LTSpice problems

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LTSpice problems

Post by RichardR »

Hello,
In the past, I successfully used Linear Technology's LTSPice CAD/simulation software with Wine.

Last week, I upgraded the somewhat outdated Ubuntu Precise install to Linux Mint 16 KDE, and tried reinstalling LTSpice under Wine (see http://ltspice.linear-tech.com/software/LTspiceIV.exe).

Installating it works just fine, and it also starts OK -- even though the fonts look horrible. However, as soon as I actually load any of the example circuit files, Wine crashes:

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$ wine ./.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/LTC/LTspiceIV/scad3.exe
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
wine: Unhandled page fault on write access to 0x00000086 at address 0x7bc4717b (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000086 in 32-bit code (0x7bc4717b).
Register dump:
 CS:0023 SS:002b DS:002b ES:002b FS:0063 GS:006b
 EIP:7bc4717b ESP:0033ce9c EBP:0033ce9c EFLAGS:00010206(  R- --  I   - -P- )
 EAX:00000082 EBX:7bcc7000 ECX:001741b0 EDX:00000008
 ESI:0000000f EDI:7e1a8fc0
Stack dump:
0x0033ce9c:  0033ced0 7bc482e0 001741b8 00000040
0x0033ceac:  00000002 00110000 00172548 001741b0
0x0033cebc:  00000002 00174160 001741b0 00110014
0x0033cecc:  ffffffff 0033cf10 7bc484cd 00110014
0x0033cedc:  00174160 00000050 7bc34809 00110064
0x0033ceec:  00000000 0014648c 00000050 00000000
000c: sel=0067 base=00000000 limit=00000000 32-bit --x
Backtrace:
=>0 0x7bc4717b in ntdll (+0x3717b) (0x0033ce9c)
  1 0x7bc482e0 in ntdll (+0x382df) (0x0033ced0)
  2 0x7bc484cd in ntdll (+0x384cc) (0x0033cf10)
  3 0x7bc4b921 RtlFreeHeap+0xef() in ntdll (0x0033cf60)
  4 0x7eb0ddea in gdi32 (+0x4dde9) (0x0033cfd0)
  5 0x7eb0e62d in gdi32 (+0x4e62c) (0x0033d0e0)
  6 0x7e1a9072 in winex11 (+0x49071) (0x0033d1b0)
  7 0x7eb100eb ExtTextOutW+0x16e6() in gdi32 (0x0033d3e0)
  8 0x7ec38799 DrawTextExW+0x79f() in user32 (0x0033dd10)
  9 0x7ec38db1 DrawTextW+0x80() in user32 (0x0033dd60)
  10 0x7e588d0b DrawStatusTextW+0x1d6() in comctl32 (0x0033ddc0)
  11 0x7e5e4011 in comctl32 (+0x74010) (0x0033de60)
  12 0x7e5e41aa in comctl32 (+0x741a9) (0x0033deb0)
  13 0x7e5e4396 in comctl32 (+0x74395) (0x0033df10)
  14 0x7e5e674a in comctl32 (+0x76749) (0x0033df90)
  15 0x7e5e744a in comctl32 (+0x77449) (0x0033dfe0)
  16 0x7ec52912 WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x0033e010)
  17 0x7ec52a66 WINPROC_wrapper+0x16d() in user32 (0x0033e050)
  18 0x7ec53e20 in user32 (+0xb3e1f) (0x0033e540)
  19 0x7ec552c9 CallWindowProcA+0x11f() in user32 (0x0033e580)
  20 0x00922223 in scad3 (+0x522222) (0x0033e5a0)
  21 0x009218f0 in scad3 (+0x5218ef) (0x0033e630)
  22 0x00922821 in scad3 (+0x522820) (0x0033e650)
  23 0x009301e6 in scad3 (+0x5301e5) (0x0033e670)
  24 0x00921833 in scad3 (+0x521832) (0x0033e6d0)
  25 0x00921a3b in scad3 (+0x521a3a) (0x0033e6ec)
  26 0x7ec52912 WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x0033e71c)
  27 0x7ec52a66 WINPROC_wrapper+0x16d() in user32 (0x0033e75c)
  28 0x7ec5520d CallWindowProcA+0x63() in user32 (0x0033e79c)
  29 0x004b6d76 in scad3 (+0xb6d75) (0x0033e8dc)
  30 0x7ec52912 WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x0033e90c)
  31 0x7ec52a66 WINPROC_wrapper+0x16d() in user32 (0x0033e94c)
  32 0x7ec54f15 in user32 (+0xb4f14) (0x0033ee4c)
  33 0x7ec550d4 in user32 (+0xb50d3) (0x0033ee9c)
  34 0x7ec10bc7 in user32 (+0x70bc6) (0x0033eefc)
  35 0x7ec138b7 in user32 (+0x738b6) (0x0033ef5c)
  36 0x7ec13fab SendMessageW+0x53() in user32 (0x0033efac)
  37 0x7ec207ac in user32 (+0x807ab) (0x0033efdc)
  38 0x7ec21646 RedrawWindow+0x399() in user32 (0x0033f04c)
  39 0x7ec216c2 UpdateWindow+0x51() in user32 (0x0033f07c)
  40 0x7e5e5a20 in comctl32 (+0x75a1f) (0x0033f0dc)
  41 0x7e5e71f0 in comctl32 (+0x771ef) (0x0033f12c)
  42 0x7ec52912 WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x0033f15c)
  43 0x7ec52a66 WINPROC_wrapper+0x16d() in user32 (0x0033f19c)
  44 0x7ec53e20 in user32 (+0xb3e1f) (0x0033f68c)
  45 0x7ec552c9 CallWindowProcA+0x11f() in user32 (0x0033f6cc)
  46 0x00922223 in scad3 (+0x522222) (0x0033f6ec)
  47 0x0092d4bf in scad3 (+0x52d4be) (0x0033f720)
  48 0x004b9620 in scad3 (+0xb961f) (0x0033f75c)
  49 0x0049146d in scad3 (+0x9146c) (0x0033fa68)
  50 0x00922c8f in scad3 (+0x522c8e) (0x0033faf4)
  51 0x00922821 in scad3 (+0x522820) (0x0033fb14)
  52 0x00921833 in scad3 (+0x521832) (0x0033fb74)
  53 0x00921a3b in scad3 (+0x521a3a) (0x0033fb90)
  54 0x7ec52912 WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x0033fbc0)
  55 0x7ec52a66 WINPROC_wrapper+0x16d() in user32 (0x0033fc00)
  56 0x7ec5514b in user32 (+0xb514a) (0x0033fc50)
  57 0x7ec15109 DispatchMessageA+0x19a() in user32 (0x0033fd60)
  58 0x0092565c in scad3 (+0x52565b) (0x009ee990)
  59 0x00000200 (0x000301ca)
0x7bc4717b: movl        %edx,0x4(%eax)
Modules:
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (71 modules)
PE        400000-  ac8000       Export          scad3
ELF     7b800000-7ba43000       Deferred        kernel32<elf>
  \-PE  7b810000-7ba43000       \               kernel32
ELF     7bc00000-7bce3000       Dwarf           ntdll<elf>
  \-PE  7bc10000-7bce3000       \               ntdll
ELF     7bf00000-7bf04000       Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF     7df38000-7df6f000       Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
  \-PE  7df40000-7df6f000       \               uxtheme
ELF     7df93000-7dfb7000       Deferred        imm32<elf>
  \-PE  7dfa0000-7dfb7000       \               imm32
ELF     7dfb7000-7dfbe000       Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF     7dfbe000-7dfe0000       Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF     7dfe0000-7dfe6000       Deferred        libuuid.so.1
ELF     7dfe6000-7e000000       Deferred        libice.so.6
ELF     7e000000-7e135000       Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF     7e135000-7e148000       Deferred        libxext.so.6
ELF     7e148000-7e151000       Deferred        libsm.so.6
ELF     7e151000-7e202000       Dwarf           winex11<elf>
  \-PE  7e160000-7e202000       \               winex11
ELF     7e202000-7e2a1000       Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
ELF     7e2a1000-7e2c3000       Deferred        libtinfo.so.5
ELF     7e2c3000-7e2e8000       Deferred        libncurses.so.5
ELF     7e2e8000-7e311000       Deferred        mpr<elf>
  \-PE  7e2f0000-7e311000       \               mpr
ELF     7e311000-7e32b000       Deferred        libz.so.1
ELF     7e33c000-7e342000       Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF     7e349000-7e3c3000       Deferred        wininet<elf>
  \-PE  7e350000-7e3c3000       \               wininet
ELF     7e3c3000-7e524000       Deferred        ole32<elf>
  \-PE  7e3e0000-7e524000       \               ole32
ELF     7e524000-7e565000       Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE  7e530000-7e565000       \               winspool
ELF     7e565000-7e684000       Dwarf           comctl32<elf>
  \-PE  7e570000-7e684000       \               comctl32
ELF     7e684000-7e8c2000       Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE  7e690000-7e8c2000       \               shell32
ELF     7e8c2000-7e9af000       Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE  7e8d0000-7e9af000       \               comdlg32
ELF     7e9af000-7ea38000       Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
  \-PE  7e9c0000-7ea38000       \               rpcrt4
ELF     7ea38000-7eaa9000       Deferred        advapi32<elf>
  \-PE  7ea40000-7eaa9000       \               advapi32
ELF     7eaa9000-7eb88000       Dwarf           gdi32<elf>
  \-PE  7eac0000-7eb88000       \               gdi32
ELF     7eb88000-7ecf7000       Dwarf           user32<elf>
  \-PE  7eba0000-7ecf7000       \               user32
ELF     7ecf7000-7ed6d000       Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE  7ed00000-7ed6d000       \               shlwapi
ELF     7ef6d000-7ef7a000       Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF     7ef7a000-7ef86000       Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     7ef86000-7ef9f000       Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF     7ef9f000-7efe2000       Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF     7efe5000-7f000000       Deferred        version<elf>
  \-PE  7eff0000-7f000000       \               version
ELF     f7037000-f7054000       Deferred        libgcc_s.so.1
ELF     f7072000-f70b2000       Deferred        usp10<elf>
  \-PE  f7080000-f70b2000       \               usp10
ELF     f71b2000-f72f6000       Deferred        oleaut32<elf>
  \-PE  f71d0000-f72f6000       \               oleaut32
ELF     f7366000-f73cd000       Deferred        riched20<elf>
  \-PE  f7370000-f73cd000       \               riched20
ELF     f73cd000-f73e1000       Deferred        riched32<elf>
  \-PE  f73d0000-f73e1000       \               riched32
ELF     f73e2000-f73e7000       Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF     f73e7000-f759b000       Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF     f759c000-f75b7000       Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF     f75b7000-f75c0000       Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     f75d0000-f75d4000       Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF     f75d5000-f7719000       Dwarf           libwine.so.1
ELF     f771b000-f773d000       Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
ELF     f773d000-f773e000       Deferred        [vdso].so
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) Z:\home\richard\.wine\drive_c\Program Files\LTC\LTspiceIV\scad3.exe
        00000023    0
        00000022    0
        00000009    0 <==
0000000e services.exe
        0000001e    0
        0000001d    0
        00000015    0
        00000010    0
        0000000f    0
00000012 winedevice.exe
        00000019    0
        00000014    0
        00000013    0
0000001a plugplay.exe
        0000001f    0
        0000001c    0
        0000001b    0
00000020 explorer.exe
        00000021    0
Some pertinent information:
Machine hardware: AMD 64-bit, 4GB of RAM
Graphics card:

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$ lspci -nn | grep VGA
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 
[AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550] [1002:954f]
(256MB video RAM)
Graphics driver: radeon
OS: Linux Mint 16 KDE 64-bit
Wine version: 1.4.1

The things I tried:
- Installing the fglrx graphics driver, but so far with disastrous results (no functional X Server, just a black screen). Also I don't recall this being installed in the old Ubuntu version. SSH'ing in from another box, uninstalling fglrx and reverting to radeon fortunately fixed this.
- Installing an older LTSpice version from a back-up -> no improvement.
- Forcing Wine into 32-bit mode by adding a line WINEARCH=win32 to /etc/environment, rebooting, deleting the complete ~/.wine folder, and reinstalling LTSpice from scratch -> no improvement.
- Installing & configuring winetricks, plus a Windows theme through winecfg, to at least improve the ugly font rendering -> better fonts, but no functional improvement.

The weird thing is that this worked just fine under the old Ubuntu installation, and that it also worked out-of-the-box on another Linux Mint 16 KDE 64-bit machine (with much better looking fonts too); the main difference is that this latter machine has a rather more sophisticated nVidia graphics card, so I still suspect a graphics driver issue (also because of the bad fonts) -- but I'm not quite certain.
I also wonder why the fglrx driver doesn't work, but troubleshooting a machine with a completely black screen is somewhat tricky, so I haven't really looked into that. Besides, the radeon driver seems to work just fine for all the rest of the applications, acceleration and all.

Does anyone have any ideas what may be the problem here, and how I might go about fixing it?

Thank you in advance.
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Re: LTSpice problems

Post by dimesio »

Your Wine version is old and no longer supported. Upgrade to the latest development release.

I downloaded the app from the link you provided. It installs and runs fine out of the box on openSUSE in 1.7.20--no crash, fonts look fine. I do, however, have an Nvidia card with the proprietary driver. It's possible your problem is due to your graphics card/driver, but this app doesn't look all that graphically demanding to me (at least not from the example file I opened). What does jump out at me from your console output is this:

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Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
I don't see that in the console when I run LTSpice. If you still see it after upgrading Wine, the problem may lie in whatever version of fontconfig you have on your system.
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Re: LTSpice problems - SOLVED

Post by RichardR »

Your Wine version is old and no longer supported. Upgrade to the latest development release.
Thak you for your quick answer! I upgraded to version 1.7, and indeed this appears to have solved the problem!
It's still a bit mysterious why the older version failed on just one particular machine, but perhaps it was the combination with the graphics card that caused the problem.

Thanks once again, best regards,

Richard
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