Quicken Premier 2014 installs & runs but has graphical issue

[Mr. Octus]

Hello,
I'm trying to install Quicken Premier 2014 on Wine 1.8rc4. I believe I'm close just need a little help figuring out this last bug.

Here is a video showing off the issue (skip to 26 seconds if you want to avoid the loading time):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wyIG90BPpI

Notice that it loads the content but when I hover over the ribbon at the top everything vanishes, however, opening a window from the ribbon (like Preferences) brings everything back. You can also see that weird shadow overlay. This feels like a graphics issue and I think Quicken uses some kind of web browser to display the content in the window.

At first I assumed it was the libwine-gecko but it should be installed in my system and I have the msi in the /usr/share/wine/gecko directory. I then tried with d3dx9 assuming it was lacking that but does not seem to effect it. I still sometimes get those "Can't find HTML render, being disabled" messages, so I assume libwine-gecko is failing?

I do realize that .NET 4.0 is not considered supported but since I got farther then the last user's attempt (Black title screen. Black application screen.) in the AppDB:
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=29212

I figured things might have changed.

My Setup:
Distro: Debian Strech (2015-12-20)
Kernel: 4.2.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.2.6-3 (2015-12-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
GPU/Drivers: AMD Radeon 6950 2GB with Mesa 11.0.7-1
Wine: wine-1.8rc4
winetricks: 20140817 - sha1sum: fb1d7184dc186313cf26e1a65a8e6ff3c5fadc50
Mono: No mono installed
winearch: win32
wineprefix: ~/.wine-quicken-2014/

What I have tried/learned:

• .NET 4.0 will not install unless it's a 32bit prefix
• .NET 4.0 will not install if it's not on Windows XP (Win7 fails)
• Quicken will install BUT immediately crash if it's not on Windows 7 (so I install .NET before switching to `winetricks settings win7`)
• It does not seem to matter if d3dx9 & corefonts are installed
• It still seems to complain about HTML rendering even if I have the .msi in /usr/share/wine/gecko/ (.msi permissions are 755)
• Debian Stretch (testing) does not have libwine-gecko-xxx in the repo, is it bundled in wine* package?
• Installing the libwin-gecko.msi manually stops the error messages but I believe it does not really work. What I'm doing is installing in my prefix ~/.wine-quicken-2014/:

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cd ~/Downloads/
wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/wine/Wine%20Gecko/2.40/wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi
wine msiexec /i wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi

But that should not be needed since I have it in /usr/share/wine/gecko right?

Here is the full list of commands that work in order (don't put winetricks settings win7 before winetricks dlls dotnet40!)

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# Download the core packages
sudo apt-get install wine winetricks

# Install process
rm -rf ~/.wine-quicken-2014/
export WINEARCH=win32
export WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.wine-quicken-2014/
winecfg
winetricks dlls d3dx9
winetricks dlls dotnet40
winetricks fonts corefonts
winetricks fonts tahoma
winetricks settings fontsmooth=rgb
winetricks settings win7
cd ~/Downloads/
wine Quicken_Premier_2014_OLD_VERSION.exe

# Running Quicken
# Use taskset -c 0 to force wine on only 1 core, this will avoid quicken from
# randomly shutting down (other user's experience for past versions, can't test because I have not gotten that far)
export WINEARCH=win32
export WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.wine-quicken-2014/
taskset -c 0 wine "C:\Program Files\Quicken\qw.exe"

Does anyone have any advice?

[dimesio]

Are you using the Debian Wne packages or the WineHQ ones? If the former, try the latter. WineHQ does not package wine-gecko, so you will need to install that manually if you are using the WineHQ package.

[Mr. Octus]

I'm using the Debian package, should I try the WineHQ one: http://wiki.winehq.org/Debian ?

If I install from WineHQ then I need to do this as well?

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wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/wine/Wine%20Gecko/2.40/wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi
sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/wine/gecko
sudo mv wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi /usr/share/wine/gecko/ 

[dimesio]

Yes to both questions.

[Mr. Octus]

Hello
So I tried to to get the above working but ran into some problems, for whatever reason I seem to be stuck in dependency hell and it starts with

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winehq-devel : Depends: wine-devel (= 1.8~stretch)

After that it's one dependency missing after another, maybe I'm missing something? Do I needed to follow the "Build Dependencies" section? I'm not building winehq from source I feel like this is for something else + the notices says "Note: the info below needs to be updated to refer to the official WineHQ packages, not the distro ones."

I decided to try wine-development (1.7.55) instead of wine (1.8rc4) from the Debian repo and things seems to be much more stable, obviously because it's not a release candidate, but also it now no longer shows the HTML Rending Disable issue which is fixed by:

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wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/wine/Wine%20Gecko/2.40/wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi
sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/wine-development/gecko
sudo mv wine_gecko-2.40-x86.msi /usr/share/wine-development/gecko/ 

Unlike wine-1.8rc4, which still shows the issue when applied. I still get graphical glitches but the windows does not freak out as much, so this is still not a fix.

I would still like to get winehq-devel package so I can test it, do you have an suggestions?

I also feel like the issues with wine/wine-development from the Debian repo are because of packaging issues. The wine/wine-development package references other packages (like libwine-gecko-2.40) and don't actually exists. I guess this is to be expected on stretch/testing.

Thank you for your help so far.

[Mr. Octus]

I apologize for the double post but checking back further up in the terminal shows I still have HTML rendering disabled:

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Could not load wine-gecko. HTML rendering will be disabled.

So I was mistaken in my last post.

[dimesio]

After that it's one dependency missing after another, maybe I'm missing something? Do I needed to follow the "Build Dependencies" section?

No, you shouldn't need to install build dependencies, but if your package manager is complaining about missing specific dependencies, you need to install them. You should also try purging any other Wine packages you may have previously installed before trying to install the WineHQ ones.

I don't use Debian, so I'm afraid I can't be much help beyond that. I have heard that Aptitude and Synaptic make it easier to figure out dependency issues, so you could try installing with one of those.