World of Warcraft OpenGL render problem

zaibas · Post by **zaibas** » Sun May 30, 2010 12:53 pm

I've searched through whole internet, but didn't find any solution. First of all i want to clear some things:
1. No, there's nothing wrong with my video card
2. Yes, I've latest drivers
3. Yes, I've installed wow to my ext4 partition
4. Yes, my OpenGL is working fine. I have some other games - opengl renderer is working like a charm on them
5. My copy of wow is fine too. I can play it in D3D mode (just that perfomance is realy poor)
6. Tryed on distributions: Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Fedora, Archlinux. Works fine in openGL mode in Windows 7.

I tryed to set opengl mode in all ways(shortcut, config.wtf), tryed a lot of wine versions (since 1.0.1 till 1.2 rc1), but I get same error message all the time:

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fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x3aed14,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:d3d_caps:select_card_intel_mesa Card selection not handled for Mesa Intel driver
fixme:d3d_caps:init_driver_info Unhandled vendor 8086.

My Computer spec.:
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2ghz
RAM: 2 gb
GPU: Intel 82945G

I believe it's a bug related to my graphics card model

Andrew McKinnon · Post by **Andrew McKinnon** » Sun May 30, 2010 1:09 pm

Have you tried playing it in a Emulated Virtual Desktop located under
graphics in the Wine configuration?

I can't play any games with having that feature turned on, without my
whole system goes screwing, mainly my dual display resulting in having
to reboot.

Andy

On 10-05-30 01:53 PM, zaibas wrote:

I've searched through whole internet, but didn't find any solution. First of all i want to clear some things:
1. No, there's nothing wrong with my video card
2. Yes, I've latest drivers
3. Yes, I've installed wow to my ext4 partition
4. Yes, my OpenGL is working fine. I have some other games - opengl renderer is working like a charm on them
5. My copy of wow is fine too. I can play it in D3D mode (just that perfomance is realy poor)
6. Tryed on distributions: Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Fedora, Archlinux. Works fine in openGL mode in Windows 7.

I tryed to set opengl mode in all ways(shortcut, config.wtf), tryed a lot of wine versions (since 1.0.1 till 1.2 rc1), but I get same error message all the time:

Code:

fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x3aed14,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:d3d_caps:select_card_intel_mesa Card selection not handled for Mesa Intel driver
fixme:d3d_caps:init_driver_info Unhandled vendor 8086.

My Computer spec.:
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2ghz
RAM: 2 gb
GPU: Intel 82945G

I believe it's a bug related to my graphics card model

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Jim Hall · Post by **Jim Hall** » Sun May 30, 2010 1:14 pm

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM, zaibas <[email protected]> wrote:

I've searched through whole internet, but didn't find any solution. First
of all i want to clear some things:
1. No, there's nothing wrong with my video card
2. Yes, I've latest drivers
3. Yes, I've installed wow to my ext4 partition
4. Yes, my OpenGL is working fine. I have some other games - opengl
renderer is working like a charm on them
5. My copy of wow is fine too. I can play it in D3D mode (just that
perfomance is realy poor)
6. Tryed on distributions: Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Fedora, Archlinux. Works
fine in openGL mode in Windows 7.

I tryed to set opengl mode in all ways(shortcut, config.wtf), tryed a lot
of wine versions (since 1.0.1 till 1.2 rc1), but I get same error message
all the time:

Code:

fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x3aed14,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:d3d_caps:select_card_intel_mesa Card selection not handled for Mesa
Intel driver
fixme:d3d_caps:init_driver_info Unhandled vendor 8086.

My Computer spec.:
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2ghz
RAM: 2 gb
GPU: Intel 82945G

I believe it's a bug related to my graphics card model

It's not a bug. Most Intel graphics chips/cards just aren't good enough. A
high end Nvidia card seems to be the best option currently. IMHO

Jim
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zaibas · Post by **zaibas** » Sun May 30, 2010 11:04 pm

But this is illogical... With such card I can play in openGL mode on Windows with arround 30-40 FPS, in linux I should get around 60, why the hell my card is just not good enought?

Gert van den Berg · Post by **Gert van den Berg** » Sun May 30, 2010 11:08 pm

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 06:04, zaibas <[email protected]> wrote:

But this is illogical... With such card I can play in openGL mode on Windows with arround 30-40 FPS, in linux I should get around 60, why the hell my card is just not good enought?

Drivers, not hardware....

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Mon May 31, 2010 3:28 pm

zaibas wrote:But this is illogical... With such card I can play in openGL mode on Windows with arround 30-40 FPS, in linux I should get around 60, why the hell my card is just not good enought?

Why do you expect much better framerates in Linux? I read that you're trying some Direct3D games - those will even inevitably be slower than in Windows because of an extra translation.

For true GL apps, though - yes, it's very likely the drivers' fault rather than Wine's.

James McKenzie · Post by **James McKenzie** » Mon May 31, 2010 7:49 pm

zaibas wrote:

But this is illogical... With such card I can play in openGL mode on Windows with arround 30-40 FPS, in linux I should get around 60, why the hell my card is just not good enought?

It has been said here, but I will state again: Windows has its own
drivers, Linux has its own drivers:

nVidia is great supporter of Linux and has the most
robust/advanced/complete Linux drivers.
AMD/ATI are in the money game and have provided Linux drivers of
questionable quality, thus there are two forks of drivers: Those
provided by AMD/ATI and those provided through open source to a
proprietary 'bit'. To add to this is the fact that AMD/ATI wants to
stay even with and get ahead of nVidia. Thus their drivers for their
latest model video cards are getting better. However, this support
should be back-streamed to the older models as some of them are great
cards and sell well on the second use market.
Intel is in the Windows camp and depends on that OS to make money.
Thus, their Linux drivers are poor (and that is placing them in a good
light) and poorly maintained. There are no open source drivers for
their GPUs that I know of.

Any other video card is a gamble as to whether or not it will work with
Linux, at all.

Now, Wine places stresses on the video subsystem of Linux that most
programs just don't even get close to. This shows the greatness and
weaknesses of Linux video drivers. Both nVidia and AMD/ATI are working
with the project to improve their video drivers so that the Linux
desktop user gets the best user experience.

So, a video card that works 'great' in Windows, may not even work with
Linux or give horrible performance.

James McKenzie

zaibas · Post by **zaibas** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:28 am

Yes, I've understood that.
But I think my card isn't that bad even with these Intel drivers.
This is glxgears print:

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4972 frames in 5.0 seconds
4979 frames in 5.0 seconds
4992 frames in 5.0 seconds
4977 frames in 5.0 seconds
4704 frames in 5.0 seconds

Well something like an old Nvidia models (FX5200 and other similar), my OpenGL is working fine too, I can play for eg.: Unreal Tournament 2004 with high details with almost no lag.

At the moment wine don't even let me to give a try playing WoW in OpenGL mode, I'm absolutely sure that it would run better than in D3D. Even 30 FPS would be cool for me.

3vi1 · Post by **3vi1** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:21 am

zaibas wrote: At the moment wine don't even let me to give a try playing WoW in OpenGL mode, I'm absolutely sure that it would run better than in D3D. Even 30 FPS would be cool for me.

I'm not sure what kind of performance you will get when this is fixed, but I do agree there is at least one Wine issue that needs to be resolved here.

Everyone bashing the Intel hardware/drivers (just as I was about to do), should go take a look at http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22625#c13.

It looks like Alexandre closed the original issue, since that was fixed (though only to a certain point). But, there's still a chunk of code missing that's needed to support OpenGL on these Intel GPUs.

zaibas: I suggest searching the bugzilla to see if anyone's put in a request to get the fixmes squashed and have your Intel chipset added to the driver_version_table. If not, open a bug for it.

One other thing: The text on the fixme doesn't look right. It looks to me like the earlier patch put "Mesa" in the table's description for all the Intel options, even the one that uses GL_VENDOR_INTEL. :\

firesoul296 · Post by **firesoul296** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:38 am

my father boosted my performence by doing an undetected update of drivers i have no background still on wow but you can log in and play the game i suggest doing the same (srry but ul have to look it up cant remember the website as it was a while ago) good luck.

ps: wow has blacklisted this card going behind thier back makes it reognize another type of card BACKUP YOUR SYSTEM BEFORE UPDATING my computer crashed while the first update took place =D

firesoul296 · Post by **firesoul296** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:40 am

firesoul296 wrote:my father boosted my performence by doing an undetected update of drivers i have no background still on wow but you can log in and play the game i suggest doing the same (srry but ul have to look it up cant remember the website as it was a while ago) good luck.

ps: wow has blacklisted this card going behind thier back makes it reognize another type of card BACKUP YOUR SYSTEM BEFORE UPDATING my computer crashed while the first update took place =D

o yeah and btw i get up to 250 fps maximum on my card dunno why u get so little

Roho · Post by **Roho** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:49 am

If the inbuilt graphics aren't good enough try to buy a dedicated graphics card.