How to install Wine-1.1.7 on Ubuntu 7.10

Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:19 pm

I've downloaded Wine 1.1.7 and unzipped it onto my desktop.
I've printed out the readme file and have followed the quick start by running ./tools/wineinstall (I'm doing all this by mouseclicks - no terminal).
A dialog box flashes and then nothing happens.
I can't stop this dialog box long enough to see if there is an error msg, so I don't know what is happening, except I can't seem to install the app.
Any help would be appreciated.

David Griffith · Post by **David Griffith** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:25 pm

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Justterrible wrote:

I've downloaded Wine 1.1.7 and unzipped it onto my desktop.
I've printed out the readme file and have followed the quick start by running ./tools/wineinstall (I'm doing all this by mouseclicks - no terminal).
A dialog box flashes and then nothing happens.
I can't stop this dialog box long enough to see if there is an error msg, so I don't know what is happening, except I can't seem to install the app.
Any help would be appreciated.

Do you really want to compile it yourself? Add the following lines to
/etc/apt/sources.list:

# Wine
deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main
deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main

Then do "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install wine"

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Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:51 pm

That would re-download the package I've already got.
Is there no way to install a package/app/source/ without the package manager?

There is no documentation or how to I can find on installing this apart from the Readme file in the root dir of the wine 1.17 folder.
Wineinstall doesn't seem to work.
I'm reluctant to try the alternative due to my inexperience.

Any other help? Or should I just re-download it?

Thanks

David Griffith · Post by **David Griffith** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 am

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Justterrible wrote:

That would re-download the package I've already got.
Is there no way to install a package/app/source/ without the package manager?

There is no documentation or how to I can find on installing this apart from the Readme file in the root dir of the wine 1.17 folder.
Wineinstall doesn't seem to work.
I'm reluctant to try the alternative due to my inexperience.

Any other help? Or should I just re-download it?

I suspect you downloaded the source. By default apt-get downloads a
compiled package. Just let apt-get do its work.

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austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:23 am

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Justterrible
<[email protected]> wrote:

That would re-download the package I've already got.
Is there no way to install a package/app/source/ without the package manager?

Yes, compiling, but that needs to be done in the terminal, not through
point and click.

If you want it easy, use apt-get. If you want to get your hands dirty,
compile it.

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Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:30 am

Thanks so far. I tried to paste the deb links you provided into sources list, but I don't have permissions to save the altered file.
Ubuntu told me I can't change the permissions (via the permissions tab on sources.list).
How do I do that?

Thanks

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:33 am

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Justterrible
<[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks so far. I tried to paste the deb links you provided into sources list, but I don't have permissions to save the altered file.
Ubuntu told me I can't change the permissions (via the permissions tab on sources.list).
How do I do that?

Thanks

Edit it as root (using sudo)

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Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:10 am

Must have a syntax error. I get:

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peter@peter-desktop:/etc/apt$ sudo edit sources.list
Warning: unknown mime-type for "sources.list" -- using "application/*"

So how do I tell it to use application 'sources.list' or whatever it needs to edit it?

Thanks

I managed to get wineinstall to partially work, but I got a config error. The log didn't help me.
I don't really understand why it is so hard to install a downloaded app!

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peter@peter-desktop:~/Desktop/wine-1.1.7/tools$ bash wineinstall
Wine Installer v1.0

Running configure...

checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... 
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

Configure failed, aborting install.

So even though I got (finally after 3 hrs) to get the wineinstall to run, it came up with an error.
Any clues?
Thanks

Tlarhices · Post by **Tlarhices** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:18 am

Justterrible wrote:Must have a syntax error. I get:
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peter@peter-desktop:/etc/apt$ sudo edit sources.list
Warning: unknown mime-type for "sources.list" -- using "application/*"
So how do I tell it to use application 'sources.list' or whatever it needs to edit it?

Thanks

Try with :

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gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

It will start gedit (gnome editor) with root privilege (given graphically by gksudo)

Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:07 am

Thank you. That worked - It's downloading it again

I should state that as a Windows user migrating to Linux, and getting Wine 1.1.7 off a respectable download site (APC) and already having the uncompressed folder on my desktop, I found it very frustrating to just try to get it to compile, which failed anyway because the compiler couldn't create exe files! LOL

Trying to find a 'How To Install Wine' on this site turned up almost nothing useable. The 'Readme' file in the package was not helpful (it told me to use the DOS 'Run' command to install wineinstall instead of the bash command.)

So if you guys have any links that can point me to worked examples of basic Linux operation from the viewpoint of an experienced Windows user, then I'd be grateful.

Otherwise, maybe someone should re-write the readme file or maybe add a link to it for first time installers.

I don't want to depend on internet style package managers to install apps. I have dial-up only and I can get lots of Linux stuff of CD etc.
If Ubuntu is so hard to work with, then what distribution should I get to enable me to install off-line software?

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:41 am

The whole thing downloaded and nothing happened.

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Unpacking wine (from .../wine_0.9.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up binfmt-support (1.2.10) ...
 * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support                                                                                       [ OK ] 

Setting up libaudio2 (1.9-2) ...

Setting up wine (0.9.46-0ubuntu1) ...

Processing triggers for libc6 ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
peter@peter-desktop:/etc/apt$

Notice that it's downloaded version 0.9.46! And I've got a bright shiny new 1.1.7.

Any clues at all?[

jeffz · Post by **jeffz** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:00 am

Justterrible wrote:The whole thing downloaded and nothing happened.

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Unpacking wine (from .../wine_0.9.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up binfmt-support (1.2.10) ...
 * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support                                                                                       [ OK ] 

Setting up libaudio2 (1.9-2) ...

Setting up wine (0.9.46-0ubuntu1) ...

Processing triggers for libc6 ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
peter@peter-desktop:/etc/apt$

Notice that it's downloaded version 0.9.46! And I've got a bright shiny new 1.1.7.

Any clues at all?[

your apt troubles aside, you can only get Wine 1.0 through this method ( http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb ) if you're using Ubuntu 7.10. If you upgrade to 8.04 or newer then you have access to the latest development releases that are provided.

stimpak · Post by **stimpak** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:37 am

as jeffz said if you want the latest the mightiest wine you should upgrade your OS (ubuntu 7.10) to the latester version which is 8.04 (and by 10/30 8.10)

just connect at the internet and let it do its job - it will detect any new updates and inform you if you want them installed. you can find more info on how you do what at Google

after you've upgraded to 8.04 follow the link jeffz wrote, and you'd have the latest wine (also note that latest != best because something is fixed while something else gets broken)

Post by **dimesio** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:39 am

Justterrible wrote: Trying to find a 'How To Install Wine' on this site turned up almost nothing useable. The 'Readme' file in the package was not helpful (it told me to use the DOS 'Run' command to install wineinstall instead of the bash command.)

So if you guys have any links that can point me to worked examples of basic Linux operation from the viewpoint of an experienced Windows user, then I'd be grateful.

Otherwise, maybe someone should re-write the readme file or maybe add a link to it for first time installers.

http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages
http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
http://winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-gui ... ine-source

If Ubuntu is so hard to work with, then what distribution should I get to enable me to install off-line software?

I suspect Ubuntu does allow this, you just don't know how to do it. Try checking the Ubuntu wiki/forum for instructions. Whatever distro you use, you're going to have to learn how to use it.

Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:59 pm

Well, after all that I got 0.9 working.
Thanks for dealing with a newbie (<sniff> I didn't think you cared!), and I will wait for 8.10 now.
Thanks for the links. I'm sure they will be helpful.

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:51 pm

Ubuntu allows installing offline packages. They're usually .deb files and those can be added and installed in a very easy fashion by running the command gdebi-gtk (or some commandline magic with the dpkg command).

The problem is, where are you going to find offline versions of the latest deb package of Wine...?

Justterrible · Post by **Justterrible** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:12 pm

I've taken my medication so I'm calm now.

gdebi-gtk is my friend now.

I think I'll move away from Ubuntu altogether and try and find a more compatible linux. There are hundreds of flavours out there. I need a distro where I can compile source code as well as install ready to go packages.
So far I've had 2 recommended distros: Gentoo and Arch.
Is there a pure generic Linux out there?

Thanks[/i]

Daniel Kasak · Post by **Daniel Kasak** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:01 pm

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 21:12 -0500, Justterrible wrote:

I've taken my medication so I'm calm now.

gdebi-gtk is my friend now.

I think I'll move away from Ubuntu altogether and try and find a more compatible linux.

Hmmm. There's no such thing. There are less compatible distros. I was
under the impression that someone was maintaining a Wine repository for
Ubuntu. Isn't this still alive? Oh. I just re-read your subject line.
Why are you using 7.10? If you update to 8.04, you can use the
repository listed at: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb

There are hundreds of flavours out there. I need a distro where I can compile source code as well as install ready to go packages.
So far I've had 2 recommended distros: Gentoo and Arch.

If you're just migrating from Windows, then I would stay well clear of
'pure' Gentoo ... and I'm a long-time Gentoo user. You can try Sabayon
( a modded Gentoo with a binary package managemet system ), but to be
honest, it's not *quite* as polished as Ubuntu just yet. It's getting
there very quickly though.

If I were you I'd stick with Ubunutu. You've had some teething problems,
sure. I think this could be fixed if Ubuntu either installed development
libraries, or gave newbies an easy way to install them.

Is there a pure generic Linux out there?

Gentoo's pretty close to it - it's described as a meta-distribution. You
can go even further and try LinuxFromScratch. But seriously I don't
think you want to go that way if you've had problems installing things
with Ubuntu. What are you after exactly? Things to 'just work'? If yes,
I think Ubuntu is the way to go. If you have time spare for reading
wikis, playing with config files, and generally screwing around, then go
for Sabayon / Gentoo.

Dan

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:00 am

Justterrible wrote:I think I'll move away from Ubuntu altogether and try and find a more compatible linux. There are hundreds of flavours out there. I need a distro where I can compile source code as well as install ready to go packages.

OpenSUSE provides a daily Wine snapshot package in addition to the biweekly release packages, so if you want the latest git, you don't even have to compile it yourself. Their biweekly release package includes winetricks (don't know about the daily). They do this for all versions of openSUSE for which they still maintain repositories (currently goes back to 10.2), not just the newest one (currently 11.0). I've been using Wine on it for over a year, and have never had a single problem with either their packages or compiling Wine from git.