How to get 1.0.1

edzell · Post by **edzell** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:01 pm

I'm new in Linux (Ubuntu 8.04) and pre-new in Wine. Apprently 1.0.1 is the latest stable release, but I can't find a way to get it by following any of the links on the WineHQ pages. I always end up at a page that's warning me I'll be downloading a beta version, even though I've clicked on a link that promises 1.0.1

All help welcome, but please don't point me to a tar.gz - I have enough to try & assimilate at present

Thanks
edzell

elexes · Post by **elexes** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:05 pm

http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.0.1

im in the same boat as yourself tho

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:14 pm

elexes <[email protected]>

Sent: Jan 21, 2009 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: How to get 1.0.1

http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.0.1

im in the same boat as yourself tho

Have you checked the Ubuntu fora for any ideas on how to get a specific version of software?

James McKenzie

Post by **dimesio** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:17 pm

edzell wrote:I'm new in Linux (Ubuntu 8.04) and pre-new in Wine. Apprently 1.0.1 is the latest stable release, but I can't find a way to get it by following any of the links on the WineHQ pages. I always end up at a page that's warning me I'll be downloading a beta version, even though I've clicked on a link that promises 1.0.1

All help welcome, but please don't point me to a tar.gz - I have enough to try & assimilate at present

It doesn't look like 1.0.1 packages were ever created for 8.04, but you can get 1.0 from the archives.
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
1.0.1 just added a handful of minor bugfixes; if you're not affected by any of the bugs on the list, 1.0 should work just as well.

Otherwise, just download the latest development version. Unless there is a regression affecting an app you want to run, you will get better performance from the newest version, and can achieve the same degree of stability as the "stable" branch by simply not upgrading unless you have to.

edzell · Post by **edzell** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:16 pm

elexes wrote:http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.0.1

im in the same boat as yourself tho

I guess you found that following the links from that url didn't get you to 1.0.1 either? Only to a page with the big beta warning?

edzell · Post by **edzell** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:33 pm

James Mckenzie wrote:elexes <[email protected]>
Sent: Jan 21, 2009 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: How to get 1.0.1

Have you checked the Ubuntu fora for any ideas on how to get a specific version of software?

James McKenzie

No, I came straight to winehq, imagining that would be the simplest way to get the most appropriate wine. Following the download links gets me this:

Warning: These are beta packages

The packages here are beta packages. This means they will periodically suffer from regressions, and as a result an update may break functionality in Wine.

If the latest stable release of Wine (currently Wine 1.0.1) works for you, then you may not want to use these beta packages.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:38 pm

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:33 PM, edzell <[email protected]> wrote:

James Mckenzie wrote:
elexes <[email protected]>

Sent: Jan 21, 2009 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Wine] Re: How to get 1.0.1

Have you checked the Ubuntu fora for any ideas on how to get a specific version of software?

James McKenzie

No, I came straight to winehq, imagining that would be the simplest way to get the most appropriate wine. Following the download links gets me this:

Warning: These are beta packages

The packages here are beta packages. This means they will periodically suffer from regressions, and as a result an update may break functionality in Wine.

If the latest stable release of Wine (currently Wine 1.0.1) works for you, then you may not want to use these beta packages.

In all honesty, use the development release, unless you know of some
regression that breaks it for you.

--
-Austin

edzell · Post by **edzell** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:41 pm

[/quote]
In all honesty, use the development release, unless you know of some
regression that breaks it for you.
--
-Austin[/quote]

Hi, Austin.

Thanks for the advice, but I have to say it sounds a bit like "Eat the mushroom you've been warned against unless you really know it will do you harm." As a newbie I'm still trying to figure out which apps I'll want to use and how to get ,install and evaluate them. Whether some version of wine will have "regressions" (what are they?) that will break something I try to use - or what sorts of frustration I'll be faced with trying to fix the break - is not anything I have a clue about. I don't see the point of risking that when a) I don't have to and b) I don't yet really know what I'm doing.

What I do know is that the winehq pages carry a warning against the latest releases and suggest I use 1.0.1 instead. So it's a mystery why I'm then unable to find it and am even being advised here, not to look for it. Are you saying the warning has no validity?

Sorry if this sounds argumentative, but no one has answered my question, which is - how do I get the version that the wine pages recommend me to use?

Cheers,
edzell

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:48 pm

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:41 PM, edzell <[email protected]> wrote:

In all honesty, use the development release, unless you know of some
regression that breaks it for you.
--
-Austin[/quote]

Hi, Austin.

Thanks for the advice, but I have to say it sounds a bit like "Eat the mushroom you've been warned against unless you really know it will do you harm." As a newbie I'm still trying to figure out which apps I'll want to use and how to get ,install and evaluate them. Whether some version of wine will have "regressions" (what are they?) that will break something I try to use - or what sorts of frustration I'll be faced with trying to fix the break - is not anything I have a clue about. I don't see the point of risking that when a) I don't have to and b) I don't yet really know what I'm doing.

What I do know is that the winehq pages carry a warning against the latest releases and suggest I use 1.0.1 instead. So it's a mystery why I'm then unable to find it and am even being advised here, not to look for it. Are you saying the warning has no validity?

Sorry if this sounds argumentative, but no one has answered my question, which is - how do I get the version that the wine pages recommend me to use?

Cheers,
edzell
[/quote]
I understand the predicament, but as an experienced Wine user and
developer, I can tell you that you should be using the development
release. It has support for more programs/functions. Stable is good
for you if you don't ever want things to change, and your program
works great in 1.0.1.

That said, if you really want 1.0.1 that badly, you'd have to ask the
package maintainer for Ubuntu (Scott). WineHQ doesn't actually build
any packages, we rely on volunteers to do that. Someone said you that
there's a 1.0.0 for your distribution, use that. The differences
between 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 are minor (translation updates and a few minor
bug fixes that you're unlikely to notice).

--
-Austin

John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:49 pm

Thanks for the advice, but I have to say it sounds a bit like "Eat the mushroom you've been warned against unless you really know it will do you harm." As a newbie I'm still trying to figure out which apps I'll want to use and how to get ,install and evaluate them. Whether some version of wine will have "regressions" (what are they?) that will break something I try to use - or what sorts of frustration I'll be faced with trying to fix the break - is not anything I have a clue about. I don't see the point of risking that when a) I don't have to and b) I don't yet really know what I'm doing.

What I do know is that the winehq pages carry a warning against the latest releases and suggest I use 1.0.1 instead. So it's a mystery why I'm then unable to find it and am even being advised here, not to look for it. Are you saying the warning has no validity?

To me it's a question of what is better an incomplete "stable" version
wine that was created months ago that is known to have bugs or a
version of wine that has fixed some of the bugs in the "stable"
version and made it more complete but may have a few more unknown bugs
added?

Joh

Post by **dimesio** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:26 pm

edzell wrote: Sorry if this sounds argumentative, but no one has answered my question, which is - how do I get the version that the wine pages recommend me to use?

If your distro doesn't provide packages, you have to build it from source.

edzell · Post by **edzell** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:54 pm

austin987 wrote:On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:41 PM, edzell <[email protected]> wrote:
Someone said you that
there's a 1.0.0 for your distribution, use that.
--
-Austin

Thanks, I'm doing that. Somehow missed it before. Maybe I'll update later. There's just too much here I don't understand, including the actual meanings of some of the words that are used. I'm 71, didn't grow up with any of this stuff and I don't learn like I used to.

Edit: (whine & sob '

')

Is a development version a beta release? Always? Sometimes?

Thanks,
edzell

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:58 pm

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:54 PM, edzell <[email protected]> wrote:

austin987 wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:41 PM, edzell <[email protected]> wrote:
Someone said you that
there's a 1.0.0 for your distribution, use that.
--
-Austin
Thanks, I'm doing that. Somehow missed it before. Maybe I'll update later. There's just too much here I don't understand, including the actual meanings of some of the words that are used. I'm 71, didn't grow up with any of this stuff and I don't learn like I used to.

Is a development version a beta release? Always? Sometimes?

Thanks,
edzell

Sorta...Wine's a bit different. We didn't have a stable release for 15
years til this past June.

Development releases were the normal releases, so sorta betas. They
get the new features, etc. Stable versions are essentially frozen. And
with the speed at which Wine develops, it's best to use the
development release, unless you've got a regression.

--
-Austin

IneedAname · Post by **IneedAname** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:25 pm

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:01:54 -0600
"edzell" <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm new in Linux (Ubuntu 8.04) and pre-new in Wine. Apprently 1.0.1 is the latest stable release, but I can't find a way to get it by following any of the links on the WineHQ pages. I always end up at a page that's warning me I'll be downloading a beta version, even though I've clicked on a link that promises 1.0.1

Wine 1.0.1 is in hardy-updates repo.
To set it you may need to use "Force version" in "Package -> Force version"