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Zac Brown

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Post by Zac Brown »

Hi Steve,

What program is it. Let me try to install it in my copy of PCLinuxOS and we'll
see what I come up with.

And no, you don't have to change the subject.

-Zac

stevecarter wrote:
Hi Zac,

I'm back again with ongoing problems.

I have successfully installed the 1.0-rc4 version of Wine according to your script.

I have installed a simple Windows program (no .NET of anything like that) and the icon is in the menu and on the Desktop.

However, when I try to launch it the "Eggtimer" rotates for a short while but then nothing else happens.

How do I find out what has gone wrong?

Thanks

Stephen Carter

PS - Do I need to change the subject heading?



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Post by stevecarter »

Hi Zac,

It is a genealogy program called Brother's Keeper, and you can get it here:

http://www.bkwin.org/bksetupE.EXE

Best regards,

Stephen Carter
Zac Brown

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Post by Zac Brown »

Hi Steve,

I tried it out. Looks like its missing a dll. The way you would test this is by
doing something like:

"wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Brother\'s\ Keeper\ 6/Bk6w.exe"

That will execute the program from command line. I don't know much about
MSVBVM60.dll but I *think* it has to do with MS's Visual Basic runtime (someone
correct me?).

As to how to fix that, you probably will have to find a native version of that
library.

-Zac

stevecarter wrote:
Hi Zac,

I'm back again with ongoing problems.

I have successfully installed the 1.0-rc4 version of Wine according to your script.

I have installed a simple Windows program (no .NET of anything like that) and the icon is in the menu and on the Desktop.

However, when I try to launch it the "Eggtimer" rotates for a short while but then nothing else happens.

How do I find out what has gone wrong?

Thanks

Stephen Carter

PS - Do I need to change the subject heading?



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Which Wine Download?

Post by austin987 »

To list as well.

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Zac Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Steve,

I tried it out. Looks like its missing a dll. The way you would test this is
by doing something like:

"wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Brother\'s\ Keeper\ 6/Bk6w.exe"
Don't do this. cd to the directory first. DO NOT USE UNIX PATHS.
That will execute the program from command line. I don't know much about
MSVBVM60.dll but I *think* it has to do with MS's Visual Basic runtime
(someone correct me?).
Yes
As to how to fix that, you probably will have to find a native version of
that library.
$ wget kegel.com/wine/winetricks
$ sh winetricks vb6run
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Post by Bamm »

stevecarter wrote:Hi Zac,

I'm back again with ongoing problems.

I have successfully installed the 1.0-rc4 version of Wine according to your script.

I have installed a simple Windows program (no .NET of anything like that) and the icon is in the menu and on the Desktop.

However, when I try to launch it the "Eggtimer" rotates for a short while but then nothing else happens.

How do I find out what has gone wrong?

Thanks

Stephen Carter

PS - Do I need to change the subject heading?
Hi Stephen,

This means the installer worked fine, but the application itself is having problems running under Wine.

To know what error messages it sends, you must cd to the directory which you installed it, probably "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/some folder" and then run the program via the command line as "wine filename.exe" without the quotes.

The error messages will be seen in the console.


To Zac Brown,

My laptop uses Mandriva 2008, and although there are builds for it, I would like to experience how to compile Wine on it. I am more of a Linux user than a dev so these things are not yet within my skill level.

If it isn't too much of a bother for you I would love it if you could write me a script like what you did for Stephen.

Regards,
Bamm
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Re: Which Wine Download?

Post by Bamm »

austin987 wrote:$ wget kegel.com/wine/winetricks
$ sh winetricks vb6run
The full VB6 runtime is overkill. For almost all VB6 programs, you simply copy msvbvm60.dll into the system32 folder and it will work.

http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-f ... l?msvbvm60
Zac Brown

Which Wine Download?

Post by Zac Brown »

Hi Bamm,

If you can wait till Monday, I'll put it on my list of things to do. I don't
have access to a machine I can run Mandriva on to find the proper packages etc.

Cheers,

Zac

Bamm wrote:
stevecarter wrote:
Hi Zac,

I'm back again with ongoing problems.

I have successfully installed the 1.0-rc4 version of Wine according to your script.

I have installed a simple Windows program (no .NET of anything like that) and the icon is in the menu and on the Desktop.

However, when I try to launch it the "Eggtimer" rotates for a short while but then nothing else happens.

How do I find out what has gone wrong?

Thanks

Stephen Carter

PS - Do I need to change the subject heading?
Hi Stephen,

This means the installer worked fine, but the application itself is having problems running under Wine.

To know what error messages it sends, you must cd to the directory which you installed it, probably "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/some folder" and then run the program via the command line as "wine filename.exe" without the quotes.

The error messages will be seen in the console.


To Zac Brown,

My laptop uses Mandriva 2008, and although there are builds for it, I would like to experience how to compile Wine on it. I am more of a Linux user than a dev so these things are not yet within my skill level.

If it isn't too much of a bother for you I would love it if you could write me a script like what you did for Stephen.

Regards,
Bamm



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Which Wine Download?

Post by austin987 »

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Bamm <[email protected]> wrote:
austin987 wrote:
$ wget kegel.com/wine/winetricks
$ sh winetricks vb6run
The full VB6 runtime is overkill. For almost all VB6 programs, you simply copy msvbvm60.dll into the system32 folder and it will work.

http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-f ... l?msvbvm60





Some programs require the full vb6 runtime...the majority don't, but
some do, and winetricks automates it.
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Re: Which Wine Download?

Post by Bamm »

Zac Brown wrote:Hi Bamm,

If you can wait till Monday, I'll put it on my list of things to do. I don't
have access to a machine I can run Mandriva on to find the proper packages etc.

Cheers,

Zac
Thanks, Monday will be fine. My daughter will be having her 1st bday party on Sunday so I will not have time to play with Wine on that day. :)
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Post by stevecarter »

Zac, Bamm and others,

Thanks for the advice about the Visual Basic runtime files.

It worked! :D

What an absolutely superb forum this is; I only wish I had something to give back.

Peace and all good.

Stephen Carter
Zac Brown

Which Wine Download?

Post by Zac Brown »

stevecarter wrote:
Zac, Bamm and others,

Thanks for the advice about the Visual Basic runtime files.

It worked! :D

What an absolutely superb forum this is; I only wish I had something to give back.

Peace and all good.

Stephen Carter




Triaging is always welcome. So are bug reports :). We always need people to test
wine and find the bugs for us.

-Zac
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Debian & rc5 :- 'Permission denied'

Post by Island »

Zac, thanks for your guidance. I tried a couple of times to compile & install on Debian Etch. I tried (more or less) following Dan Kegel's 'dapper script', and your PCLinuxOS script, reaching 'Permission denied' using either approach. I also tried following the instructions in the 'readme' file in rc5, and hit the same result.

Just after you posted your suggestions, rc5 was released and so I decided to try to follow your advice, but with the rc5 release. Downloaded the rc5.bz2 to a drive with plenty of room, /mnt/hda3, unpacked it into '/wine-1.0.rc5' (I used this as a sub for the 'cur_wine' value in your script). I commented out some of your script, and adapted the second part, starting at the 'cd cur_wine' line, and saved it as 'islandwinebuild'. Here's the output:

island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3$ sh islandwinebuild.sh
islandwinebuild.sh: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
Done installing, wine is now located in ${INSTALL_PATH}.

The permissions on all the directories and files on /mnt/hda3 are rwx,rwx,rwx, fully recursively, though I notice that the non-executable files like text docs are only rw-,rw-,rw-. I used KDE's Konqueror to set these permissions, so perhaps it decides whether some things are executable or not.

Eager for a really difficult time, I looked at the readme in rc5! Very easy read, in fact, and makes compiling sound simple. So gave it a try. It advises running ./tools/wineinstall, Here's the output:

island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3$ cd wine-1.0-rc5
island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3/wine-1.0-rc5$ ./tools/wineinstall
bash: ./tools/wineinstall: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3/wine-1.0-rc5$

Having realised that the readme is not at all ferocious, I plucked up the courage to read further. It says:

"Run programs as "wine program". For more information and problem
resolution, read the rest of this file, the Wine man page, and
especially the wealth of information found at http://www.winehq.org.

I did read the rest of the file, but it didn't seem to help with the permission denied thing. I wondered if the comment meant that, to avoid 'permission denied' problems, I had to log on as 'wine program' before I could run the ./tools/wineinstall or the ./configure lines etc in your script. At the moment there is only 'root' and 'island' as users on this machine.

Nevertheless, I've learnt a lot, and certainly feel confident about having a another go at compiling. Much thanks to you, though, because your script sets out the basic sequence we have to go through, and the readme adds useful details.

regards, Island
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Re: Debian & rc5 :- 'Permission denied'

Post by vitamin »

Island wrote: island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3$ sh islandwinebuild.sh
islandwinebuild.sh: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
What filesystem is that /mnt/hda1? How is it mounted? With what options? Just post output of:

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mount | grep hda1
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Re: Debian & rc5 :- 'Permission denied'

Post by Island »

vitamin wrote: What filesystem is that /mnt/hda1? How is it mounted? With what options? Just post output of:

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mount | grep hda1
Vitamin - you do have a knack for insight.

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island@islandinthesun:~$ mount | grep hda3
/dev/hda3 on /mnt/hda3 type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
island@islandinthesun:~$
Presumably, noexec, nosuid, and nodev more or less means:
No executing, not even as root, and don't even think about trying to develop anything here.

Learnt something else now. It's a good day, so far. I'll dig into fstab, man, and mount and see what I should set those to. I want to use hda3 as my working environment, because the main partition with Debian and my 'home' on is a bit tight.

regards, Island
Zac Brown

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Post by Zac Brown »

Island wrote:
Zac, thanks for your guidance. I tried a couple of times to compile & install on Debian Etch. I tried (more or less) following Dan Kegel's 'dapper script', and your PCLinuxOS script, reaching 'Permission denied' using either approach. I also tried following the instructions in the 'readme' file in rc5, and hit the same result.

Just after you posted your suggestions, rc5 was released and so I decided to try to follow your advice, but with the rc5 release. Downloaded the rc5.bz2 to a drive with plenty of room, /mnt/hda3, unpacked it into '/wine-1.0.rc5' (I used this as a sub for the 'cur_wine' value in your script). I commented out some of your script, and adapted the second part, starting at the 'cd cur_wine' line, and saved it as 'islandwinebuild'. Here's the output:

island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3$ sh islandwinebuild.sh
islandwinebuild.sh: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
Done installing, wine is now located in ${INSTALL_PATH}.

The permissions on all the directories and files on /mnt/hda3 are rwx,rwx,rwx, fully recursively, though I notice that the non-executable files like text docs are only rw-,rw-,rw-. I used KDE's Konqueror to set these permissions, so perhaps it decides whether some things are executable or not.

Eager for a really difficult time, I looked at the readme in rc5! Very easy read, in fact, and makes compiling sound simple. So gave it a try. It advises running ./tools/wineinstall, Here's the output:

island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3$ cd wine-1.0-rc5
island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3/wine-1.0-rc5$ ./tools/wineinstall
bash: ./tools/wineinstall: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
island@islandinthesun:/mnt/hda3/wine-1.0-rc5$

Having realised that the readme is not at all ferocious, I plucked up the courage to read further. It says:

"Run programs as "wine program". For more information and problem
resolution, read the rest of this file, the Wine man page, and
especially the wealth of information found at http://www.winehq.org.

I did read the rest of the file, but it didn't seem to help with the permission denied thing. I wondered if the comment meant that, to avoid 'permission denied' problems, I had to log on as 'wine program' before I could run the ./tools/wineinstall or the ./configure lines etc in your script. At the moment there is only 'root' and 'island' as users on this machine.

Nevertheless, I've learnt a lot, and certainly feel confident about having a another go at compiling. Much thanks to you, though, because your script sets out the basic sequence we have to go through, and the readme adds useful details.

regards, Island




Island,

Ah yes, the winebuild script included is good as well. I had forgotten about it
as I don't typically use it. Either way I'm glad you learned something from it :).

-Zac
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Re: Which Wine Download?

Post by [email protected] »

Zac,
I tried your PCLinuxOS script and I am getting the following error messages

configure: error: X development files not found. Wine will be built
without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need to install
development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
Use the --without-x option if you really want this.
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
Done installing, wine is now located in ${INSTALL_PATH}.

Any clues to what's causing this?

Jim
Zac Brown wrote:Hi Steve,

You can find the script for PCLinuxOS 2007 at
http://labs.zacbrown.org/doku.php?id=wi ... ildscripts.

Instructions are on the page as to how to run it. It will require some user
input, such as confirming installation of packages via apt-get. Please pay
attention to those warnings, especially if its warning you that you could be
damaging your system.

Let me know how it goes. I've tried the script on two separate installs and it
worked flawlessly both times.

-Zac

stevecarter wrote:
Zac Brown wrote:
If this is what you're interested in, I would be willing to detail that process
by installing and building wine myself and then writing a howto for it.

Let me know if that suits you better and I'll work on that later today.

Zac,

That is a tremendous gift that you are offering, and I would be thrilled to receive it.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Stephen Carter



John Drescher

Which Wine Download?

Post by John Drescher »

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:04 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Zac,
I tried your PCLinuxOS script and I am getting the following error messages

configure: error: X development files not found. Wine will be built
without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need to install
development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
Use the --without-x option if you really want this.
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
Done installing, wine is now located in ${INSTALL_PATH}.

Any clues to what's causing this?
Do you have the X windows development package installed?

John
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Re: Which Wine Download?

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John Drescher wrote:On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:04 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Zac,
I tried your PCLinuxOS script and I am getting the following error messages

configure: error: X development files not found. Wine will be built
without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need to install
development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
Use the --without-x option if you really want this.
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
Done installing, wine is now located in ${INSTALL_PATH}.

Any clues to what's causing this?
Do you have the X windows development package installed?

John
John,
I have x11-proto-devel &
x11-server-devel installed

Are there more?

Jim
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Re: Which Wine Download?

Post by [email protected] »

[email protected] wrote:
John Drescher wrote:On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:04 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Zac,
I tried your PCLinuxOS script and I am getting the following error messages

configure: error: X development files not found. Wine will be built
without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need to install
development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
Use the --without-x option if you really want this.
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
Done installing, wine is now located in ${INSTALL_PATH}.

Any clues to what's causing this?
Do you have the X windows development package installed?

John
John,
I have x11-proto-devel &
x11-server-devel installed

Are there more?

Jim
Finally got the compile to work. Had to setup up a repository pointing to "testing" then manually installed Libgcrypt & Libgnutls.

Also made three changes to Zac's script
1) Changed to version to 1.1.2
2) Changed the install path to where wine was installed on my system
3) Change the last statement so that the echo statement properly displays where wine is installed. There's a misplaced quote mark in that statement causing the ${INSTALL_PATH} statement to be treated as a literal versus a variable like it should.

Jim
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Post by gulch »

since http://www.blastwave.org/wine/ had down,
how can I download wine 1.1.2 for solaris?
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