office 2007 with wine

hirohitosan · Post by **hirohitosan** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:41 am

Hi there. I'm new here, and is the first time installing wine.

My question is very simple: can I run MsOffice 2007 (Word, PP, Excel) with wine? How? Can you give an easy step by step tutorial?

Thanks

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:49 am

hirohitosan wrote:My question is very simple: can I run MsOffice 2007 (Word, PP, Excel) with wine? How? Can you give an easy step by step tutorial?

Search AppDB for answers to such questions:
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=4992

hirohitosan · Post by **hirohitosan** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:58 am

I read that but I couldn't understand how to start wine and Word for example. I already have MsOffice on my computer. Do I have to install it again?

Post by **DanKegel** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:14 am

http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ should answer most of your questions.

There are a number of tutorials floating around, e.g.
http://sudosys.be/?q=office2007_wine

Don't follow any tutorial that tells you to download DLLs from random
sites on the web, though! The best way to get MS dlls is by
running winetricks, see http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks

David Gerard · Post by **David Gerard** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:33 am

2008/12/4 hirohitosan <[email protected]>:

I read that but I couldn't understand how to start wine and Word for example. I already have MsOffice on my computer. Do I have to install it again?

In general, yes - you install apps separately in Wine, just as if you
were installing them afresh on Windows. Think of Wine as a version of
Windows (which is what it tries to be, after all).

People often think of trying to run their already-installed copy of a
Windows app from Wine (accessing the Windows partition or whatever),
but this is a really bad idea: (a) it often doesn't work (b) it often
fouls up the installation of the app on the Windows partition!
(Because Wine does many things its own way.)

If an app's installed in Wine and everything's working, you can use
the document files from the Windows partition just the same. But the
app installation has to be separate.

- d.

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:04 am

There are a number of tutorials floating around, e.g.
http://sudosys.be/?q=office2007_wine

Do not follow that tutorial if you are using Wine 1.1.3 or newer; it is outdated. No native overrides are needed to install Office 2007 in current Wine. Just run the installer as you would in Windows. Once Office is installed, set riched20.dll to (native, builtin) in winecfg. You do not have to install the dll--Office installs its own riched20, but Wine won't use it until you set the override.

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:49 am

dimesio <[email protected]> at Dec 4, 2008 9:04 AM (MST) wrote about [Wine] Re: office 2007 with wine

There are a number of tutorials floating around, e.g.
http://sudosys.be/?q=office2007_wine

Do not follow that tutorial if you are using Wine 1.1.3 or newer; it is outdated. No native overrides are needed to install Office 2007 in current Wine. Just run the installer as you would in Windows. Once Office is installed, set riched20.dll to (native, builtin) in winecfg. You do not have to install the dll--Office installs its own riched20, but Wine won't use it until you set the override.

Are there functions in this version of riched20.dll that need to be implemented so that we don't have to run the native dll?

James McKenzie

Post by **dimesio** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:15 pm

Are there functions in this version of riched20.dll that need to be implemented so that we don't have to run the native dll?

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14980

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:33 am

David Gerard wrote:2008/12/4 hirohitosan <[email protected]>:
People often think of trying to run their already-installed copy of a
Windows app from Wine (accessing the Windows partition or whatever),
but this is a really bad idea: (a) it often doesn't work (b) it often
fouls up the installation of the app on the Windows partition!
(Because Wine does many things its own way.)

I can understand point a because of the registry (apps that completely rely on the registry usually won't run), but b sounds like something very rare to happen... I've run dozens of apps through Wine, including from Windows partitions, without it fouling up everything simply because Wine's registry is completely seperate and 95% of the time it can read and write the app's config files just fine.

But yeah, pretty much all MS apps do require a fresh installation because of the heavy usage of the registry and extra DLLs the apps come with.

David Gerard · Post by **David Gerard** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:54 am

2008/12/5 DaVince <[email protected]>:

David Gerard wrote:

People often think of trying to run their already-installed copy of a
Windows app from Wine (accessing the Windows partition or whatever),
but this is a really bad idea: (a) it often doesn't work (b) it often
fouls up the installation of the app on the Windows partition!
(Because Wine does many things its own way.)

I can understand point a because of the registry (apps that completely rely on the registry usually won't run), but b sounds like something very rare to happen... I've run dozens of apps through Wine, including from Windows partitions, without it fouling up everything simply because Wine's registry is completely seperate and 95% of the time it can read and write the app's config files just fine.

Yeah, I think it's mostly registry. Wine manages its registry its own
way, not the way Windows does.

But yeah, pretty much all MS apps do require a fresh installation because of the heavy usage of the registry and extra DLLs the apps come with.

Wine is best thought of as a separate Windows installation.

(When changing machines/hard disks on Windows 95/98 way back when, I
used to do things all the time like copying the contents of one HD to
the other and trying to run apps from there. Or put an old C: drive in
a box as a new D: drive. Results varied. Oddly, Office 95 used to cope
with the move quite reasonably ...)

- d.