Sonar 8 & vcrun2005

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:23 am

I'm trying to run Sonar 8 via Wine. I was advised to run vcrun2005, vcrun2005sp1, and run those after setting Wine to win2k, all to no avail. I started a thread here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-59 ... ml#5906267

I'd appreciate any tips. I'm SERIOUSLY trying to leave Windows for good, but I need this program until I've got something equivalent set up under Linux. I will also need to keep running this program because of all the projects I've created with Sonar and it will take a long time to convert them to something else. But if I can get Sonar running under Wine, I can at least get rid of Windows that much sooner.

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:25 am

Can't edit my own posts! So, adding what I forgot:

At this point, I'm trying to install Sonar under Wine, not run the program. I'll deal with any problems actually running it when we blow up that bridge.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:09 am

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:25 AM, audiodef<[email protected]> wrote:

Can't edit my own posts! So, adding what I forgot:

At this point, I'm trying to install Sonar under Wine, not run the program. I'll deal with any problems actually running it when we blow up that bridge.

I skimmed over the thread. Try:
$ mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.bak # start with a clean prefix
$ winetricks -q mfc42 vcrun2005 vcrun2005sp1
$ wine sonar.exe

--
-Austin

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:44 pm

Let me know how your experience goes, in the end. I'm trying to get sonar working as well, albeit an older version (4 I think, not at my machine right now). For what it's worth, I believe sonar 2 probably still works (though I don't have it to test anymore). That's the version I used to use.

There used to be a pretty comprehensive tutorial on how to get sonar working on the sonar 2 appdb, but it was deleted due to age. I'm hoping to get it working again at some point as well.

Finally, not completely related, but you could always test out programs like qtractor and ardour (ardour will have midi support soon, if you use it as much as I do). I don't like their interfaces as much, but you might have some luck with them. Good luck either way!

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:20 am

austin:

I tried your advice. I continued to get the same errors during the Sonar install that I've been getting since the beginning. I decided to click on "ignore" for all the dll errors and after I got the finished installing dialog and tried to run Sonar, it didn't even start. Intead, I got this:

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fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT" (8.0.50727.762)
fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT" (8.0.50727.762)
err:module:import_dll Library MFC80U.DLL (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\CJLibrary.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\CJLibrary.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library CJLibrary.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\SONARSTD.EXE") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MFC80U.DLL (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\SONARSTD.EXE") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\SONARSTD.EXE") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\SONARSTD.EXE") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\SONAR 8 Studio Edition\\SONARSTD.EXE" failed, status c0000135

I hope this indicates something I can fix.

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:22 am

Dancemaster:

Sure thing. Just stay tuned to this thread and the one I linked to on the Gentoo forums. It's not looking good, but I'm hoping to nab it at some point.

I have Ardour and qtractor. I think they're great. Until I figure out how to get my Onyx Firewire mixers working in such programs, though, I'll need Sonar even if I need to keep a Windoze partition.

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:55 am

Is this the app? http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:24 pm

Yes and no. I have Sonar 8 Studio - not the trial version.

dimesio wrote:Is this the app? http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:29 pm

audiodef wrote:Yes and no. I have Sonar 8 Studio - not the trial version.

dimesio wrote:Is this the app? http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp

The trial version doesn't need vcrun2005 installed with winetricks--it installs it itself. The only thing it needs is mfc42. The trial installer could be different, of course, but I have to ask, have you tried installing the app to a clean wineprefix in 1.1.26 with just winetricks mfc42?

(Not that the trial runs, even though it installs--it crashes trying to display the main window.)

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:53 pm

I've tried everything in this thread and the one I started on the Gentoo forums. So far, no good.

I've had the screen - and my entire system - crashing problem, too.

dimesio wrote:
audiodef wrote:Yes and no. I have Sonar 8 Studio - not the trial version.

dimesio wrote:Is this the app? http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp
The trial version doesn't need vcrun2005 installed with winetricks--it installs it itself. The only thing it needs is mfc42. The trial installer could be different, of course, but I have to ask, have you tried installing the app to a clean wineprefix in 1.1.26 with just winetricks mfc42?

(Not that the trial runs, even though it installs--it crashes trying to display the main window.)

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:29 pm

audiodef wrote:I've tried everything in this thread and the one I started on the Gentoo forums. So far, no good.

I've had the screen - and my entire system - crashing problem, too.

If your entire system is crashing, then it's not a Wine issue. Buggy graphics drivers are the most likely culprit. The only thing that crashed for me was the app itself.

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:44 am

It isn't buggy graphics drivers (this I know with a certainty). It's either missing/incompatible libs or something needs to be configured some other way in Wine. Runaway process, perhaps. I dunno.

It just isn't buggy graphics.

Post by **dimesio** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:54 am

audiodef wrote:It isn't buggy graphics drivers (this I know with a certainty). It's either missing/incompatible libs or something needs to be configured some other way in Wine. Runaway process, perhaps. I dunno.

It just isn't buggy graphics.

Wine is a user-level process. If it's crashing your whole system, something is wrong with your system.

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:07 am

I just tried it again and I see that it doesn't crash my system. I do get the Sonar window border appearing and hanging, though.

What could I try next?

Post by **dimesio** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:32 am

audiodef wrote:I just tried it again and I see that it doesn't crash my system. I do get the Sonar window border appearing and hanging, though.

What could I try next?

Post console output.

audiodef · Post by **audiodef** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:24 pm

I've already posted everything there is here and in the Gentoo forums thread I linked to earlier. I'd rather not take up more space in the server's db by repeating my outputs.

JuryS · Post by **JuryS** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:29 pm

At me absolutely same problem at start MS Office Access Runtime.

This program free, the link for downloading:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... layLang=en

It is a problem of the programming language C, therefore and does not work MSVCR80.dll

The bug is already registered on WineHQ at number 19297:

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19297

I ask to support and also in this bug to leave the wishes on development wine. Can be then there will be at least a date of correction of the Bug

All thanks

stingray · Post by **stingray** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:20 pm

I did not have ACEDAO.DLL installed anywhere, so deleting it was not an option.

Another option to get access running.

Change the manifest file for access msaccess.exe.manifest found in [Your Wine
Prefix]../Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12 and remove the dependency
reference to AceDAO, ie edit the file and remove the following lines: (it may
be run together on the same line...)

<dependency>
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity type="win32" name="AceDAO" version="12.0.0.0" language="*"
processorArchitecture="X86">
</assemblyIdentity>
</dependentAssembly>
</dependency>

I found this suggestion here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102840
and added it to ArchLinux Wiki here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mic ... ffice_2007