[Solved] Wine doesnt show close to all my files/apps...?

[kwisatz]

Definitely a noob here to linux (Eeebuntu / Ubuntu) and using Wine to access some of my items on the WinXP boot...

I was looking around online and in the documentation but I didnt see anything relating to what I am experiencing, or at least didn't know how to ask the question...

Basically when I am browsing my C: drive (NTFS partition) I see only 'Program Files' and 'Windows' - none of the other folders or files which are there. Even in going into Program Files I see only 'Common' and 'Internet Explorer'. :/ Does this have to do with NTFS permissions or what am I not doing correctly?

What I did with Wine is:
1) used built-in Add/Remove Apps in Eeebuntu (read: Ubuntu) and added Wine v1.0.1
2) Go to Wine > Browse C: = files missing
3) Go to Wine > Applications = only 'Notepad' is listed

Thanks for any help... I've heard a lot about Wine, so I know there just be something I'm missing... especially being new to all this.

[John Drescher]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:26 AM, kwisatz <[email protected]> wrote:

Definitely a noob here to linux (Eeebuntu / Ubuntu) and using Wine to access some of my items on the WinXP boot...

I was looking around online and in the documentation but I didnt see anything relating to what I am experiencing, or at least didn't know how to ask the question...

Basically when I am browsing my C: drive (NTFS partition) I see only 'Program Files' and 'Windows' - none of the other folders or files which are there. Even in going into Program Files I see only 'Common' and 'Internet Explorer'. :/ Does this have to do with NTFS permissions or what am I not doing correctly?

What I did with Wine is:
1) used built-in Add/Remove Apps in Eeebuntu (read: Ubuntu) and added Wine v1.0.1
2) Go to Wine > Browse C: = files missing
3) Go to Wine > Applications = only 'Notepad' is listed

Thanks for any help... I've heard a lot about Wine, so I know there just be something I'm missing... especially being new to all this.

The C: you see with wine is not the C: that you boot windows. This is
a hidden folder in your linux partition. DO NOT try to make your C: in
wine point to the real C: that will corrupt your wine and also make
windows non bootable.

John

[kwisatz]

The C: you see with wine is not the C: that you boot windows. This is
a hidden folder in your linux partition. DO NOT try to make your C: in
wine point to the real C: that will corrupt your wine and also make
windows non bootable.

Oooh... you assume I even know what you're referring to. Definitely strong IT background with regards to Windows and Networking environment, but a noob with Ubuntu/Wine.

Basically, how do I run an application in c:\chrono\ when it isnt listed? With the wording 'Browse C:' it seems a misnomer... so I am not able to run programs found on my windows partition?

[John Drescher]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM, kwisatz <[email protected]> wrote:

John Drescher wrote:

The C: you see with wine is not the C: that you boot windows. This is
a hidden folder in your linux partition. DO NOT try to make your C: in
wine point to the real C: that will corrupt your wine and also make
windows non bootable.

Oooh... you assume I even know what you're referring to. Definitely strong IT background with regards to Windows and Networking environment, but a noob with Ubuntu/Wine.

Wine creates its own C: that is not the same drive that your windows data is on.

Basically, how do I run an application in c:\chrono\ when it isnt listed? With the wording 'Browse C:' it seems a misnomer... so I am not able to run programs found on my windows partition?

Although this can be done, you generally do not want to run programs
that are located on your windows partition in wine. You need to
install them again and use them in wine.

John

[Charity Abbott]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM, kwisatz <[email protected]> wrote:

John Drescher wrote:

The C: you see with wine is not the C: that you boot windows. This is
a hidden folder in your linux partition. DO NOT try to make your C: in
wine point to the real C: that will corrupt your wine and also make
windows non bootable.

Oooh... you assume I even know what you're referring to. Definitely strong IT background with regards to Windows and Networking environment, but a noob with Ubuntu/Wine.

Basically, how do I run an application in c:\chrono\ when it isnt listed? With the wording 'Browse C:' it seems a misnomer... so I am not able to run programs found on my windows partition?

Since you are using wine with an existing Windows install, you are
booting from your windows partition which has all of your files.
However, wine only shows you files in your
/home/(user_name)/.wine/drive_c
I've never played around with this setup, but I think that the Windows
folder and Program Files folder are completely separate from the
actual ones on your Windows partition. If you want to use a program
installed on your Windows partition, you will have to install it using
wine first before you can use it. Wine is not meant to access programs
installed on a windows partition. You could access the data on the
partition if you wanted to, but that is a completely separate thing
from the boot process. In fact, you wouldn't even need to boot from a
real windows partition to do that. You could use a regular wine
install.

[kwisatz]

Just found what I was looking for and it looks like John and Charity said the same thing... I was under the assumption that I could just run the applications directly from my Windows partition, but clearly this isn't the case... appears Wine does much more than what I originally thought.

If other search and find this question look to item #3.1 on http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-72731b2 ... 925ce16460

Thanks for helping!!

[austin987]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:03 AM, kwisatz <[email protected]> wrote:

Just found what I was looking for and it looks like John and Charity said the same thing... I was under the assumption that I could just run the applications directly from my Windows partition, but clearly this isn't the case... appears Wine does much more than what I originally thought.

It used to do that, a long time ago, but was just a heap of problems.
We disabled changing the C drive in winecfg because so many people
hosed windows installs.

Treat Wine like a new windows machine. Reinstall what you need fresh.
The advantage with wine is that you can separate apps by prefix, so
you can semi-sandbox each application (registry/settings wise, file
access is another story).

If other search and find this question look to item #3.1 on http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-72731b2 ... 925ce16460

Thanks for helping!!

--
-Austin

[James McKenzie]

kwisatz wrote:

Just found what I was looking for and it looks like John and Charity said the same thing... I was under the assumption that I could just run the applications directly from my Windows partition, but clearly this isn't the case... appears Wine does much more than what I originally thought.

If other search and find this question look to item #3.1 on http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-72731b2 ... 925ce16460

You can, however, use existing DATA. This makes it possible to test
applications that you know work under WindowsXP but may or may not
function properly under Linux/Wine.

Good luck with your endevour.

James McKenzie