Now you can go crazy; Steam and Source natively for Linux

[eps]

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a ... ment&num=1

I will be very interested in any tie-ins with Wine for win32 games.

[DaVince]

Thank you very much for this news. I'm exhilerated to see this coming to Linux!

As for Wine tie-ins though; seems like Valve is already porting the most important games (like the steam engine) to Linux. A Wine tie-in and possible further support from Valve for said Wine games would be very nice, though.

[DL]

I'd probably prefer they didn't integrate wine, to be honest. I love the wine project but I'd rather they force publishers to release linux native games instead. Although on the plus side, maybe them doing this could result in wine getting a lot of bugs fixed or even improved performance.

[Blackwolf454]

What I'm starting to see is people see that Linux is being used quite a bit. I think more and more into the future we will have a lot of games coming to Linux. If that happens windows is going to have to find a way to get better and have it a little bit more open then it is now.

[eps]

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Blackwolf454
<[email protected]> wrote:

What I'm starting to see is people see that Linux is being used quite a bit. I think more and more into the future we will have a lot of games coming to Linux. If that happens windows is going to have to find a way to get better and have it a little bit more open then it is now.

I thought this half a decade ago. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[DaVince]

I'd probably prefer they didn't integrate wine, to be honest. I love the wine project but I'd rather they force publishers to release linux native games instead.

Naturally. But with the large amount of (DirectX) games already offered on Steam, it is unrealistic to think none of them will need Wine. And, as you said, we'll have a lot more testers, making Wine much better as a whole.

[Blackwolf454]

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Blackwolf454
<[email protected]> wrote:

What I'm starting to see is people see that Linux is being used quite a bit. I think more and more into the future we will have a lot of games coming to Linux. If that happens windows is going to have to find a way to get better and have it a little bit more open then it is now.

I thought this half a decade ago. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

This is different then a half decade ago just because of the internet.

[Martin Gregorie]

On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 13:06 -0500, Blackwolf454 wrote:

eps wrote:

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Blackwolf454
<[email protected]> wrote:

What I'm starting to see is people see that Linux is being used quite a bit. I think more and more into the future we will have a lot of games coming to Linux. If that happens windows is going to have to find a way to get better and have it a little bit more open then it is now.

I thought this half a decade ago. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

This is different then a half decade ago just because of the internet.

What do you mean? The Internet was alive and well, thank you, in 1994.
That was the year that the first commercial spam was sent by the legal
firm of Siegel & Siegel, advertising Green Card immigration services.
The first widely used web browser, Mosaic, came out in 1993 and the
first version of MSIE in 1995.

It seems to me that you're at least a decade behind the times.

Martin

[Blackwolf454]

On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 13:06 -0500, Blackwolf454 wrote:

eps wrote:

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Blackwolf454
<[email protected]> wrote:
I thought this half a decade ago. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

This is different then a half decade ago just because of the internet.

What do you mean? The Internet was alive and well, thank you, in 1994.
That was the year that the first commercial spam was sent by the legal
firm of Siegel & Siegel, advertising Green Card immigration services.
The first widely used web browser, Mosaic, came out in 1993 and the
first version of MSIE in 1995.

It seems to me that you're at least a decade behind the times.

Martin

I was there for of that just now the Internet is huge and the Linux community is a lot bigger now. Plus Valve is working on Half-life 2 Counter-Strike to work with Linux thats just a sign that it's coming

[James Mckenzie]

-----Original Message-----

From: Blackwolf454 <[email protected]>
Sent: May 13, 2010 1:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: Now you can go crazy; Steam and Source natively for Linux


I was there for of that just now the Internet is huge and the Linux community is a lot bigger
now. Plus Valve is working on Half-life 2 Counter-Strike to work with Linux thats just a sign
that it's coming

The real sign that Linux has arrived is when there are Linux-only full graphic games. These exist for the Mac (Aspyr Games is a Mac house.) The good part is that this appears to be starting.

Also, when folks start adopting Linux as their desktop solution, en masse, then the Windows blockade will start to shatter. That, unfortunately, depends on reliable programs being constructed for it. This is also happening, no matter what others may say. OpenOffice.org has come a long way with Microsoft Office and other office product compatibility. Sure there are features that need work (in some cases a lot of work) but the returned value is minimal. This means that Sun/Oracle are not going to supply the solution and it is up to the community to do so. It would be nice of Oracle to state a direction as to what it is going to do and fix so the remaining problems can be turned over and worked. This prevents use of resources (people, time and equipment) where it is not needed.

Again, Valve appears to be moving towards a Linux native client and maybe, just maybe Linux client games. Only time will tell and that means we have to wait and see. In the meantime, Wine needs a fix so that Steam will run again on it.

James McKenzie

[eps]

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:57 PM, James Mckenzie
<[email protected]> wrote:

Again, Valve appears to be moving towards a Linux native client and maybe, just maybe Linux client games.  Only time will tell and that means we have to wait and see.  In the meantime, Wine needs a fix so that Steam will run again on it.

Wine works perfectly with Steam. Compiling in one patch for shopping
makes Steam a Platinum application.

[Cr0k]

I agree, but if the Linux version on Steam could run with the same performances than on Windows, it should be better

[Dark Mayu]

According to this Phoronix Article (see -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a ... tion&num=1), it really seems that they are porting the engine to linux.

When I first saw this topic, I thought "oh, better WINE support for Steam?"
I am really glad that Valve is doing this step; As mentioned in the previous posts: Most Windows users stick to their OS because of the games only. But since Steam and many games offered by Steam (and that are a lot!) are very popular, some pc gamers might consider to change to linux -> exactly the boost we need!

[James McKenzie]

Edward Savage wrote:

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:57 PM, James Mckenzie
<[email protected]> wrote:

Again, Valve appears to be moving towards a Linux native client and maybe, just maybe Linux client games. Only time will tell and that means we have to wait and see. In the meantime, Wine needs a fix so that Steam will run again on it.

Wine works perfectly with Steam. Compiling in one patch for shopping
makes Steam a Platinum application.

If you have to patch Wine, the program affected is NOT Platinum until,
and only until, that patch is accepted and integrated into the Wine Code
base. At best, it is Gold.

Platinum: All features work, without any modifications (patches and
native dlls) when installed using the Windows installer.
Gold: All features work, but Wine has to be modified (patches and/or
native dlls)

James McKenzie

[Blackwolf454]

My deal is Linux plays it's games better then Windows plays their games. I wonder if game companys are starting to notice that