine. Can you try version 10.5?

James McKenzie

No you misunderstood, the system on which I'm experiencing the bug is my laptop with the Intel integrated 4500MHD.

I did misunderstand. I mis-read that you were having problems with the
AMD/ATI video card. My apologies.

Intel video cards are flaky with Linux and don't work well with Wine due
to their substandard Linux drivers. Unfortunately, you are like me,
stuck with whatever was put in the laptop, which appears to be an
'on-board' Intel video chipset. I'm stuck with two ATI video chipsets,
one in my Mac, the other (which is not supported by FC12-13) in my old
IBM Thinkpad A22p.
I mentioned the desktop with the 4870X2 just to say that it works fine on it. I'm using the proprietary 10.7 with bin32-wine-suse 1.3.0-1 and it doesn't have any corruption whatsoever.

Amazing. I've read of all sorts of difficulties with these drivers.
However, if it works, don't try to break it (that's MY job.)

James McKenzie

Yea I'm surprised at how well it's running on the desktop. That's one of the reasons I prefer Arch on my personal systems....building from a minimal setup usually minimizes the number of random bugs.

One thing that I can't seem to get is assigning an icon to Excel, Powerpoint, etc. via KDE's menu editor. I've done this easily in the past but it won't stick for some reason (only on my desktop.)

DarksideEE7 · Post by **DarksideEE7** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:58 pm

So are there any options other than hope the next Intel driver isn't broken in Office?

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:17 am

DarksideEE7 <[email protected]> wrote:

Sent: Aug 11, 2010 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: Office 2007 black artifacting in wine >1.2

So are there any options other than hope the next Intel driver isn't broken in Office?

We can all hope that Intel writes the best video drivers for Linux ever seen (I have an interesting property in Las Vegas you can buy. It's right on the strip and even crosses water.)

Actually, I would AM surprised that Intel video chips work with Linux AT ALL. I was involved with a now 'defunct' desktop operating system in the early 1990s and Intel actually makes ATI look bad for the level of support they provided. Towards the end of its existance, however, ATI was THE brand to buy for that OS. Now, it appears that nVidia is THE brand to buy, if you can, for the best Linux experience.

James McKenzie

keveenl · Post by **keveenl** » Fri May 20, 2011 6:34 am

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hasi · Post by **hasi** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:12 pm

This is still an issue on Wine 1.3.26 with onboard Intel graphics on Natty 32-bit. The problem is especially bad when the options menu is opened, for instance via "Customize the Quick Access Toolbar".

Post by **dimesio** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:24 pm

hasi wrote:This is still an issue on Wine 1.3.26 with onboard Intel graphics on Natty 32-bit. The problem is especially bad when the options menu is opened, for instance via "Customize the Quick Access Toolbar".

It's not a Wine bug, it's an Intel driver bug, and it's been fixed in the 2.16.0 driver.

hasi · Post by **hasi** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:00 pm

Thanks very much for your reply, dimesio. As I am running natty, I currently have the 2.14 driver.

However, I just found a solution, a fix for the 2.14 driver released by Sameer Morar:
https://launchpad.net/~smorar/+archive/bugfixes.

I had found it in this thread:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28798

It works beautifully for me. As I can see so far, all problems are gone.
Cheers!