alsa not available in winecfg under karmic?

[Susan Cragin]

I upgraded to karmic yesterday, and ran winecfg.
The list of possible sound systems has shrunk to three: oss, jack and eSound.
I tried running winecfg plain, and with padsp and pasuspender prefixes.
Susan

[austin987]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Susan Cragin <[email protected]> wrote:

I upgraded to karmic yesterday, and ran winecfg.
The list of possible sound systems has shrunk to three: oss, jack and eSound.
I tried running winecfg plain, and with padsp and pasuspender prefixes.
Susan

File Ubuntu bug?

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-Austin

[Evil Jay]

Works fine here. I upgraded to Karmic a couple of days ago and Alsa
works fine (and is available in Winecfg).

I suspect that you did the dist-upgrade at a point where not all
packages were available, and accidentally removed something. I know
that when I upgraded I had to manually pick some packages because it
would have removed half of KDE (the required packages were uploaded to
the repos the following day).

Karmic doesn't even reach Alpha1 until the 14th, so I wouldn't recommend
anyone playing with it at this point unless they really know what you're
doing and don't mind the occasional breakage.

-J


Austin English wrote:

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Susan Cragin <[email protected]> wrote:

I upgraded to karmic yesterday, and ran winecfg.
The list of possible sound systems has shrunk to three: oss, jack and eSound.
I tried running winecfg plain, and with padsp and pasuspender prefixes.
Susan

File Ubuntu bug?

[Susan Cragin]

Works fine here. I upgraded to Karmic a couple of days ago and Alsa
works fine (and is available in Winecfg).

I suspect that you did the dist-upgrade at a point where not all
packages were available, and accidentally removed something. I know
that when I upgraded I had to manually pick some packages because it
would have removed half of KDE (the required packages were uploaded to
the repos the following day).

Karmic doesn't even reach Alpha1 until the 14th, so I wouldn't recommend
anyone playing with it at this point unless they really know what you're
doing and don't mind the occasional breakage.

-J

AAAGGGGHHH... Top-poster.
Of course I'll wait. My system's hanging out over its skis.
But could you do me a favor, now that I found you? Could you download Audacity and try to record something using alsa with pulseaudio disabled in some way? Record for 10 seconds, stop recording, and start it up again and see if that works for you?
I'm not going to file a bug, I just want to know.
Susan

[3vi1]

AAAGGGGHHH... Top-poster.

Hehe.. replied to the mailing list from thunderbird and forgot to delete what I was responding to.

Could you download Audacity and try to record something using alsa with pulseaudio disabled in some way? Record for 10 seconds, stop recording, and start it up again and see if that works for you?

Sure thing... In fact, I did this yesterday while I was playing with Kdenlive. I recorded some audio clips with Audacity to dub, and it worked fine (as does my mic in CounterStrike Source). I, as a wine user, of course have long removed pulseaudio from my system (It also screws up half the native Linux games I've ever tried under it, so good riddance to it).

My system's using the HDA-Intel drivers, by the way. Karmic actually seemed to get rid of a bug I was having with them, where under Jaunty I always had to toggle my microphone input source away/to the mic before it would work.

Sorry to hear about your system issues... You might want to back up your /home and /etc and try a clean install when a1 hits on the 14th. Good luck!

[Susan Cragin]

Well, I re-installed Karmic successfully, with no modifications, special kernels, drivers, etc.
First I tried the wine from the repository, which is 1.0.1. Winecfg showed all the expected drivers and mixers, including alsa, eSound, and jack. I got the alsa-driver to work for me with the same problem I'd had before, that it freezes up after a certain amount of time when I do training in DNS. The OSS driver worked without freezing, but the sound quality wasn't as good. Sound on OSS using a USB device was acceptable.

Then I uninstalled the distro package and built wine from git. (The only dev package that isn't available right now is libcups2-dev.)
Then I ran winecfg.
The OSS driver was the ONLY one that showed up. No alsa, no eSound, no Jack.
I have a screenshot, if anyone is interested.

Here is a list of the dev packages that you want, if you want to build. Certain packages are not mentioned below because they are installed automatically by others.

bison flex compiz-dev libfreetype6-dev libxft2-dev libxi-dev libxxf86vm-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libhal-dev libgnutls-dev libncursesw5-dev libsane-dev liblcms1-dev libcapi20-dev
libldap2-dev

Susan

[3vi1]

Very odd.

I can believe the sound problems... could just be an issue with the new ALSA and/or kernel.

The odd part is that you only see the OSS driver when building Wine from source. That definitely sounds like you're missing some -dev package.

I build wine from source every day, and I have all the options and they all work. Does 'sudo apt-get build-dep wine' tell you that you need any new dev packages? I know that I had to grab a few new ones after the upgrade to karmic.

I'm running the 64-bit version, btw:
Linux mars 2.6.30-5-generic #6-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 11 20:46:57 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[Susan Cragin]

The odd part is that you only see the OSS driver when building Wine from source. That definitely sounds like you're missing some -dev package.

Was missing libasound2-dev. How could I have missed that?

[3vi1]

Was missing libasound2-dev. How could I have missed that?

Glad you found/fixed the problem!

If you have the time, please be sure to go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and report the new general bug you're seeing with sound recording under Audacity. Hopefully one of the Alsa guru-devs will be able to squash that bug for you.

-J