Alternative to windows media player?

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Alternative to windows media player?

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Hi,

I'm installing Wine for the first time on my Mac through MacPorts.

I've been reasonably successful and the application that I wanted to use, a training program, runs almost flawlessly :-)

It does ask to use Windows Media Player and I did install WMP9 and this installed fine and the application does play the videos. However, these are thumbnail sized. While this isn't a big deal, I was wondering if I could install an alternative media player into Wine and get that to run my videos instead of WMP and potentially get full screen video.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
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Vlc player.
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Post by omro »

Thanks, I gave that a try, however - the application seems unaffected and the embedded video still tries to run WMP.

How do I tell Wine to use VLC rather than WMP for embedded video playback?
Martin Gregorie

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On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 15:58 -0600, winepunk wrote:
Vlc player.
Agreed, with Mplayer as 2nd choice.

Martin
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Post by Martin Gregorie »

On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 17:04 -0600, omro wrote:
Thanks, I gave that a try, however - the application seems unaffected and the embedded video still tries to run WMP.

How do I tell Wine to use VLC rather than WMP for embedded video playback?
You don't. They are native Linux applications. I think VLC and Mplayer
both have Windows ports, but why on earth would you want them?

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Post by omro »

I'm sorry, I guess that I didn't explain myself very well

I was given some training materials, all windows based. The training application makes use of embedded video clips. When I first attempted to install it, it failed because I needed WMP. So I installed that. Now, when it opens the video clips, they open as a thumbnail size and when I right click the videos it says windows media player.
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Post by dimesio »

omro wrote: I was given some training materials, all windows based. The training application makes use of embedded video clips. When I first attempted to install it, it failed because I needed WMP. So I installed that. Now, when it opens the video clips, they open as a thumbnail size and when I right click the videos it says windows media player.
If the app itself is relying on WMP, you can't substitute another media player.
Martin Gregorie

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Post by Martin Gregorie »

On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 19:27 -0600, dimesio wrote:
omro wrote:
I was given some training materials, all windows based. The training
application makes use of embedded video clips. When I first attempted
to install it, it failed because I needed WMP. So I installed that.
Now, when it opens the video clips, they open as a thumbnail size and
when I right click the videos it says windows media player.

If the app itself is relying on WMP, you can't substitute another
media player.
If nobody can suggest a way to enlarge the video clips to viewable size
(is this a job for the virtual screen?) its probably worth a look
through the registry in the wine prefix and/or any configuration files
created by the installer to see if the choice of WMV player is
configurable.

If it is, it might work with a native player. That's certainly worth a
try before going to the trouble of installing a Windows video player.
If that doesn't work, try installing the Windows version of VLC in the
same Wine prefix as the training app and configuring that as the app's
video player.


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Post by omro »

How do you do that?
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Post by doug »

On 01/24/2012 10:48 PM, omro wrote:
How do you do that?
This submission means nothing to me, and probably to all
others who don't use threaded mail. The statement that
brought on this reply is long gone, I have no idea what it
was. Normal email etiquette is to quote the significant
part of the message you are replying to, so that the reader
can relate to the statement.

Thanx for your time. --doug
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Re: Alternative to windows media player?

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Martin Gregorie wrote:try installing the Windows version of VLC in the
same Wine prefix as the training app and configuring that as the app's
video player.
How do you do that?
Martin Gregorie

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Post by Martin Gregorie »

On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 22:33 -0600, omro wrote:
Martin Gregorie wrote:
try installing the Windows version of VLC in the
same Wine prefix as the training app and configuring that as the app's
video player.
How do you do that?
Have you tried using a virtual desktop to rescale the WMP images? If
not, do so. Winecfg controls that. Instructions are on the main WineHQ
site.

If "How do you do that" refers to installing VLC, heres how. This is the
general process you'd use for installing anything, so remember it for
future use.

Use Wine's regedit to examine the wine registry to see if any for your
app entries name the media player and set the path to it.

Look at the directory structure where the app is installed to see if
there are any .INI files or similar and examine those too.

Native VLC: If VLC isn't directly supported by your Linux distro, check
with http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ to find a suitable package and
instructions for installing it.

Windows VLC: Get the Windows package as described above. If your app is
in the default Wine prefix (.wine) simply install it there too. If you
used a different prefix to install your app, make sure you use the sale
prefix when you install VLC.

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Have you tried using a virtual desktop to rescale the WMP images? If not, do so. Winecfg controls that. Instructions are on the main WineHQ
site.
The video is embedded inside the training application, it does not launch the media player outside of the app. Having the training app run within a virtual desktop makes no difference to the embedded video.
If "How do you do that" refers to installing VLC, heres how. This is the general process you'd use for installing anything, so remember it for
future use.

Use Wine's regedit to examine the wine registry to see if any for your
app entries name the media player and set the path to it.
Couldn't find anything in the registry that seemed to point towards media player.
Look at the directory structure where the app is installed to see if
there are any .INI files or similar and examine those too.
There are no ini files that I can find either, even with a search.
Windows VLC: Get the Windows package as described above. If your app is in the default Wine prefix (.wine) simply install it there too. If you used a different prefix to install your app, make sure you use the sale
prefix when you install VLC.
The windows version of this software installed without a hitch in Wine. However, the training application throws up the following error when I try and use it without media player installed at all:

This product may require a newer version of Windows Media Player OLE Error 80040154

Which I'm going to see if I can find some examples of online. Any thoughts are helpful, I appreciate them.
Martin Gregorie

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Post by Martin Gregorie »

On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 14:22 -0600, omro wrote:
Windows VLC: Get the Windows package as described above. If your app
is in the default Wine prefix (.wine) simply install it there too. If
you used a different prefix to install your app, make sure you use the
same prefix when you install VLC.
The windows version of this software installed without a hitch in
Wine. However, the training application throws up the following error
when I try and use it without media player installed at all:

This product may require a newer version of Windows Media Player OLE
Error 80040154
Looks like the thing is hardwired to use WMP, so you may be snookered.

The only thing that occurs to me is to rename VLC so it masquerades as
WMP, but since the app is using OLE to launch it, I suspect that won't
work either. You may have to use Windows, running on its own PC, as a
dual-boot installation, or run under Linux in a VM.


Martin
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