program wont run problem with nethasp protection

izar · Post by **izar** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:58 pm

i have installed a clean copy of ubuntu 8.10 64bit
i installed a program called the Bar Ilan Responsa Project which uses a license from a local network server, using wine.
this program works perfectly for my friend who has ubuntu 8.10 32bit.
alas, when i try running the program i always get the message: "no answer from NetHasp license manager (15)"
(this is the error you get in windows if you try running the program when you are not connected to the network)
(the first times i installed the program the installation didn't go well and a few dll files weren't installed. i found out that this happened because i was trying to install from a location on my old windows (ntfs) partition. this was fixed when i copied the original installation folder to my ext3 partition, and installed from there)

i thought the cause might be the 64bit OS, so i removed it and installed kubuntu 8.10 32bit instead.
when that didn't work, i installed gnome and tried installing and running the program from there. didn't help.

i tried doing this both in wine 1.0.1 and 1.1.9 (which both work for my friend)
i also installed various packages such as:
winbind, smbfs, ntlm, cabextract (for ies4linux), samba...
i also tried switching windows versions in winecfg.
we copied the entire .wine folder form my friends computer to mien, and tried running the program from there.

as you can assume, non of this helped.

we tried comparing the output we get in terminal when running the program.
this is my friends output (which works):

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  :~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ResponsaCD14$ env LANG=he_IL.utf8 WINEPREFIX="/home/a/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE" 
  wine: Unhandled privileged instruction at address 0x451e1a (thread 0014), starting debugger... 
  Unhandled exception: privileged instruction in 32-bit code (0x00451e1a). 
  Register dump: 
    CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b 
    EIP:00451e1a ESP:7ec1c6d8 EBP:00451e1a EFLAGS:00010206(   - 00      - RIP1) 
    EAX:00000000 EBX:7eea3ff4 ECX:7ec1c964 EDX:00000000 
    ESI:004500c8 EDI:004f2420 
  Stack dump: 
  0x7ec1c6d8:  004de662 7ec1c6e8 00000246 004500c8 
  0x7ec1c6e8:  7ec1c988 7eea1f37 7eea4500 7ec1c964 
  0x7ec1c6f8:  00114080 00000000 00113f38 7ec1c974 
  0x7ec1c708:  00040002 00000000 00000000 7eea4500 
  0x7ec1c718:  00340014 7b8b7ff4 00010000 7ec1c96c 
  0x7ec1c728:  7ec1c964 7eea2a2a 7ec1c978 7ec1c974 
  Backtrace: 
  =>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a) 
  0x00451e1a: movl   %cr4,%esi 
  Modules: 
  Module   Address         Debug info   Name (29 modules) 
  PE     450000-  4f7400   Export          hardlock.sys 
  ELF   7b800000-7b940000   Deferred        kernel32<elf> 
    \-PE   7b820000-7b940000   \               kernel32 
  ELF   7bc00000-7bcac000   Deferred        ntdll<elf> 
    \-PE   7bc10000-7bcac000   \               ntdll 
  ELF   7bf00000-7bf04000   Deferred        <wine-loader> 
  ELF   7eaf7000-7eb0d000   Deferred        hal<elf> 
    \-PE   7eb00000-7eb0d000   \               hal 
  ELF   7ec1e000-7ec32000   Deferred        libresolv.so.2 
  ELF   7ec47000-7ec67000   Deferred        iphlpapi<elf> 
    \-PE   7ec50000-7ec67000   \               iphlpapi 
  ELF   7ec67000-7ecce000   Deferred        rpcrt4<elf> 
    \-PE   7ec70000-7ecce000   \               rpcrt4 
  ELF   7eddf000-7ee19000   Deferred        ntoskrnl<elf> 
    \-PE   7edf0000-7ee19000   \               ntoskrnl 
  ELF   7ee19000-7ee6e000   Deferred        advapi32<elf> 
    \-PE   7ee30000-7ee6e000   \               advapi32 
  ELF   7ee6e000-7ee87000   Deferred        libnsl.so.1 
  ELF   7ee87000-7ee90000   Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2 
  ELF   7ee90000-7eea5000   Deferred        winedevice<elf> 
    \-PE   7eea0000-7eea5000   \               winedevice 
  ELF   7efc5000-7efeb000   Deferred        libm.so.6 
  ELF   7eff4000-7f000000   Deferred        libnss_files.so.2 
  ELF   b7c12000-b7c1d000   Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2 
  ELF   b7c1e000-b7c22000   Deferred        libdl.so.2 
  ELF   b7c22000-b7d80000   Deferred        libc.so.6 
  ELF   b7d81000-b7d9a000   Deferred        libpthread.so.0 
  ELF   b7daf000-b7ee6000   Deferred        libwine.so.1 
  ELF   b7ee8000-b7f05000   Deferred        ld-linux.so.2 
  Threads: 
  process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex) 
  00000008 
      00000009    0 
  0000000a 
      0000000b    0 
  0000000c 
      00000013    0 
      00000012    0 
      0000000e    0 
      0000000d    0 
  0000000f (D) c:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe 
      00000014    0 <== 
      00000011    0 
      00000010    0 
  Backtrace: 
  =>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a) 
  fixme:wtsapi:WTSQuerySessionInformationA Stub (nil) 0xffffffff 4 0x32fbd8 0x32fbcc 
  fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"0000040d", 0101: stub! 
  fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_ActivateKeyboardLayout (nil), 0100: stub! 
  fixme:bidi:mirror stub: mirroring of characters not yet implemented 
  fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub 
  fixme:font:WineEngRemoveFontResourceEx :stub

this is my output (which dosn't work):

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  avi@avi-laptop:~$ env LANG="he_IL.UTF-8" WINEPREFIX="/home/avi/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE"                                                  
  Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/avi', starting in the Windows directory.                                                  
  wine: Unhandled privileged instruction at address 0x451e1a (thread 0014), starting debugger...                                                                  
  Unhandled exception: privileged instruction in 32-bit code (0x00451e1a).        
  Register dump:                                                                  
    CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b                                
    EIP:00451e1a ESP:7ec2d908 EBP:00451e1a EFLAGS:00010202(   - 00      - -RI1)    
    EAX:00000000 EBX:7ee74ff4 ECX:7ec2d9b4 EDX:00000000                            
    ESI:00450000 EDI:004f2420                                                      
  Stack dump:                                                                      
  0x7ec2d908:  004de662 7ec2d918 00000246 00450000                                
  0x7ec2d918:  7ec2d9d8 7ee72f79 7ee75480 7ec2d9b4                                
  0x7ec2d928:  001110c0 00000000 00111060 7ec2d9c4                                
  0x7ec2d938:  fc11c0a7 00110f28 00110014 00120000                                
  0x7ec2d948:  7bc42cfd 7bc8aff4 7ee75480 7ec2d9bc                                
  0x7ec2d958:  7ec2d9b4 7ec2d998 7ee7382a 7ec2d9c8                                
  Backtrace:                                                                      
  =>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a)                            
  0x00451e1a: movl        %cr4,%esi                                                
  Modules:                                                                        
  Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (31 modules)                
  PE        450000-  4f7400       Export          hardlock.sys                    
  ELF     7b800000-7b93d000       Deferred        kernel32<elf>                    
    \-PE  7b820000-7b93d000       \               kernel32                        
  ELF     7bc00000-7bca7000       Deferred        ntdll<elf>                      
    \-PE  7bc10000-7bca7000       \               ntdll                            
  ELF     7bf00000-7bf04000       Deferred        <wine-loader>                    
  ELF     7ea9c000-7eab2000       Deferred        hal<elf>                        
    \-PE  7eaa0000-7eab2000       \               hal                              
  ELF     7eab2000-7eb1e000       Deferred        msvcrt<elf>                      
    \-PE  7eac0000-7eb1e000       \               msvcrt                          
  ELF     7ec2f000-7ec43000       Deferred        libresolv.so.2                  
  ELF     7ec43000-7ec62000       Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>                    
    \-PE  7ec50000-7ec62000       \               iphlpapi                        
  ELF     7ec62000-7ecc5000       Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>                      
    \-PE  7ec70000-7ecc5000       \               rpcrt4                          
  ELF     7edd6000-7ee0e000       Deferred        ntoskrnl<elf>                    
    \-PE  7ede0000-7ee0e000       \               ntoskrnl                        
  ELF     7ee0e000-7ee61000       Deferred        advapi32<elf>                    
    \-PE  7ee20000-7ee61000       \               advapi32                        
  ELF     7ee61000-7ee76000       Deferred        winedevice<elf> 
    \-PE  7ee70000-7ee76000       \               winedevice 
  ELF     7ee76000-7ee8f000       Deferred        libnsl.so.1 
  ELF     7ee8f000-7ee98000       Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2 
  ELF     7efc9000-7efef000       Deferred        libm.so.6 
  ELF     7eff4000-7f000000       Deferred        libnss_files.so.2 
  ELF     b7ca1000-b7cac000       Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2 
  ELF     b7cad000-b7cb1000       Deferred        libdl.so.2 
  ELF     b7cb1000-b7e0f000       Deferred        libc.so.6 
  ELF     b7e10000-b7e29000       Deferred        libpthread.so.0 
  ELF     b7e3a000-b7f71000       Deferred        libwine.so.1 
  ELF     b7f73000-b7f90000       Deferred        ld-linux.so.2 
  Threads: 
  process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex) 
  00000008 
	  00000009    0 
  0000000a 
	  0000000b    0 
  0000000c 
	  00000013    0 
	  00000012    0 
	  0000000e    0 
	  0000000d    0 
  0000000f (D) C:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe 
	  00000014    0 <== 
	  00000011    0 
	  00000010    0 
  Backtrace: 
  =>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a) 
  fixme:wtsapi:WTSQuerySessionInformationA Stub (nil) 0xffffffff 4 0x32fbd8 0x32fbcc

(for some reason i get a simular messege when ever i run any program through wine, shuch as winecfg)

as you can see the to lines which have to do with "msvcrt". i tried replacing the msvcrt.dll file with one from windows xp and tried the same with one from vista. i also tried install playing with the override option in winecfg

finally me and my friend made a debug file with the command:

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:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ResponsaCD14$ WINEDEBUG=+relay,+seh,+tid env LANG=he_IL.utf8 WINEPREFIX="/home/avi/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE" &> ~/documents/debug.txt

(note that i am using wine 1.0.1 and my friend is currently using wine 1.1.9, so this might cause some difference. as noted oboe i tried also wine 1.1.9 and it still didn't work so this isn't the problem. if you wish i can create another debug file using wine 1.1.9 latter)
i named the files works (for my friend) and dosntwork (for mien) and attached them.
(we had to cut "works" because it was too big (32 mb) so we left about the number of lines in "dosntwork" and deleted the lines from there on)

we can't find any reason why the progarm works for my friend and not for me. can you please help?

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:08 am

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:58 PM, izar <[email protected]> wrote:

Backtrace:
=>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a)
fixme:wtsapi:WTSQuerySessionInformationA Stub (nil) 0xffffffff 4 0x32fbd8 0x32fbcc

(for some reason i get a simular messege when ever i run any program through wine, shuch as winecfg)

Have you installed any other programs? That looks like a hardware
driver, which won't work in wine.

--
-Austin

izar · Post by **izar** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:41 am

austin987 wrote:On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:58 PM, izar <[email protected]> wrote:

Backtrace:
=>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a)
fixme:wtsapi:WTSQuerySessionInformationA Stub (nil) 0xffffffff 4 0x32fbd8 0x32fbcc

(for some reason i get a simular messege when ever i run any program through wine, shuch as winecfg)
Have you installed any other programs? That looks like a hardware
driver, which won't work in wine.

--
-Austin

installed a driver for my wireless card and for my graphics card:
broadcom sta wireless driver
nvidia-glx-177, nvidia-177-kernel-source

though these lines appear also in my friends output

about the attachment i mentioned: how do i add one?

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:08 pm

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:41 AM, izar <[email protected]> wrote:

austin987 wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:58 PM, izar <[email protected]> wrote:

Backtrace:
=>1 0x00451e1a in hardlock.sys (+0x1e1a) (0x00451e1a)
fixme:wtsapi:WTSQuerySessionInformationA Stub (nil) 0xffffffff 4 0x32fbd8 0x32fbcc

(for some reason i get a simular messege when ever i run any program through wine, shuch as winecfg)

Have you installed any other programs? That looks like a hardware
driver, which won't work in wine.

--
-Austin
installed a driver for my wireless card and for my graphics card:
broadcom sta wireless driver
nvidia-glx-177, nvidia-177-kernel-source

though these lines appear also in my friends output

about the attachment i mentioned: how do i add one?

I mean windows drivers through wine.

--
-Austin

danielbu · Post by **danielbu** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:02 pm

I'm having a problem with the same family of programs - in my case the Judaic Treasures 2 (Otzrot Yisrael) program.

I installed wine, and some of the winetricks repository, and cabextract. The install runs with no problem, but upon running the program, nothing happens. I'm back in XP now, so I can't get a dump.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:09 pm

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:02 PM, danielbu <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm having a problem with the same family of programs - in my case the Judaic Treasures 2 (Otzrot Yisrael) program.

I installed wine, and some of the winetricks repository, and cabextract. The install runs with no problem, but upon running the program, nothing happens. I'm back in XP now, so I can't get a dump.

Are any of these programs downloadable?

--
-Austin

izar · Post by **izar** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:57 pm

danielbu wrote:I'm having a problem with the same family of programs - in my case the Judaic Treasures 2 (Otzrot Yisrael) program.

i don't really understand how this stuff works, but it is possible that your program cant work on wine. the only reason i am trying is that my program works perfectly for my friend, who has the same disto as mien, and there seems no reason why it works for him and not for me.

austin987 wrote: I mean windows drivers through wine.

in this case the answer is absolutely negative (unless this specific program installed a driver for the license manager).

austin987 wrote: Are any of these programs downloadable?

my program cant be legally downloaded, and i don't wish to use an illegal version.

danielbu · Post by **danielbu** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:03 pm

no - these are programs designed to use a proprietary db (included on the cd) designed by Bar Ilan University, which is a db of the fulltext of an extensive (more or less, by which model) library of Jewish legal and homiletical material. It seems to run in a simple windows shell, but I don't know if it's c, vb, c++ or what...

In my case, there is no hasp, there is just a cd. Under wine, now updated to 1.1.10, the installer runs fine, but the program doesn't even address the cd drive. I get a clock on the mouse icon for about 30 sec, then a button on the bottom bar saying "Starting Judaic Treasures", and then nothing.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:42 am

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM, izar <[email protected]> wrote:

danielbu wrote:
I'm having a problem with the same family of programs - in my case the Judaic Treasures 2 (Otzrot Yisrael) program.

i don't really understand how this stuff works, but it is possible that your program cant work on wine. the only reason i am trying is that my program works perfectly for my friend, who has the same disto as mien, and there seems no reason why it works for him and not for me.

austin987 wrote:
I mean windows drivers through wine.

in this case the answer is absolutely negative (unless this specific program installed a driver for the license manager).

Possible, what licensing manager does it use? Any copy protection
(safedisc, etc.)?

austin987 wrote:
Are any of these programs downloadable?

my program cant be legally downloaded, and i don't wish to use an illegal version.

Perfectly understandable. I was looking for a download so others could
test it and offer advice

.

--
-Austin

izar · Post by **izar** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:29 pm

austin987 wrote: Possible, what licensing manager does it use? Any copy protection
(safedisc, etc.)?

yes there is a license manager called netHasp made by alladin company.
(i looked in there site but i wasnt able to figure if they have an apropriate driver for me)

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:43 pm

izar wrote:
austin987 wrote: Possible, what licensing manager does it use? Any copy protection
(safedisc, etc.)?
yes there is a license manager called netHasp made by alladin company.
(i looked in there site but i wasnt able to figure if they have an apropriate driver for me)

Even if this driver doesn't talk to USB device directly it might be some of their "unti-debugger" protection. In either case, if it doesn't load now on Wine, there isn't much you can do.

izar · Post by **izar** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:39 am

do you see any possible reason why this problem ocurs only on my computer and not on my friend's (as noted in the first post)?

izar · Post by **izar** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:46 am

here is a link to the attachment i mentioned:
http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php? ... 1229643200
it contains the debug file from my computer (named "doesntwork") and form my friends computer (named "works)

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:42 am

this is my friends output (which works):

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  :~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ResponsaCD14$ env LANG=he_IL.utf8 WINEPREFIX="/home/a/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE"

this is my output (which dosn't work):
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@avi-laptop:~$ env LANG="he_IL.UTF-8" WINEPREFIX="/home/avi/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE"

Your friend is running it from the program directory. You aren't.
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-3b297df ... b8edc21619

danielbu · Post by **danielbu** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:49 am

I seem to have a much more basic problem than ivar - I ran my program in winedbg and got this:

me@my-computer:~$ winedbg judaica2
fixme:ole:DllRegisterServer stub
err:rundll32:WinMain Unable to load L"-s"
Couldn't start process 'judaica2 '

So it seems to me that my problem is at a lower level - eg. the DllRegisterServer is missing something. Any suggestions?

Happy Holidays[/quote]

James McKenzie · Post by **James McKenzie** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:22 pm

danielbu wrote:

I seem to have a much more basic problem than ivar - I ran my program in winedbg and got this:

me@my-computer:~$ winedbg judaica2
fixme:ole:DllRegisterServer stub
err:rundll32:WinMain Unable to load L"-s"
Couldn't start process 'judaica2 '

So it seems to me that my problem is at a lower level - eg. the DllRegisterServer is missing something. Any suggestions?

Happy Holidays

[/quote]Merry Christmas, first off.

Second, you have been told what to do to troubleshoot the problem. Open
terminal, change directories to the directory where the program is and
then run it from there like this:

Cd $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/<directory where program is>
wine <name of program executible> >/tmp/<log file> 2>&1

This will save any output from the program into the <log file> in the
tmp directory when running the program.

If the program still fails to run, there is a bigger problem and that
may be a borked installation of Wine.

James McKenzie

danielbu · Post by **danielbu** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:41 pm

Thanks, James.

The result from what you proposed is

wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\JUDAICA2.exe": Module not found

So I guess that I should start again. Is there some sure fire way to wipe my wine installation so that I can reinstall it right?

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, A Delightful Solstice, etc.

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:55 am

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, danielbu <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, James.

The result from what you proposed is

wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\JUDAICA2.exe": Module not found

Then you're not in the correct directory.

So I guess that I should start again. Is there some sure fire way to wipe my wine installation so that I can reinstall it right?

$ rm -rf ~/.wine

--
-Austin

izar · Post by **izar** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:35 am

dimesio wrote:
this is my friends output (which works):
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  :~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ResponsaCD14$ env LANG=he_IL.utf8 WINEPREFIX="/home/a/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE" 
this is my output (which dosn't work):
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@avi-laptop:~$ env LANG="he_IL.UTF-8" WINEPREFIX="/home/avi/.wine" wine "C:\PROG~FBU\RESP~MT1\RESPONSA.EXE"
Your friend is running it from the program directory. You aren't.
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-3b297df ... b8edc21619

you are right. my friend also said that the program won't run if he didn't cd first to the program's directory.
but i have tried several times doing this too, and it didn't help.

izar · Post by **izar** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:52 am

ok i give up
also i give up linux because i need responsa running on my computer and i cant do without it.

izar · Post by **izar** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:23 am

if anyone ever serches here for using responsa in linux then you should know that:
it works!
for more info look here:
http://www.whatsup.org.il/index.php?nam ... highlight=

jasonrubenstein · Post by **jasonrubenstein** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:51 pm

Izar - I've just come to this discussion. That's very encouraging, but I can't figure out the bottom-line take-away from the link you posted to get Bar Ilan running myself with WINE.

Thanks,
Jason