How do you make wine do real uninstalls?

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:37 pm

I have tried installing various GPS/topo map software suites on
four Fedora machines under wine. On three of them, the install claims to
succeed; the suite fails even to launch; I try to uninstall it; the
uninstall either admits failure, or pretends to succeed while leaving the
software still there and clickable (but, of course, not launchable).

On one, I then ran a Fedora search (beagle, I suppose) against
the filesystem, checking for any such software still there; found none;
did "yum remove wine" followed by "yum install wine" -- and found the new
wine still offering the worthless installs.

Sometimes, in fact, the install tries to *re*-install, even
though I have called it in the first place from wine's uninstall function.

I realize the fault is most likely in Windows (XPPro/SP2 here),
or in the software itself.

But even so, there must be a way for linux to trash the whole
b'ilin' and start over ....

--
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Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3
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vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:52 pm

Beartooth wrote:I try to uninstall it; the
uninstall either admits failure, or pretends to succeed while leaving the
software still there and clickable (but, of course, not launchable).

http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae5 ... af2e69b391

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:18 pm

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, vitamin wrote:

Beartooth wrote:
I try to uninstall it; the
uninstall either admits failure, or pretends to succeed while leaving
the software still there and clickable (but, of course, not
launchable).
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae5 ... af2e69b391

OK, I copied and pasted each of those commands onto my CLI; re-
launched the wine uninstaller; still saw all the stuff I had told it two
or three times to get rid of; told it again; with the two I had installed
directly from Garmin media, the button merely grayed itself out when
clicked.

This seems encouraging. I'll try logging clear out of Fedora and
looking again; I always have to do that, for instance, after editing /etc/
X11/xorg.conf (sometimes twice! I hate to edit that), and it may help.

If not, I'll try it again and then actually reboot. Stay tuned.

PS: one oddity. Trying to uninstall Microsoft.NET Framework 1.1
always gets me a message saying that its setup has ended prematurely, and
asking me to contact Product Support if it persists. (I have no idea how
that app ever got installed on that one machine in the first place.)

--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:40 pm

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:18:14 +0000, Beartooth wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, vitamin wrote:

[...]

http://wiki.winehq.org/

FAQ#head-9893ae50079ca7a959258f0bc9a17aaf2e69b391

OK, I copied and pasted each of those commands onto my CLI; re-
launched the wine uninstaller; still saw all the stuff I had told it two
or three times to get rid of; told it again; with the two I had
installed directly from Garmin media, the button merely grayed itself
out when clicked.

This seems encouraging. I'll try logging clear out of Fedora and
looking again; I always have to do that, for instance, after editing
/etc/ X11/xorg.conf (sometimes twice! I hate to edit that), and it may
help.

Another try, another failure. All four were still in the
uninstaller. After logging out and back in. (They were, at least, *not*
offered under programs any more.)

Rebooting -- the last ditch. Stay tuned.

--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:41 pm

Beartooth wrote:On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, vitamin wrote:

Beartooth wrote:
I try to uninstall it; the
uninstall either admits failure, or pretends to succeed while leaving
the software still there and clickable (but, of course, not
launchable).
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae5 ... af2e69b391
OK, I copied and pasted each of those commands onto my CLI; re-
launched the wine uninstaller; still saw all the stuff

It doesn't work most of the time. To remove _everything_ installed under Wine remove $WINEPREFIX directory (default ~/.wine).

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:58 pm

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:39:47 +0000, Beartooth wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:18:14 +0000, Beartooth wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, vitamin wrote:
[...]
http://wiki.winehq.org/
FAQ#head-9893ae50079ca7a959258f0bc9a17aaf2e69b391
OK, I copied and pasted each of those commands onto my CLI; re-
launched the wine uninstaller; still saw all the stuff I had told it
two or three times to get rid of; told it again; with the two I had
installed directly from Garmin media, the button merely grayed itself
out when clicked.

This seems encouraging. I'll try logging clear out of Fedora and
looking again; I always have to do that, for instance, after editing
/etc/ X11/xorg.conf (sometimes twice! I hate to edit that), and it may
help.
Another try, another failure. All four were still in the
uninstaller. After logging out and back in. (They were, at least, *not*
offered under programs any more.)

Rebooting -- the last ditch. Stay tuned.

The cat came back. Even after a reboot, wine uninstaller *still*
thinks those four things are there.

--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:17 pm

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:57:59 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
[....]

Another try, another failure. All four were still in the
uninstaller. After logging out and back in. (They were, at least, *not*
offered under programs any more.)

Rebooting -- the last ditch. Stay tuned.
The cat came back. Even after a reboot, wine uninstaller *still*
thinks those four things are there.

Thinking that at least the absence of any offerings from wine >
programs meant something, I put TopoUSA2008 into a USB DVD drive plugged
directly into the same machine (the Thinkpad30, which has a serial port,
and runs F8). I told it to install. It gave me a choice of remove or
repair -- *not* install. Having tried repair last time it did that, and
failed, I told it remove. It started showing a graph telling how much it
was *adding*.

I used the workspace switcher to go to a terminal (already open),
did uname -a, went back -- and it froze. I force-killed it and tried
again. This time it finished quickly, telling me it had *repaired* the
app. But it demanded adobe, so I force-killed it again. It's not in the
program listing -- there is none.

--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.