Test network under wine

[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,
firstly, I'm sorry for posting in the 3 lists ... I don't know if it is a
bug or if some developer can help me.
I comment my problem, I've used a game named FML (football manager live)
with wine previously, it worked (months ago), I don't remember the version
of FML client and wine version I would want play to FML again, I've
downloaded the new version of fml client and I've installed the last version
of wine (1.1.16), but it doesn't work. The first thing that does the fml
client is connect to a server for updating it, and it doesn't work.
I've tried test my network under wine (I use debian linux, unstable version,
I've in my sources.list "deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt sid main"),
installing a program named "The Dude" (
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Dude_Linux_Installation). It works, it opens,
but it can't connect with localhost to a port, I think that wine doesn't
work with my network config.
I'm using wifi, I've an access point that provides dhcp. My linux box works
with the network config perfectly. I've read the wine faq, and it says that
I may look my hosts file, and it is correct. I have 127.0.0.1 for loopback,
and my wifi interface IP with my FQDN and my hostname.
Thanks beforehand and I'm sorry for my english, I'm spanish Thanks!

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[Ben Klein]

2009/3/7 Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]>:

Hello,
firstly, I'm sorry for posting in the 3 lists ... I don't know if it is a
bug or if some developer can help me.
I comment my problem, I've used a game named FML (football manager live)
with wine previously, it worked (months ago), I don't remember the version
of FML client and wine version I would want play to FML again, I've
downloaded the new version of fml client and I've installed the last version
of wine (1.1.16), but it doesn't work. The first thing that does the fml
client is connect to a server for updating it, and it doesn't work.
I've tried test my network under wine (I use debian linux, unstable version,
I've in my sources.list "deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt sid main"),
installing a program named "The Dude"
(http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Dude_Linux_Installation). It works, it opens,
but it can't connect with localhost to a port, I think that wine doesn't
work with my network config.
I'm using wifi, I've an access point that provides dhcp. My linux box works
with the network config perfectly. I've read the wine faq, and it says that
I may look my hosts file, and it is correct. I have 127.0.0.1 for loopback,
and my wifi interface IP with my FQDN and my hostname.
Thanks beforehand and I'm sorry for my english, I'm spanish Thanks!

1) This is best kept on wine-users, since it's a usage problem
2) A good way to check if Wine can access the internet is: wine
iexplore http://www.winehq.org/
3) Try the new version of FML in an old version of Wine. If it works,
you've found a regression, and should take a look at the
RegressionTesting page on the wiki.

[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,

2009/3/7 Ben Klein <[email protected]>

1) This is best kept on wine-users, since it's a usage problem
2) A good way to check if Wine can access the internet is: wine
iexplore http://www.winehq.org/
3) Try the new version of FML in an old version of Wine. If it works,
you've found a regression, and should take a look at the
RegressionTesting page on the wiki.

1) Ok, I'm sorry.
2) It works, thanks for the "tip".
3) I've tried with 1.0.1, and it doesn't work. Where can I get versions more
old? Thanks beforehand.

Cheers...
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[FatButtLarry]

Oliver,

If the application in question is relatively small, you may find
success in downloading a live cd that allows the installation of wine.
I've done this with Ubuntu and Party Poker for a friend and with a
little bit of work he was playing his game on a live cd. This was
enough to prove to him that wine could work for him, but more
importantly that the distro he's running works well with wine. Fedora
is a good live cd to try as well.

Debian is fairly popular (ubuntu is based off of it), so we should see
more people complaining if the latest unstable is incompatible with
wine. What version are you running? Version 5.0 stable of debian was
recently released so if the network issue is related to your unstable
build, you may find more success with the latest stable release.

If the issue is wine-network related, you should notice the windows
version of Firefox has connectivity issues also. I assume you don't
have any special proxy settings you are using, right?

Lastly, see if there are any errors when its trying to make its socket
connections when run from terminal? You might just have a symlink or
dll out of place that the application is looking for.

-Tres

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

2009/3/7 Ben Klein <[email protected]>

1) This is best kept on wine-users, since it's a usage problem
2) A good way to check if Wine can access the internet is: wine
iexplore http://www.winehq.org/
3) Try the new version of FML in an old version of Wine. If it works,
you've found a regression, and should take a look at the
RegressionTesting page on the wiki.

1) Ok, I'm sorry.
2) It works, thanks for the "tip".
3) I've tried with 1.0.1, and it doesn't work. Where can I get versions more
old? Thanks beforehand.

Cheers...
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[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,
I reply between lines ...

2009/3/7 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

If the application in question is relatively small, you may find
success in downloading a live cd that allows the installation of wine.
I've done this with Ubuntu and Party Poker for a friend and with a
little bit of work he was playing his game on a live cd. This was
enough to prove to him that wine could work for him, but more
importantly that the distro he's running works well with wine. Fedora
is a good live cd to try as well.

ok, I've burned kubuntu cd live, and I've booted with that cd, I've
installed wine and my fml client, but it has the same error, it can't
connect with the fml server for updating it.

Debian is fairly popular (ubuntu is based off of it), so we should see
more people complaining if the latest unstable is incompatible with
wine. What version are you running? Version 5.0 stable of debian was
recently released so if the network issue is related to your unstable
build, you may find more success with the latest stable release.

I use Debian unstable, Debian Sid.

If the issue is wine-network related, you should notice the windows
version of Firefox has connectivity issues also. I assume you don't
have any special proxy settings you are using, right?

no, I don't have proxy settings, I use direct connection.

Lastly, see if there are any errors when its trying to make its socket
connections when run from terminal? You might just have a symlink or
dll out of place that the application is looking for.

when I run the fml client already installed, it doesn't show any error in
terminal (I run it from terminal).
Can I send you the fml client and you try it? Install it is ok, the problem
is when you want run the client. It's little, I will send you for mail, to
Finocchiaro and Ben Klein. Thanks beforehand.

P.D.: I'm going to try using ethernet and not wifi interface ... If it
works, I will say it.

Cheers...
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[FatButtLarry]

Oliver,

Thanks for the detailed answers. Did you happen to try Firefox for
Windows in Wine as well?

-Tres

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
I reply between lines ...

2009/3/7 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

If the application in question is relatively small, you may find
success in downloading a live cd that allows the installation of wine.
 I've done this with Ubuntu and Party Poker for a friend and with a
little bit of work he was playing his game on a live cd.  This was
enough to prove to him that wine could work for him, but more
importantly that the distro he's running works well with wine.  Fedora
is a good live cd to try as well.

ok, I've burned kubuntu cd live, and I've booted with that cd, I've
installed wine and my fml client, but it has the same error, it can't
connect with the fml server for updating it.

Debian is fairly popular (ubuntu is based off of it), so we should see
more people complaining if the latest unstable is incompatible with
wine.  What version are you running?  Version 5.0 stable of debian was
recently released so if the network issue is related to your unstable
build, you may find more success with the latest stable release.

I use Debian unstable, Debian Sid.

If the issue is wine-network related, you should notice the windows
version of Firefox has connectivity issues also.  I assume you don't
have any special proxy settings you are using, right?

no, I don't have proxy settings, I use direct connection.

Lastly, see if there are any errors when its trying to make its socket
connections when run from terminal?  You might just have a symlink or
dll out of place that the application is looking for.

when I run the fml client already installed, it doesn't show any error in
terminal (I run it from terminal).
Can I send you the fml client and you try it? Install it is ok, the problem
is when you want run the client. It's little, I will send you for mail, to
Finocchiaro and Ben Klein. Thanks beforehand.

P.D.: I'm going to try using ethernet and not wifi interface ... If it
works, I will say it.

Cheers...
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[FatButtLarry]

Oliver,

I've found an ubuntu tutorial that suggests some winetricks installs.
These are generally windows applications needed by an application, and
winetricks makes the installation of them easier.

Try it out. The tutorial should be very similar in Debian. In the
interim I'll try the install in Ubuntu 8.10 and post my success.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967618

-Tres

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:30 PM, A. Tres Finocchiaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

Oliver,

Thanks for the detailed answers.  Did you happen to try Firefox for
Windows in Wine as well?

-Tres

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
I reply between lines ...

2009/3/7 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

If the application in question is relatively small, you may find
success in downloading a live cd that allows the installation of wine.
 I've done this with Ubuntu and Party Poker for a friend and with a
little bit of work he was playing his game on a live cd.  This was
enough to prove to him that wine could work for him, but more
importantly that the distro he's running works well with wine.  Fedora
is a good live cd to try as well.

ok, I've burned kubuntu cd live, and I've booted with that cd, I've
installed wine and my fml client, but it has the same error, it can't
connect with the fml server for updating it.

Debian is fairly popular (ubuntu is based off of it), so we should see
more people complaining if the latest unstable is incompatible with
wine.  What version are you running?  Version 5.0 stable of debian was
recently released so if the network issue is related to your unstable
build, you may find more success with the latest stable release.

I use Debian unstable, Debian Sid.

If the issue is wine-network related, you should notice the windows
version of Firefox has connectivity issues also.  I assume you don't
have any special proxy settings you are using, right?

no, I don't have proxy settings, I use direct connection.

Lastly, see if there are any errors when its trying to make its socket
connections when run from terminal?  You might just have a symlink or
dll out of place that the application is looking for.

when I run the fml client already installed, it doesn't show any error in
terminal (I run it from terminal).
Can I send you the fml client and you try it? Install it is ok, the problem
is when you want run the client. It's little, I will send you for mail, to
Finocchiaro and Ben Klein. Thanks beforehand.

P.D.: I'm going to try using ethernet and not wifi interface ... If it
works, I will say it.

Cheers...
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[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,

2009/3/8 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

Thanks for the detailed answers. Did you happen to try Firefox for
Windows in Wine as well? <[email protected]>

I've installed Firefox for Windows under Wine now, in my Debian Sid, and it
works perfectly.

Thanks.

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[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,

2009/3/8 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

I've found an ubuntu tutorial that suggests some winetricks installs.
These are generally windows applications needed by an application, and
winetricks makes the installation of them easier.

Try it out. The tutorial should be very similar in Debian. In the
interim I'll try the install in Ubuntu 8.10 and post my success.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967618

it is a howto for football manager, I'm with football manager live (this is
a online version of the game, a MMO game, like WoW, but football )
I've done all steps of that web, but I've the same error. The fml client
can't connect with the server for updating it.
I've asked in the fml webpage and there is people using wine correctly I
don't know why it doesn't work for me.
Thanks!

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[FatButtLarry]

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

2009/3/8 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

Thanks for the detailed answers.  Did you happen to try Firefox for
Windows in Wine as well?

I've installed Firefox for Windows under Wine now, in my Debian Sid, and it
works perfectly.

Oliver,

That tends to illustrate wine is working correctly. Seems to be an
issue with the FML Live game. I'll try it out.

-Tres

Thanks.

Cheers...

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[FatButtLarry]

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:15 PM, A. Tres Finocchiaro
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

2009/3/8 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

Thanks for the detailed answers.  Did you happen to try Firefox for
Windows in Wine as well?

I've installed Firefox for Windows under Wine now, in my Debian Sid, and it
works perfectly.

Oliver,

That tends to illustrate wine is working correctly.   Seems to be an
issue with the FML Live game.  I'll try it out.

-Tres

Thanks.

Cheers...

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Oliver,

I tried launching FML Live and it opens perfectly. I've found a few
ways to open it. First is to download the "setup.exe" from the
website. This worked first try and began downloading the game. The
download took about 10 minutes to complete. (17.6M)

Second was to download and extract "fml_full_win32.zip", which has its
own "fml_launcher.exe". The launcher seems to do the same thing as the
"setup.exe" by connecting to the Internet and downloading the latest
version.

Third was running "fml.exe" in the "data/bin/app_2959/" of the
extracted archive. My wine install is not vanilla so results may
vary, however, I noticed that the launcher -- as you stated -- isn't
verbose as to what it is doing. In fact, the launcher doesn't have
ANY output to the wine console. On the contrary, the "fml.exe" was
verbose! Here's my output:

tfino@crap:~$ wine '/home/tfino/Desktop/fml/Football Manager Live/data/bin/app_2959/fml.exe'
fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
fixme:dsalsa:IDsDriverBufferImpl_SetVolumePan (0x13dd78,0x13e7d8): stub

err:winebrowser:get_url_from_dde Unabled to retrieve URL from string L"\""
err:winebrowser:wmain Usage: winebrowser URL

The "get_url" message in the above console log seems to be in regards
to the "Sign Up" button, which appears to be broken. It depresses,
but doesn't do anything else. I did not sign up for an account so I
cannot confirm functionality. Since the client updates itself, I will
rule out connection issues on my platform.

Note also that when launching from the "fml.exe" it takes a few
minutes to load and appears unresponsive at first. This seems normal.
What version of the Ubuntu cd did you try? What type of Internet
connection do you have? Please post your success with this method.

Here's a screenshot: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2936/screenshotf.png

I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64. Wine 1.1.12, Kernel 2.6.27-11-generic.

This application actually works amazingly in Wine for me. I hope my
test helps you out Oliver. If this information is helpful to someone,
please copy it to the AppDB page for FML.

-Tres

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[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,
I reply between lines ...

2009/3/10 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

I tried launching FML Live and it opens perfectly. I've found a few
ways to open it. First is to download the "setup.exe" from the
website. This worked first try and began downloading the game. The
download took about 10 minutes to complete. (17.6M)

Second was to download and extract "fml_full_win32.zip", which has its
own "fml_launcher.exe". The launcher seems to do the same thing as the
"setup.exe" by connecting to the Internet and downloading the latest
version.

Third was running "fml.exe" in the "data/bin/app_2959/" of the
extracted archive. My wine install is not vanilla so results may
vary, however, I noticed that the launcher -- as you stated -- isn't
verbose as to what it is doing. In fact, the launcher doesn't have
ANY output to the wine console. On the contrary, the "fml.exe" was
verbose! Here's my output:

tfino@crap:~$ wine '/home/tfino/Desktop/fml/Football Manager

Live/data/bin/app_2959/fml.exe'

fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
fixme:dsalsa:IDsDriverBufferImpl_SetVolumePan (0x13dd78,0x13e7d8): stub

err:winebrowser:get_url_from_dde Unabled to retrieve URL from string

L"\""

err:winebrowser:wmain Usage: winebrowser URL

hey! It works for me too, with fml.exe, downloading the full client (under
my Debian Sid). My output is the next:

fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
fixme:dsalsa:IDsDriverBufferImpl_SetVolumePan (0x1321c8,0x132960): stub

The "get_url" message in the above console log seems to be in regards
to the "Sign Up" button, which appears to be broken. It depresses,
but doesn't do anything else. I did not sign up for an account so I
cannot confirm functionality. Since the client updates itself, I will
rule out connection issues on my platform.

Note also that when launching from the "fml.exe" it takes a few
minutes to load and appears unresponsive at first. This seems normal.
What version of the Ubuntu cd did you try? What type of Internet
connection do you have? Please post your success with this method.

Ubuntu 8.10 x86. I have a dsl router, a cisco router (877W), and connected
to the router, an access point, it offers dhcp to my client. I tried direct
connect using cable, from my laptop to the dsl router, and it doesn't work
(using fml_launcher.exe).
I will try ubunt 8.10 again with wine 1.1.12, I will comment with it later.

Here's a screenshot:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2936/screenshotf.png

I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64. Wine 1.1.12, Kernel 2.6.27-11-generic.

This application actually works amazingly in Wine for me. I hope my
test helps you out Oliver. If this information is helpful to someone,
please copy it to the AppDB page for FML.

Thank you very much Tres.

Cheers...
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[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,
I'm sorry for top posting ... firstly.
I've used Kubuntu 8.10 x86 + wine 1.1.12 + direct connection to my router,
using cable, but it fails.
Uhm ... I'm thinking that it can be that I have many ports forwarded in my
router, and I have some port that has conflict with fml client, I think ...
I have a ps3 and xbox, and I have some ports forwarded to the IP of ps3 and
xbox, and I have some services in my laptop, and I have forwarded some ports
to my laptop too. I don't find another explanation ... I have a modem and
another router (without forwarded ports configured ...). I will try it
Thanks!

Cheers...

2009/3/10 Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]>

Hello,
I reply between lines ...

2009/3/10 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

Oliver,

I tried launching FML Live and it opens perfectly. I've found a few
ways to open it. First is to download the "setup.exe" from the
website. This worked first try and began downloading the game. The
download took about 10 minutes to complete. (17.6M)

Second was to download and extract "fml_full_win32.zip", which has its
own "fml_launcher.exe". The launcher seems to do the same thing as the
"setup.exe" by connecting to the Internet and downloading the latest
version.

Third was running "fml.exe" in the "data/bin/app_2959/" of the
extracted archive. My wine install is not vanilla so results may
vary, however, I noticed that the launcher -- as you stated -- isn't
verbose as to what it is doing. In fact, the launcher doesn't have
ANY output to the wine console. On the contrary, the "fml.exe" was
verbose! Here's my output:

tfino@crap:~$ wine '/home/tfino/Desktop/fml/Football Manager

Live/data/bin/app_2959/fml.exe'

fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
fixme:dsalsa:IDsDriverBufferImpl_SetVolumePan (0x13dd78,0x13e7d8): stub

err:winebrowser:get_url_from_dde Unabled to retrieve URL from string

L"\""

err:winebrowser:wmain Usage: winebrowser URL

hey! It works for me too, with fml.exe, downloading the full client (under
my Debian Sid). My output is the next:

fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
fixme:dsalsa:IDsDriverBufferImpl_SetVolumePan (0x1321c8,0x132960): stub

The "get_url" message in the above console log seems to be in regards
to the "Sign Up" button, which appears to be broken. It depresses,
but doesn't do anything else. I did not sign up for an account so I
cannot confirm functionality. Since the client updates itself, I will
rule out connection issues on my platform.

Note also that when launching from the "fml.exe" it takes a few
minutes to load and appears unresponsive at first. This seems normal.
What version of the Ubuntu cd did you try? What type of Internet
connection do you have? Please post your success with this method.

Ubuntu 8.10 x86. I have a dsl router, a cisco router (877W), and connected
to the router, an access point, it offers dhcp to my client. I tried direct
connect using cable, from my laptop to the dsl router, and it doesn't work
(using fml_launcher.exe).
I will try ubunt 8.10 again with wine 1.1.12, I will comment with it later.

Here's a screenshot:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2936/screenshotf.png

I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64. Wine 1.1.12, Kernel 2.6.27-11-generic.

This application actually works amazingly in Wine for me. I hope my
test helps you out Oliver. If this information is helpful to someone,
please copy it to the AppDB page for FML.

Thank you very much Tres.

Cheers...

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[FatButtLarry]

oliver,

thx for the update

-Tres

[Oliver aka v1k1ng0]

Hello,

2009/3/12 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

oliver,

thx for the update

-Tres

I've used my other router without forwarded ports configured, and it works!
I'm sorry for thinking that it was a problem of wine or the fml client.
I want to thank to Ben Klein and especially to A. Tres Finocchiaro. Thank
you very much!

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[FatButtLarry]

Not a problem!

Oliver,

Another thing worth mentioning is once in a while people try to run
non-private IPs on the internal network. This can cause similar
headaches. I'm glad we could help.

-Tres

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Oliver aka v1k1ng0 <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

2009/3/12 A. Tres Finocchiaro <[email protected]>

oliver,

thx for the update

-Tres

I've used my other router without forwarded ports configured, and it works!
I'm sorry for thinking that it was a problem of wine or the fml client.
I want to thank to Ben Klein and especially to A. Tres Finocchiaro. Thank
you very much!

Cheers...

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