What am I doing wrong?

allynorick · Post by **allynorick** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:08 pm

I am trying to get Internet Explorer to run because that is the only program I can use to log into MLS (Realtor's Website) I get the website to come up but it keeps saying I need to change the Privacy settings and enable cookies. When I go to do that, I click on the Privacy Tab and there is nothing there! It also locks up after that and I have to do a restart.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Frustrated in Oklahoma City,
Allyson

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:06 pm

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, allynorick <[email protected]> wrote:

I am trying to get Internet Explorer to run because that is the only program I can use to log into MLS (Realtor's Website) Â I get the website to come up but it keeps saying I need to change the Privacy settings and enable cookies. Â When I go to do that, I click on the Privacy Tab and there is nothing there! Â It also locks up after that and I have to do a restart.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Frustrated in Oklahoma City,
Allyson

Wine doesn't really support Internet Explorer...you can try using
ies4linux, it's made for that. Don't mix it with your regular wine
apps though.

--
-Austin

Martin Gregorie · Post by **Martin Gregorie** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:00 pm

On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 15:08 -0600, allynorick wrote:

I am trying to get Internet Explorer to run because that is the only
program I can use to log into MLS (Realtor's Website)

Why on earth would you try to run a Windows program when a native Linux
application can do the job?

The Linux version of FireFox 3.0.6 has no problem whatever with MLS. Its
a rubbish site though. It thinks Fiji is part of New Zealand.

I get the website to come up but it keeps saying I need to change the
Privacy settings and enable cookies. When I go to do that, I click on
the Privacy Tab and there is nothing there! It also locks up after
that and I have to do a restart.

Shrug. I guess thats normal for IE.

Martin

allynorick · Post by **allynorick** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:02 am

Martin,

Gee, thanks for the help. I am not a computer IT person, or whatever you call it and I have no idea what you are talking about. I thought this forum was supposed to be to help each other out; not be rude to each other.

Anyway, I guess you mother never taught you that if you don't have anything nice to say, its better not to say anything at all. Did that make you feel better?

shrug. I figured it all out myself anyway.

Thanks a bunch for going out of your way to be helpful.
Allyson

allynorick · Post by **allynorick** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:05 am

One more thing....

I tried Firefox and every other browser with MLS and they wouldn't work. That is the only reason I was resorting to this.

Each state's MLS is different and I'm not happy with it either but what choice do I have in the matter?

Allyson

Martin Gregorie · Post by **Martin Gregorie** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:36 am

Gee, thanks for the help. I am not a computer IT person, or whatever
you call it and I have no idea what you are talking about.

Simply put - if there is a Linux program that does the job, why would
you waste your own time trying to run a similar Windows program under
Wine?

As far as I'm concerned, Wine is the last resort, to be used only if I
can't find a Linux program to do what I want. I wouldn't use it for web
browsers, e-mail, databases or flight simulators (Silent Flight, Flight
Gear and X-plane all have Linux ports) but I do use it to download
traces from my flight recorder because the only program that does that
is a Windows program.

Take a look at the copy of Firefox that's part of your Linux
distribution. I've yet to find a website that it won't open and display
correctly. If you don't like Firefox for some reason, try Opera.

Martin

Martin Gregorie · Post by **Martin Gregorie** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:43 am

I tried Firefox and every other browser with MLS and they wouldn't
work. That is the only reason I was resorting to this.

Fair enough - you have a reason for running IE, but that's the sort of
information that belonged in your earlier post. If you don't say what
you've tried and why it didn't work you must expect to get replies that
treat you as complete newbie.

Each state's MLS is different and I'm not happy with it either but
what choice do I have in the matter?

Raise a bug on the MLS.

In this day and age any website or web pages that aren't standards
compliant are broken and in need of fixing.

Martin

tparker · Post by **tparker** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:49 am

On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:35 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

Take a look at the copy of Firefox that's part of your Linux
distribution. I've yet to find a website that it won't open and

display

correctly.

Just to share the info, there are a few. Washington State University's
website for their Distance Program after students log into it doesn't
display right, neither do the forums in the Blackboard software that
they (and many other universities) use. I'm trying to get the Windows
version of Firefox to run in WINE now to see if they display correctly
that way.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:11 am

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Martin Gregorie <[email protected]> wrote:

Gee, thanks for the help. Â I am not a computer IT person, or whatever
you call it and I have no idea what you are talking about.

Simply put - if there is a Linux program that does the job, why would
you waste your own time trying to run a similar Windows program under
Wine?

As far as I'm concerned, Wine is the last resort, to be used only if I
can't find a Linux program to do what I want. I wouldn't use it for web
browsers, e-mail, databases or flight simulators (Silent Flight, Flight
Gear and X-plane all have Linux ports) but I do use it to download
traces from my flight recorder because the only program that does that
is a Windows program.

We've been over this several dozen times in the forums. Wine should
work for any windows app (driver stuff and a few other exceptions
aside). If a user's application doesn't work, it's a Wine bug. Wine
isn't used solely to run applications on Linux, it's also used on
other OS's that may not have those 'native Linux' applications.
Furthermore, it's an open replication of the Win32 API. Wine isn't a
'last resort'. If a user wants their particular application over a
native application, so be it. It's not your choice to make. Open
source is supposed to inspire choice, remember?

Long story short, if you think Wine is an option of last resort,
that's your opinion, but don't come on the Wine forums to discourage
Wine's use for native applications or other soapbox preaching. Come
here to help other people with Wine.

--
-Austin

mark rumsey · Post by **mark rumsey** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:15 pm

Well said austin. I'm a newbie to this site, but I am no stranger to forums (I'm a moderator on a Land Rover club forum), so I'm 'in tune' with the way forum users usually think. It means I can usually spot posts from users who are looking at things from a different direction (and often one that doesn't match the forum ethos) and so I am able to treat those post accordingly, sifting out the good info from the rest of the post. Complete newbies to forums don't have that skill and often take every word written in a post as aboslute unquesionable truth, and that can lead to confusion and misinformation, even though everyone who has contributed to a thread may have done so with the most honourable of intentions.

I am interested in Wine for a number of reasons. I run a lot of legacy software (mostly Windows based) both at home and at work. I am now looking into ways of maintaining the ability to run that legacy software without the need to keep old hardware running, which is getting ever more difficult. So far I have been looking into Wine and virtual machines as options. At the moment thigns are not too difficult at home as I have a PC that I can boot into any one of five different versions of Windows if I need to, but it is now getting on a bit and is not up to running some of the more recent stuff I'd like to use, so I need to upgrade the machine. However, if I do I'll lose my current graphics card which has drivers for all versions of Windows from 3.11 onwards and end up with something that has just XP & Vista support. If I get to that level, I need another mean of running the older software I use as I find XP's compatibility modes a waste of space (most of the old software I use won't run regardless of the compatibility settings). The options I have are to run real copies of the old Windows OS's under virtual machines, or to run the applications directly under Wine which, I believe, makes a better job of 'being compatible' to older versions of software than XP or Vista. the fact that some of the software I run might well have native Linux version is irrelevant. I am very much a fan of MS Office 2000 & 2003. I can't stand Office 2007 so I won't be upgrading, and I find openoffice.org a very poor substitute which is probably closer to Office 95 in terms of usability and features. So, if I go the Linux route, I'll be running Office 2000 or 2003 under Wine even though the distro I choose will probably include openoffice.org as standard. If I go the Linux route with a new machine, it won't be because I want to use Linux and Linux apps instead of Windows & Windows apps, it will be because I want the ability to chose which bits of Linux and Windows I want to use together.

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:59 pm

mark rumsey wrote:I'm a newbie to this site, but I am no stranger to forums

Then you must know that hijacking threads is a really bad things to do.

If you want to get your rant out about open source and Linux in particular - start a new thread, so it can be closed separately as irrelevant.

mark rumsey · Post by **mark rumsey** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:31 pm

My apologies. It wasn't meant to be a hijack. I was just trying to point out that, like Allyson who started this thread, and Austin, I want the freedom to choose the right solution for me whether that be Windows, Wine, native Linux or a mixture of the three, not be forced down one route (I'll leave that to microsoft). To me that means supporting Wine in my own small way and not seeing it sidelined as a 'last resort'. Unfortunately I got a bit carried away this time. Sorry.