all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

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all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by Codesound » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:28 am

Linux Mint Cinnamom 20.1_x64 - wine 6.3 staging - LinVst3-2.15-Debian-Stretch - LinVst-3.2.1-Debian-Stretch

Hi,
until yesterday everything worked fine ...
Reaper was running and all plugins were scanned / loaded / opened correctly.
Last night I updated wine-staging and now when Reaper starts, ALL vst / vst3 are not scanned by Reaper .... they actually crash.
Please help me. what can I do?

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by Codesound » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm

Codesound wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:28 am
Linux Mint Cinnamom 20.1_x64 - wine 6.3 staging - LinVst3-2.15-Debian-Stretch - LinVst-3.2.1-Debian-Stretch

Hi,
until yesterday everything worked fine ...
Reaper was running and all plugins were scanned / loaded / opened correctly.
Last night I updated wine-staging and now when Reaper starts, ALL vst / vst3 are not scanned by Reaper .... they actually crash.
Please help me. what can I do?

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Hi,
I was able to solve this HUGE problem thanks to a REAPER forum user (Glennbo) who had the same problem: it seems that wine-staging 6.3 has problems and for this reason I installed wine-stable6.0 and everything is back to working . I have no idea what that can be, but with wine-stable6.0 everything works

Regards

This is the post
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php ... 8&posted=1

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by jkfloris » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:25 pm

There is one thing I don't understand on the cockos forum:

There are three different branches of Wine:
- Wine stable 6.0
This version will only get updates when they are ready and shouldn't break.
So if you have this version installed, then it is not suddenly updated
Use this version if the application works.

- Wine development 6.x
Every two weeks there will be a new version.
This is where the development of Wine happens.
Try this version if an application doesn't work

- Wine staging 6.x
This is the "playground" of Wine. Full of patches on top of Wine development to test new things and hacky workarounds.

I read that the program works on stable and not staging. Does the program work on Wine development?

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by Codesound » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:54 am

jkfloris wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:25 pm
There is one thing I don't understand on the cockos forum:

There are three different branches of Wine:
- Wine stable 6.0
This version will only get updates when they are ready and shouldn't break.
So if you have this version installed, then it is not suddenly updated
Use this version if the application works.

- Wine development 6.x
Every two weeks there will be a new version.
This is where the development of Wine happens.
Try this version if an application doesn't work

- Wine staging 6.x
This is the "playground" of Wine. Full of patches on top of Wine development to test new things and hacky workarounds.

I read that the program works on stable and not staging. Does the program work on Wine development?
Hi,
first of all, thanks for your interest of this problem....

Wine-staging is the branch of wine preferred in the Linux-audio world. All use this branch of wine; however, the problems described above appeared in the latest release of wine-staging.
the solution found is to go back to wine-stable: this is 6.0. wine-staging worked until the last or penultimate release.
I don't understand why but with the last wine-staging6.3 all audio plugins are no longer loaded when Reaper starts... I have installed wine-stable 6.0 and all is go back to work.....

it is clear that several plugins are not working now: all the Arturia plugins needed the wine-staging for work:

see this thread opened time ago
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34911&p=131549#p131549

wine-stable or wine-devel doesn't have the options described here....consequently the Artutia plugins do NOT work anymore...

I hope that the future release of wine-staging solve these problems, (I don't know who to talk to or warn)...
if it serves something useful, I try to install wine-devel and then I inform you.... ok?

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by jkfloris » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:42 am

(I don't know who to talk to or warn)...
Search Bugzilla to see if a bug report has already been created for this error. If not, create one for wine-staging with regression in the title.

Also, complain to Arturia that they should not try to detect if their software is running under Wine = Wine bug 46314.

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by qwertymnb » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:44 pm

Maybe I'm way off, but couldn`t this be bug
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50731 ?

Those VST`s have extension .so ; are they compiled with winegcc?

If so, then this bug is probably already fixed in current tree, so if you are bored you might wanna try (self-compile) current git, or otherwise wait for wine-6.4.....

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by Codesound » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:04 pm

jkfloris wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:42 am
(I don't know who to talk to or warn)...
Search Bugzilla to see if a bug report has already been created for this error. If not, create one for wine-staging with regression in the title.

Also, complain to Arturia that they should not try to detect if their software is running under Wine = Wine bug 46314.
Hi,
Also with wine-devel this problem remain...
https://imgur.com/HiK7PQD

The only way that I know to solve this problem is to inistall wine-stable 6.0 for now...

I don't know Bugzilla ... I don't know how to use it...

thanks for you patience...
regards

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Re: all the VSTs crash when at Reaper startup with last wine upd

Post by Codesound » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:09 pm

qwertymnb wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:44 pm
Maybe I'm way off, but couldn`t this be bug
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50731 ?

Those VST`s have extension .so ; are they compiled with winegcc?

If so, then this bug is probably already fixed in current tree, so if you are bored you might wanna try (self-compile) current git, or otherwise wait for wine-6.4.....
Hi,
we use a wrapper for windows vst plugins called LinVST or LinVST3: this wrapper has been working well with wine-staging for years.
But it seems you are right: in wine-staging 6.4 this bug was probably fixed
thanks

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