WHY can't I make it work?

Svento · Post by **Svento** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:17 pm

I've installed, removed and re-installed Wine a number of times now, for I badly need ie to for some services being closed to Firefox 3.0. Once I managed to make an install that worked all the way, but it happened to be a "Wine 98" which isn't supported by the pages I need to view. I also tried to install from Synaptic and from some blogs as well as from some Ubuntu Wiki.

I do manage to install Wine properly and I can download and install IE7, but the browser can't be opened. The first times the install went all the way, only I couldn't start the browser, but now the install gets stuck until I quit it by shutting down the system.

Any theories? I'd be very thankful for some simple - very simple - instructions to fixing this problem. I don't know anything about, computers, programming or advanced Linux science, I just want access to some important pages that don't support Firefox.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:26 pm

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Svento <[email protected]> wrote:

I've installed, removed and re-installed Wine a number of times now, for I badly need ie to for some services being closed to Firefox 3.0. Once I managed to make an install that worked all the way, but it happened to be a "Wine 98" which isn't supported by the pages I need to view. I also tried to install from Synaptic and from some blogs as well as from some Ubuntu Wiki.

I do manage to install Wine properly and I can download and install IE7, but the browser can't be opened. The first times the install went all the way, only I couldn't start the browser, but now the install gets stuck until I quit it by shutting down the system.

Any theories? I'd be very thankful for some simple - very simple - instructions to fixing this problem. I don't know anything about, computers, programming or advanced Linux science, I just want access to some important pages that don't support Firefox.

Wine doesn't support native Internet Explorer...try ies4linux.

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-Austin

Svento · Post by **Svento** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:11 pm

Okay... I downloaded and installed IE successfully, but my Wine appears to be 98 instead of XP, although I've configured it to be XP. 98 doesn't work.

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:30 pm

Svento <[email protected]> wrote on February 14th:

Sent: Feb 14, 2009 6:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] WHY can't I make it work?

I've installed, removed and re-installed Wine a number of times now, for I badly need ie to for some services being closed to Firefox 3.0. Once I managed to make an install that worked all the way, but it happened to be a "Wine 98" which isn't supported by the pages I need to view. I also tried to install from Synaptic and from some blogs as well as from some Ubuntu Wiki.

I do manage to install Wine properly and I can download and install IE7, but the browser can't be opened. The first times the install went all the way, only I couldn't start the browser, but now the install gets stuck until I quit it by shutting down the system.

Any theories? I'd be very thankful for some simple - very simple - instructions to fixing this problem. I don't know anything about, computers, programming or advanced Linux science, I just want access to some important pages that don't support Firefox.

Is there a particular reason you need IE7? If not Firefox on Linux is your best alternative. Firefox can be installed in Wine if you follow the directions in the Applications Database.

James McKenzie

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:42 am

Svento wrote:Okay... I downloaded and installed IE successfully, but my Wine appears to be 98 instead of XP, although I've configured it to be XP. 98 doesn't work.

Wine does not support native IE period and of story. Wine has it's own "replacement".

ies4linux replace 1/3 of all Wine libraries and are not supported here. Ask their forum/mailing list if you have any issues.

Svento · Post by **Svento** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:04 am

vitamin wrote:
Svento wrote:Okay... I downloaded and installed IE successfully, but my Wine appears to be 98 instead of XP, although I've configured it to be XP. 98 doesn't work.
Wine does not support native IE period and of story. Wine has it's own "replacement".

ies4linux replace 1/3 of all Wine libraries and are not supported here. Ask their forum/mailing list if you have any issues.

I'm sorry, I didn't understand any of that. I know that the native IE isn't supported and I managed to download some ies4linux and made it work. Are you trying to say that there's yet some alternative, some special Wine-ie which is not the same as ies4linux.

I don't care the least what it's called or how they work or anything. There are some Swedish pages using electronic identification and they don't allow Firefox. I need an alternative, any alternative, that allows me to simulate Windows XP (which is required) and Internet Explorer. This Wine/ies4linux combination worked very well, but those Swedish pages recognized my Wine not as XP but as 98, so I couldn't download or install that e-id.

Gert van den Berg · Post by **Gert van den Berg** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:17 am

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Svento <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm sorry, I didn't understand any of that. I know that the native IE isn't supported and I managed to download some ies4linux and made it work. Are you trying to say that there's yet some alternative, some special Wine-ie which is not the same as ies4linux.

Wine has a basic IE replacement build in. It is based on the Gecko
engine, and the basic browser, works, but is not really suitable for
general use. Some details can be found here:
http://wiki.winehq.org/iexplore http://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko

I don't care the least what it's called or how they work or anything. There are some Swedish pages using electronic identification and they don't allow Firefox. I need an alternative, any alternative, that allows me to simulate Windows XP (which is required) and Internet Explorer. This Wine/ies4linux combination worked very well, but those Swedish pages recognized my Wine not as XP but as 98, so I couldn't download or install that e-id.

1. Complain to the site that they require you to buy expensive
software to use their site.
2. Try installing user-agent switcher in your Firefox.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 It allows you to
change the identification that Firefox sends to the server. If the
site does not actually require any IE only features (ActiveX /
VBScript are the common examples), it should work.
3. If that still does not work, try installing IE in Wine. IEs4Linux
might work or winetricks can be used to install IE6. For winetricks
info: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks

Gert

Svento · Post by **Svento** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:05 am

I have the IE Tab extention in Windows but it's not available for Linux.

Any way: There's no room for ideology right now. I think it's a bad thing that this plugin that I need doesn't work with Ff, and yes, I'd wish this problem could be dealt with, and that's the aspect that every discussion on this topic tends to land into... But the problem is that I need that e-id now because I use it on regular basis. On the Ubuntu forums people don't want to talk about actual solutions to the problem, but rather the rights and wrongs. And, yes, I've e-mailed those authorities and companies being part of the problem and begged them to fix Ff and/or Linux support, but until then I need to find a way to run IE and XP within Ubuntu.

To install that plugin I need Internet Explorer and Windows XP and I'm open to any solution. I've gone back to XP now only for that reason and I'm not at all happy using Windows. Okay, there's some kind of IE browser inside Wine? I'd like to try that one but I haven't found it. When I install those ies4linux:s I do get a functioning IE browser, but it seems to turn Wine into Windows 98 instead of XP and then the plugin doesn't work.

So if the solution is using ies4linux or Wine or whatever is egal but I must make it work and I hope someone here can help me.

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:03 pm

ies4linux not part of Wine and are NOT supported here.