installing Native Instruments - Maschine ... Disk not found

[Crow-]

Hi All, first of all it's really nice to see how far wine has progressed... I contributed code.. like, over 15 years ago So... I'm trying to install Maschine by Native Instruments and it gets pretty far into the installation process and then refuses to go further saying "Disk not found" .. "Please insert Maschine" .. attached is a log... any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
Stephen

[dimesio]

You didn't mention what version of Wine you're using. If it's not the latest development release, upgrade.

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crow@insurrection:/mnt$ wine maschine\ setup\ pc.exe 

Follow these instructions for running apps from a terminal: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal

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Wine cannot find the ncurses library (libncurses.so.5).

You need to fix that.

I also see a lot of richedit errors; if the above suggestions don't help, you could try native riched20.

[Crow-]

Thanks for the quick reply

You didn't mention what version of Wine you're using. If it's not the latest development release, upgrade.

I'm running Debian
ii q4wine 0.121-4 amd64 Qt4 GUI for wine (WINE)
ii wine1.3 1.4-0ubuntu1~ppa1~lucid1 amd64 Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)

Are debs available for the latest deb release?

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crow@insurrection:/mnt$ wine maschine\ setup\ pc.exe 

Follow these instructions for running apps from a terminal: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal

I don't have any problems running apps from the terminal.

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Wine cannot find the ncurses library (libncurses.so.5).

You need to fix that.

It should be installed...

ii libncurses5:amd64 5.9+20130504-1 amd64 shared libraries for terminal handling
ii libncursesw5:amd64 5.9+20130504-1 amd64 shared libraries for terminal handling (wide character support)
ii libncursesw5:i386 5.9+20130504-1 i386 shared libraries for terminal handling (wide character support)
ii ncurses-base 5.9-10 all basic terminal type definitions
ii ncurses-bin 5.9-10 amd64 terminal-related programs and man pages
ii ncurses-term 5.9-10 all additional terminal type definitions

I also see a lot of richedit errors; if the above suggestions don't help, you could try native riched20.

Not trying to be obtuse, but how on Earth would a richedit library have anything to do with wine recognizing a disk?

[dimesio]

I'm running Debian
ii q4wine 0.121-4 amd64 Qt4 GUI for wine (WINE)
ii wine1.3 1.4-0ubuntu1~ppa1~lucid1 amd64 Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)

Are debs available for the latest deb release?

Your Wine version is old and no longer supported. As for whether there are debs, ask your distro.

Note also that q4wine is not supported here; please test in plain Wine only.

I don't have any problems running apps from the terminal.

Nevertheless, you were doing it incorrectly, and failing to do it correctly can lead to apps not being able to find necessary files. Please follow the instructions I linked you to.

It should be installed...

Then you need to figure out why Wine can't find it. There may be another package you need, or you may need to make a symlink.

Not trying to be obtuse, but how on Earth would a richedit library have anything to do with wine recognizing a disk?

It wouldn't, which is why I mentioned it last. However, error messages from apps running in Wine aren't necessarily accurate; that may just be the message the app throws up whenever something unexpected goes wrong. Think of it as a last resort to try if my other suggestions don't work.

[Crow-]

I upgraded to wine-1.5.5 from the packages @ http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable and still got the same problem. the ncurses message is harmless, see http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29543 attached is log from 1.5.5 ... I suspect it has something to do with the

fixme:wintrust:WinVerifyTrust unimplemented for 3
and
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 9c040 (device=9 access=3 func=10 method=0)

messages.

[dimesio]

The current development release is 1.6-rc4. Please test in that.

[abique]

I have the same issue.
I'm using Archlinux, with wine 1.7.0.

[akI*]

I'm trying to install Maschine by Native Instruments

Well i dont want to corrupt your efforts but NI Maschine will not install in wine.
The first barrier is that you´ll have to fix the noCD found issue.
But even if you can pass that, the installation will fail. Maschine will install two different drivers, one for the Maschine and one for the Mikro Maschine. This driver installation will fail and crash your setup.

From my understanding its because of not supported USB devices and therefor also not supported USB drivers in wine.

You can try to compile wine by yourself with the patch from Alexander Morozov (Etersoft) http://wiki.winehq.org/USB but i had no luck with these patches.

If you want to have Maschine Software running in Linux distros you need to install Maschine on Windows and copy the installation to your wine specific PREFIX. But Maschine software will not find your Maschine hardware (because of the not existing Maschine drivers) so the software is anyway useless at the moment.

By the way, your Maschine hardware is supported with some kind of initial work through usb-caiaq http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/so ... q/device.c in linux directly. Supported now are the 1x1 MIDI interface and the 41 buttons, 11 endless rotary encoders, and 16 pressure sensitive drum pads. Still to work on are the dimmable LEDs and the two monochrome screens.

Normally caiaq should be installed to your system if you´re running debian based systems like ubuntu.

Sorry to tell you that.

[Crow-]

Hey akI*, my efforts were not corrupted at all... that is actually about what I expected. This is actually great news that a low-level driver exists! Thanks for the tip.

FYI, there might be some security alert about the driver for folks who are paranoid about that kinda stuff, but if someone gets physical access to your box then I dont think its that big of a concern anyway.

http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-sec ... -0712.html

Peace,
Stephen

[Crow-]

Also see

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index. ... -usb-caiaq

[Crow-]

actually it looks like those linux drivers linked to above have nothing to do with the Maschine MK2 and is actually for some Native Instruments soundcard hardware. I'm trying to use the device as inputs into software

[akI*]

Well the drivers support the MK1 but as the MK2 had only slightly changes there should be native MIDI support of course.
As i stated before there is no support for LED and display at all but you might be able to detect your maschine controller in your DAW of choice.
For me, who is using reaper atm, maschine is detected under hardware tab.

Anyway you will not be able to work with your maschine like you would like to do cause without any kind of pad support in some kind of VST, Standalone or DAW directly you simply cant use your maschine wether its MK1 nor MK2 version.

Sorry to tell you that.

For me its a bit of fail of ALSA because native instruments stated that they overhanded the complete driver sources to the ALSA project. But ALSA dont seem to be working on a native support inculding in their ALSA source.

Please check out this sites/threads:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... 1633-Linux

http://www.native-instruments.com/knowl ... nder+Linux

http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/ ... nstruments

If your have any kind of success get your maschine fully supported please let me know because i also got this baby here and cant really work with it like i would like to...