Wine latest install fail (mac)

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:35 pm

Okay, so after checking that I had installed the required programs for installation on a mac I downloaded the latest version of wine (wine-1.1.40). I then used:

./compile --verbose --disable-win16

worked fine.

then entered:

make default && make

and all went well. This was until it decided to find this:

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../../tools/winegcc/winegcc -m32 -B../../tools/winebuild --sysroot=../.. -shared /users/USERNAMEHERE/downloads/wine-1.1.40/dlls/openal32/openal32.spec openal.o        -o openal32.dll.so  -lkernel32 -lntdll  ../../libs/port/libwine_port.a -framework OpenAL  
ld warning: in /Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL, file is not of required architecture
Undefined symbols:
  "_alDopplerFactor", referenced from:
      _wine_alDopplerFactor in openal.o
  "_alGetSourceiv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSourceiv in openal.o
  "_alSourceStopv", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceStopv in openal.o
  "_alGetError", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetError in openal.o
  "_alEnable", referenced from:
      _wine_alEnable in openal.o
  "_alSourceRewind", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceRewind in openal.o
  "_alcSuspendContext", referenced from:
      _wine_alcSuspendContext in openal.o
  "_alcMakeContextCurrent", referenced from:
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
  "_alGetDoublev", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetDoublev in openal.o
  "_alSourcePlay", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcePlay in openal.o
  "_alBuffer3f", referenced from:
      _wine_alBuffer3f in openal.o
  "_alBuffer3i", referenced from:
      _wine_alBuffer3i in openal.o
  "_alBufferData", referenced from:
      _wine_alBufferData in openal.o
  "_alGetSourcef", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSourcef in openal.o
  "_alSpeedOfSound", referenced from:
      _wine_alSpeedOfSound in openal.o
  "_alGetSourcei", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSourcei in openal.o
  "_alDeleteSources", referenced from:
      _wine_alDeleteSources in openal.o
  "_alcGetEnumValue", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetEnumValue in openal.o
  "_alGetFloatv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetFloatv in openal.o
  "_alGenSources", referenced from:
      _wine_alGenSources in openal.o
  "_alcCaptureStart", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCaptureStart in openal.o
  "_alIsSource", referenced from:
      _wine_alIsSource in openal.o
  "_alcGetIntegerv", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetIntegerv in openal.o
  "_alListenerfv", referenced from:
      _wine_alListenerfv in openal.o
  "_alListeneriv", referenced from:
      _wine_alListeneriv in openal.o
  "_alGetSource3f", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSource3f in openal.o
  "_alGetSource3i", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSource3i in openal.o
  "_alIsEnabled", referenced from:
      _wine_alIsEnabled in openal.o
  "_alSourcefv", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcefv in openal.o
  "_alSourceiv", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceiv in openal.o
  "_alGetFloat", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetFloat in openal.o
  "_alIsExtensionPresent", referenced from:
      _wine_alIsExtensionPresent in openal.o
  "_alListenerf", referenced from:
      _wine_alListenerf in openal.o
  "_alListeneri", referenced from:
      _wine_alListeneri in openal.o
  "_alcCreateContext", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCreateContext in openal.o
  "_alGetBooleanv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBooleanv in openal.o
  "_alcGetError", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetError in openal.o
  "_alDisable", referenced from:
      _wine_alDisable in openal.o
  "_alcGetProcAddress", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetProcAddress in openal.o
  "_alGetListenerf", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetListenerf in openal.o
  "_alGetBufferfv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBufferfv in openal.o
  "_alSourcePause", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcePause in openal.o
  "_alGetListeneri", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetListeneri in openal.o
  "_alBufferf", referenced from:
      _wine_alBufferf in openal.o
  "_alDistanceModel", referenced from:
      _wine_alDistanceModel in openal.o
  "_alGetBufferiv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBufferiv in openal.o
  "_alGetListenerfv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetListenerfv in openal.o
  "_alcOpenDevice", referenced from:
      _wine_alcOpenDevice in openal.o
  "_alBufferi", referenced from:
      _wine_alBufferi in openal.o
  "_alcIsExtensionPresent", referenced from:
      _wine_alcIsExtensionPresent in openal.o
  "_alListener3f", referenced from:
      _wine_alListener3f in openal.o
  "_alListener3i", referenced from:
      _wine_alListener3i in openal.o
  "_alSourcePausev", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcePausev in openal.o
  "_alGetListeneriv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetListeneriv in openal.o
  "_alGetProcAddress", referenced from:
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alcMakeContextCurrent in openal.o
      _wine_alGetProcAddress in openal.o
  "_alcGetString", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetString in openal.o
  "_alSource3f", referenced from:
      _wine_alSource3f in openal.o
  "_alcCloseDevice", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCloseDevice in openal.o
  "_alSourceQueueBuffers", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceQueueBuffers in openal.o
  "_alSource3i", referenced from:
      _wine_alSource3i in openal.o
  "_alcCaptureSamples", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCaptureSamples in openal.o
  "_alcCaptureCloseDevice", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCaptureCloseDevice in openal.o
  "_alGetEnumValue", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetEnumValue in openal.o
  "_alSourceRewindv", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceRewindv in openal.o
  "_alcCaptureOpenDevice", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCaptureOpenDevice in openal.o
  "_alcProcessContext", referenced from:
      _wine_alcProcessContext in openal.o
  "_alcCaptureStop", referenced from:
      _wine_alcCaptureStop in openal.o
  "_alSourceStop", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceStop in openal.o
  "_alGetDouble", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetDouble in openal.o
  "_alGetBuffer3f", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBuffer3f in openal.o
  "_alIsBuffer", referenced from:
      _wine_alIsBuffer in openal.o
  "_alGetBuffer3i", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBuffer3i in openal.o
  "_alSourcef", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcef in openal.o
  "_alGetListener3f", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetListener3f in openal.o
  "_alSourcei", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcei in openal.o
  "_alGetListener3i", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetListener3i in openal.o
  "_alGetString", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetString in openal.o
  "_alBufferfv", referenced from:
      _wine_alBufferfv in openal.o
  "_alGetBoolean", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBoolean in openal.o
  "_alSourcePlayv", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourcePlayv in openal.o
  "_alGetBufferf", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBufferf in openal.o
  "_alGetBufferi", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetBufferi in openal.o
  "_alDopplerVelocity", referenced from:
      _wine_alDopplerVelocity in openal.o
  "_alDeleteBuffers", referenced from:
      _wine_alDeleteBuffers in openal.o
  "_alBufferiv", referenced from:
      _wine_alBufferiv in openal.o
  "_alGenBuffers", referenced from:
      _wine_alGenBuffers in openal.o
  "_alSourceUnqueueBuffers", referenced from:
      _wine_alSourceUnqueueBuffers in openal.o
  "_alcDestroyContext", referenced from:
      _wine_alcDestroyContext in openal.o
      _wine_alcDestroyContext in openal.o
  "_alcGetContextsDevice", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetContextsDevice in openal.o
  "_alGetInteger", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetInteger in openal.o
  "_alGetIntegerv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetIntegerv in openal.o
  "_alGetSourcefv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSourcefv in openal.o
ld: symbol(s) not found
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
winegcc: gcc failed
make[1]: *** [openal32.dll.so] Error 2
make: *** [dlls/openal32] Error 2

Wondering if anyone else had the same problem.... because I have no idea about the file not being the required architecture.....

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ryan woodsmall · Post by **ryan woodsmall** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:14 pm

Okay, so after checking that I had installed the required programs for installation on a mac I downloaded the latest version of wine (wine-1.1.40). I then used:

./compile --verbose --disable-win16

worked fine.

then entered:

make default && make

and all went well. This was until it decided to find this:

Wondering if anyone else had the same problem.... because I have no idea about the file not being the required architecture.....

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

See http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/Building

At the minimum, you'll need to set your compiler to produce 32-bit code:

export CFLAGS="-arch i386 -m32"
export CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS"

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:36 pm

Tried it using the macports install instead of the easy install, and I still got the same error message

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../../tools/winegcc/winegcc -m32 -B../../tools/winebuild --sysroot=../.. -shared ./oledlg.spec insobjdlg.o oledlg_main.o pastespl.o    oledlg_Cs.res oledlg_Da.res oledlg_De.res oledlg_En.res oledlg_Es.res oledlg_Fr.res oledlg_Hu.res oledlg_It.res oledlg_Ja.res oledlg_Ko.res oledlg_Lt.res oledlg_Nl.res oledlg_No.res oledlg_Pl.res oledlg_Pt.res oledlg_Ru.res oledlg_Si.res oledlg_Sv.res oledlg_Tr.res oledlg_Zh.res    -o oledlg.dll.fake  -lole32 -lcomdlg32 -luser32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32  ../../libs/port/libwine_port.a  -L/opt/local/lib -framework CoreServices -lz 
make: *** [dlls] Error 2

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:51 pm

Whoops, not quite the whole error message:

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Error: Target org.macports.build returned: shell command " cd "/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_x11_wine-devel/work/wine-1.1.34" && /usr/bin/make -j2 depend all " returned error 2
Command output:   "_alcGetContextsDevice", referenced from:
      _wine_alcGetContextsDevice in openal.o
  "_alGetInteger", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetInteger in openal.o
  "_alGetIntegerv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetIntegerv in openal.o
  "_alGetSourcefv", referenced from:
      _wine_alGetSourcefv in openal.o
ld: symbol(s) not found
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
winegcc: /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 failed
make[2]: *** [openal32.dll.so] Error 2
make[1]: *** [openal32] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_It.res oledlg_It.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Ja.res oledlg_Ja.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Ko.res oledlg_Ko.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Lt.res oledlg_Lt.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Nl.res oledlg_Nl.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_No.res oledlg_No.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Pl.res oledlg_Pl.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Pt.res oledlg_Pt.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Ru.res oledlg_Ru.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Si.res oledlg_Si.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Sv.res oledlg_Sv.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Tr.res oledlg_Tr.rc
../../tools/wrc/wrc --nostdinc -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__   -fooledlg_Zh.res oledlg_Zh.rc
../../tools/winegcc/winegcc -m32 -B../../tools/winebuild --sysroot=../.. -shared ./oledlg.spec insobjdlg.o oledlg_main.o pastespl.o    oledlg_Cs.res oledlg_Da.res oledlg_De.res oledlg_En.res oledlg_Es.res oledlg_Fr.res oledlg_Hu.res oledlg_It.res oledlg_Ja.res oledlg_Ko.res oledlg_Lt.res oledlg_Nl.res oledlg_No.res oledlg_Pl.res oledlg_Pt.res oledlg_Ru.res oledlg_Si.res oledlg_Sv.res oledlg_Tr.res oledlg_Zh.res    -o oledlg.dll.so  -lole32 -lcomdlg32 -luser32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32  ../../libs/port/libwine_port.a  -L/opt/local/lib -framework CoreServices -lz 
../../tools/winegcc/winegcc -m32 -B../../tools/winebuild --sysroot=../.. -shared ./oledlg.spec insobjdlg.o oledlg_main.o pastespl.o    oledlg_Cs.res oledlg_Da.res oledlg_De.res oledlg_En.res oledlg_Es.res oledlg_Fr.res oledlg_Hu.res oledlg_It.res oledlg_Ja.res oledlg_Ko.res oledlg_Lt.res oledlg_Nl.res oledlg_No.res oledlg_Pl.res oledlg_Pt.res oledlg_Ru.res oledlg_Si.res oledlg_Sv.res oledlg_Tr.res oledlg_Zh.res    -o oledlg.dll.fake  -lole32 -lcomdlg32 -luser32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32  ../../libs/port/libwine_port.a  -L/opt/local/lib -framework CoreServices -lz 
make: *** [dlls] Error 2

Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.

Charles Davis · Post by **Charles Davis** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:13 pm

On 3/16/10 11:35 AM, Adriasil wrote:

ld warning: in /Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL, file is not of required architecture

I'll bet you installed a local copy of OpenAL.framework, but it was only
built for 64-bit. That would explain this error. If you built it
yourself, try building it "universal". Then it will get built for both
32-bit and 64-bit, and you can use it from Wine. If you didn't, ask
whoever did build it for a universal build.

Chip

Charles Davis · Post by **Charles Davis** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:14 pm

On 3/16/10 4:51 PM, Adriasil wrote:

Command output: "_alcGetContextsDevice", referenced from:
_wine_alcGetContextsDevice in openal.o
"_alGetInteger", referenced from:
_wine_alGetInteger in openal.o
"_alGetIntegerv", referenced from:
_wine_alGetIntegerv in openal.o
"_alGetSourcefv", referenced from:
_wine_alGetSourcefv in openal.o

*exasperated sigh* I told you, your local copy of OpenAL.framework was
built *for the wrong architecture*. That is, it was built /64-bit/
instead of /32-bit/. Or, it was built for /PowerPC/ instead of /Intel/.
If you want to use that OpenAL with Wine, you *have* to use a /32-bit
Intel/ OpenAL.

Or, maybe Wine is getting built for the wrong architecture. What does
running:

file /Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL

tell you about the OpenAL framework? If it says:

/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL: Mach-O 64-bit dynamic
library x86_64

or

/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL: Mach-O dynamic library ppc

then I'm right and your copy was indeed built for the wrong architecture.

Chip

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:24 pm

I got that much, thanks... I tried re-installing openAL twice... using the .pkg installed as well as the macports install way.... they both didn't seem to work....

Would you happen to know how to install a 32-bit intel version?

ryan woodsmall · Post by **ryan woodsmall** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:44 pm

I got that much, thanks... I tried re-installing openAL twice... using the .pkg installed as well as the macports install way.... they both didn't seem to work....

Would you happen to know how to install a 32-bit intel version?

First things first: you're running on an Intel machine with Snow Leopard/10.6, correct? If not, what OS? Which version of Xcode do you have installed? I don't know if any of this has ever been established.

If you've installed OpenAL supprot from the Creative-provided OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmg... you may have killed your OpenAL framework. Can you install/reinstall the latest Xcode/developer tools that runs on your OS?

As far as MacPorts, it's not affiliated with Wine in any way, but it doesn't appear that the "openal" port has a universal variant. You may be able to force install a 32-bit version, but if you have problems with this, you'll need to ping the MacPorts folks. This is essentially a "recursive force upgrade" that causes a 32-bit OpenAL (and all dependents) to be rebuilt; it may or may not work and may completely destroy your MacPorts packages:

arch -i386 sudo port -Rfuv openal

That's about all the MacPorts support we'll ever offer, I believe. Good luck.

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:56 pm

I'm currently running OS 10.5 with xcode version 3.1.4.

The current version of openAL that is installed is the PowerPC version (why this is I have no clue, it may have happened when I first transferred some stuff over from my old G4). I tried running the .dmg and .pkg from creative and that hasn't helped what so ever...

Charles Davis · Post by **Charles Davis** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:00 pm

On 3/17/10 5:24 PM, Adriasil wrote:

I got that much, thanks... I tried re-installing openAL twice... using the .pkg installed as well as the macports install way.... they both didn't seem to work....

Would you happen to know how to install a 32-bit intel version?

With MacPorts, it's simple to build universal. Just specify the
+universal variant.

Where did you get the .pkg?

Chip

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:08 pm

I got it off of the dmg file here.

http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/ ... Items.aspx

I'll go and try the +universal thing...

ryan woodsmall · Post by **ryan woodsmall** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:25 pm

I'm currently running OS 10.5 with xcode version 3.1.4.

The current version of openAL that is installed is the PowerPC version (why this is I have no clue, it may have happened when I first transferred some stuff over from my old G4). I tried running the .dmg and .pkg from creative and that hasn't helped what so ever...

That won't work, the Creative-supplied version probably broke things further. There are probably two versions of the OpenAL framework on your computer now, the Mac OS X-supplied universal build and the Creative-supplied PPC-only build. Run the following in a terminal:

ls -ald {/System,}/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework
file {/System,}/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL

The /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework directory is the Mac OS X-supplied version, and the one you want to keep. If you have a framework in /Library/System/Framework, this is probably the wrong one. You can move it with:

sudo mv /Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework{,.disabled}

Don't install the Creative package. It won't work since it's PPC-only and not required on 10.5+.

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:31 pm

well... ran the first two lines to find out that I don't just have the PPC version.... in fact I have all of them...

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/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL: Mach-O universal binary with 4 architectures
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL (for architecture ppc7400):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library ppc
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL (for architecture ppc64):	Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library ppc64
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL (for architecture i386):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library i386
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL (for architecture x86_64):	Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL:        Mach-O dynamically linked shared library ppc

ryan woodsmall · Post by **ryan woodsmall** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:35 pm

well... ran the first two lines to find out that I don't just have the PPC version.... in fact I have all of them...

Code:

...

/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/OpenAL: Mach-O dynamically linked shared library ppc

Please read my entire message, and then read this:

http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/ ... /ld.1.html

"The default framework search path is /Library/Frameworks then /System/Library/Frameworks."

The linker is finding the PPC-only version first. Move that framework out of the way and attempt to compile again. You've been given everything you need to make this work.

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:35 pm

oh, and none of them are in /library/system/framework

Adriasil · Post by **Adriasil** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:42 pm

Thanks a heap, did everything now and it all works! Installing as we speak.

Sorry for distracting you, and probably making you fairly frustrated.

Thanks again!

ryan woodsmall · Post by **ryan woodsmall** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:08 pm

Thanks a heap, did everything now and it all works! Installing as we speak.

Sorry for distracting you, and probably making you fairly frustrated.

Thanks again!

I'm glad it's working for you, but Charles gave you the exact same answer yesterday that I sent today. There's only so much hand-holding you can expect since everyone here is basically volunteering. I mean no disrespect by this, but you need to be mindful when you're asking questions/running into problems. If someone with more experience than you sends instructions, you need to follow them if you expect help.