*Is In Need Of Some Help*

[Rubaonti]

Hai everyone, well once again, I need halp!

A game recently came out, and like always, this game is not executable in a Mac.

Anyway, I'm having major problems trying to run the game...

If anyone out there is willing to help me please reply me!

PS: The game is called Xen Online, http://xen.mayngames.com/main for more info. It's in closed beta ATM, so if you need the beta key, please tell me! Thanks!

[jjmckenzie]

On 6/17/11 4:15 AM, Rubaonti wrote:

Hai everyone, well once again, I need halp!

A game recently came out, and like always, this game is not executable in a Mac.

Hundreds of games 'come out and are not runnable on a Mac.' How about
giving US a clue which game by giving us a name and do so up front (this
is not a slam but did you read the newcomers sticky before posting
here. It really helps if you do so.)

Anyway, I'm having major problems trying to run the game...

Gee. That is not new news to anyone here.

If anyone out there is willing to help me please reply me!

We cannot do anything to help you until the game is released and ready
for prime time.

If you are the developer, the situation changes. If you are a tester,
please read through the NDA before posting here. You might not even be
able to discuss the existence of the program.

James McKenzie

[Rubaonti]

On 6/17/11 4:15 AM, Rubaonti wrote:

Hai everyone, well once again, I need halp!

A game recently came out, and like always, this game is not executable in a Mac.

Hundreds of games 'come out and are not runnable on a Mac.' How about
giving US a clue which game by giving us a name and do so up front (this
is not a slam but did you read the newcomers sticky before posting
here. It really helps if you do so.)

Anyway, I'm having major problems trying to run the game...

Gee. That is not new news to anyone here.

If anyone out there is willing to help me please reply me!

We cannot do anything to help you until the game is released and ready
for prime time.

If you are the developer, the situation changes. If you are a tester,
please read through the NDA before posting here. You might not even be
able to discuss the existence of the program.

James McKenzie

I did tell which game it was and I posted a link to the website, sorry if I did something wrong :S.

[DanKegel]

Hai everyone

Oh hai.

I'd be happy to give it a shot, just email the access info to
[email protected].

[doh123]

I have a feeling it might not be too hard to get working unless they put some mega DRM in there... this is what I found for the minimum system requirements... on the download page (http://www.mayngames.com/games/download/xen)

OS: Windows 98, XP, 2000, Vista
CPU: Intel P3 800MHz or AMD CPU of the same capacity
RAM: 512MB
Graphics: OpenGL VGA (above 32MB video Memory)
DirectX: 9.0c

[Rubaonti]

I have a feeling it might not be too hard to get working unless they put some mega DRM in there... this is what I found for the minimum system requirements... on the download page (http://www.mayngames.com/games/download/xen)

OS: Windows 98, XP, 2000, Vista
CPU: Intel P3 800MHz or AMD CPU of the same capacity
RAM: 512MB
Graphics: OpenGL VGA (above 32MB video Memory)
DirectX: 9.0c

The game lets you choose between DirectX or OpenGL, but there's some error when I try to use DirectX(though windows users were having the same problems so it's not wine). So I switched it to OpenGL and the "3D" images or effects look all altered... Is it because I need to update OpenGL? If you know how to do it, please tell me!

[forthelulz]

I have a feeling it might not be too hard to get working unless they put some mega DRM in there... this is what I found for the minimum system requirements... on the download page (http://www.mayngames.com/games/download/xen)

OS: Windows 98, XP, 2000, Vista
CPU: Intel P3 800MHz or AMD CPU of the same capacity
RAM: 512MB
Graphics: OpenGL VGA (above 32MB video Memory)
DirectX: 9.0c

The game lets you choose between DirectX or OpenGL, but there's some error when I try to use DirectX(though windows users were having the same problems so it's not wine). So I switched it to OpenGL and the "3D" images or effects look all altered... Is it because I need to update OpenGL? If you know how to do it, please tell me!

Okay. No offense but I find people like you incredibly annoying. You come on to a forum without doing any self-help (i.e. type you problem into google) and you scream for someone to spoon feed you info? Then when people ask you to elaborate - more whining.

Your problem is that you need to get a fucken PC bro. You will continue to have problems with games and other open-source apps because no one uses f-ing macs! Get a pc, load windows 7, and all your problems will be solved. Then you can play the Sims or whatever. But Wine tends to be unstable and if your not willing troubleshoot on your own...save yourself hours of grief. Dump your mactard.

[Charles Davis]

On 6/21/11 12:25 AM, forthelulz wrote:

Rubaonti wrote:

doh123 wrote:

I have a feeling it might not be too hard to get working unless they put some mega DRM in there... this is what I found for the minimum system requirements... on the download page (http://www.mayngames.com/games/download/xen)

OS: Windows 98, XP, 2000, Vista
CPU: Intel P3 800MHz or AMD CPU of the same capacity
RAM: 512MB
Graphics: OpenGL VGA (above 32MB video Memory)
DirectX: 9.0c

The game lets you choose between DirectX or OpenGL, but there's some error when I try to use DirectX(though windows users were having the same problems so it's not wine). So I switched it to OpenGL and the "3D" images or effects look all altered... Is it because I need to update OpenGL? If you know how to do it, please tell me!

Okay. No offense but I find people like you incredibly annoying. You come on to a forum without doing any self-help (i.e. type you problem into google) and you scream for someone to spoon feed you info? Then when people ask you to elaborate - more whining.

Your problem is that you need to get a fucken PC bro. You will continue to have problems with games and other open-source apps because no one uses f-ing macs! Get a pc, load windows 7, and all your problems will be solved. Then you can play the Sims or whatever. But Wine tends to be unstable and if your not willing troubleshoot on your own...save yourself hours of grief. Dump your mactard.

And I find people like YOU incredibly annoying. People who outright hate
the Macintosh platform. I'll have you know I'm a Mac user, and your
comments don't sit very well with me. I like my Macs. And I will never
ever run that piece of crap Windows on any of my computers ever again.

The fact that "no one uses Macs" (which is totally untrue, but is widely
perceived as true by the public at large) is precisely why these things
don't work. The only way to get Wine working better on Mac is for people
to use it on the Mac so we can find out what's wrong! I submit test
results for Wine back to the project. I look at the test results page
(at http://test.winehq.org ), and I am terribly disappointed to find
that 8 or 9 times out of 10 I am the only one who submitted results for
Mac. We need *more* Mac users, not less! And, we need more Mac
developers, too. But that won't happen until more people start using
Wine on Mac!

And one more thing: there's no need to drop F-bombs. Your attitude is
not helping. I agree that people should try to help themselves first,
but we shouldn't be screaming "Get lost, you effin' luser!" into their
ears. That's just rude.

Chip

[Rubaonti]

I have a feeling it might not be too hard to get working unless they put some mega DRM in there... this is what I found for the minimum system requirements... on the download page (http://www.mayngames.com/games/download/xen)

OS: Windows 98, XP, 2000, Vista
CPU: Intel P3 800MHz or AMD CPU of the same capacity
RAM: 512MB
Graphics: OpenGL VGA (above 32MB video Memory)
DirectX: 9.0c

The game lets you choose between DirectX or OpenGL, but there's some error when I try to use DirectX(though windows users were having the same problems so it's not wine). So I switched it to OpenGL and the "3D" images or effects look all altered... Is it because I need to update OpenGL? If you know how to do it, please tell me!

Okay. No offense but I find people like you incredibly annoying. You come on to a forum without doing any self-help (i.e. type you problem into google) and you scream for someone to spoon feed you info? Then when people ask you to elaborate - more whining.

Your problem is that you need to get a fucken PC bro. You will continue to have problems with games and other open-source apps because no one uses f-ing macs! Get a pc, load windows 7, and all your problems will be solved. Then you can play the Sims or whatever. But Wine tends to be unstable and if your not willing troubleshoot on your own...save yourself hours of grief. Dump your mactard.

Um, my friend, you're getting mad at me over something like this?

Seriously I'm new to this thing so I know, honestly, nothing... I just want my game to work, but I don't know why it's not working properly... What whining? It's just pixels, lol.

I found you quite pathetic to get mad at these sorts of things, I don't know much about this so SORRY if I didn't give enough info.

[doh123]

The game lets you choose between DirectX or OpenGL, but there's some error when I try to use DirectX(though windows users were having the same problems so it's not wine). So I switched it to OpenGL and the "3D" images or effects look all altered... Is it because I need to update OpenGL? If you know how to do it, please tell me!

what are your system specs and OS version?

What version of Wine, or are you using a 3rd party app? Are you using the latest build of XQuartz with it, or Apple's X11?

"altered" doesn't help one bit in description... any terminal output to go along with it?

[Rubaonti]

The game lets you choose between DirectX or OpenGL, but there's some error when I try to use DirectX(though windows users were having the same problems so it's not wine). So I switched it to OpenGL and the "3D" images or effects look all altered... Is it because I need to update OpenGL? If you know how to do it, please tell me!

what are your system specs and OS version?

What version of Wine, or are you using a 3rd party app? Are you using the latest build of XQuartz with it, or Apple's X11?

"altered" doesn't help one bit in description... any terminal output to go along with it?

Like I said I don't know much but I think it's the following:
I'm using Wine Version 1.2.2(1.2.2)
And Apple's X11
My mac's version is 10.6.4

Hope that helps in anything XD.

Oh and like they don't go "3D" they just mix up together, instead of one thing on top of the other.(Hope you get it, if not, I can post a screenshot ).

Thanks!

[doh123]

Like I said I don't know much but I think it's the following:
I'm using Wine Version 1.2.2(1.2.2)
And Apple's X11
My mac's version is 10.6.4

Hope that helps in anything XD.

Oh and like they don't go "3D" they just mix up together, instead of one thing on top of the other.(Hope you get it, if not, I can post a screenshot ).

Thanks!

XQuartz is MUCH better than Apple's version of X11, you should really go with it.
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/

Wine 1.2.2 is rather old.. why not try 1.3.22?

OSX 10.6.4 is missing some updates to graphics drivers that helps a lot, you should really run Software Update and get everything up through 10.6.7 ... and even 10.6.8 is in testing and out soon.

[Rubaonti]

Like I said I don't know much but I think it's the following:
I'm using Wine Version 1.2.2(1.2.2)
And Apple's X11
My mac's version is 10.6.4

Hope that helps in anything XD.

Oh and like they don't go "3D" they just mix up together, instead of one thing on top of the other.(Hope you get it, if not, I can post a screenshot ).

Thanks!

XQuartz is MUCH better than Apple's version of X11, you should really go with it.
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/

Wine 1.2.2 is rather old.. why not try 1.3.22?

OSX 10.6.4 is missing some updates to graphics drivers that helps a lot, you should really run Software Update and get everything up through 10.6.7 ... and even 10.6.8 is in testing and out soon.

Thanks for the info!!!

Do you know where I could get that new version of Wine? Thing is, I don't really understand how to download it :S.

[dimesio]

Okay. No offense but I find people like you incredibly annoying.

You obviously need to read http://wiki.winehq.org/ForumGuidelines. Pay particular attention to item 6.

[jjmckenzie]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Rubaonti <[email protected]> wrote:

doh123 wrote:

XQuartz is MUCH better than Apple's version of X11, you should really go with it.
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/

Wine 1.2.2 is rather old..  why not try 1.3.22?

OSX 10.6.4 is missing some updates to graphics drivers that helps a lot, you should really run Software Update and get everything up through 10.6.7 ... and even 10.6.8 is in testing and out soon.

Thanks for the info!!!

Do you know where I could get that new version of Wine? Thing is, I don't really understand how to download it :S.

Where did you get your copy of Wine from?

If you used MacPorts or Fink, you will have to install the development
version of Wine (actually is is more of a work in progress version of
Wine.)

[bcpeterson]

Assuming you used macports to install wine (which is probably likely),

What you'll want to do to get the latest version of wine is type these commands into terminal...

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sudo port deactivate wine
sudo port install wine-devel

If you're using fink, personally don't know how to use that, but I'd imagine this would do the trick:

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sudo apt-get remove wine
sudo apt-get install wine-dev

Hope that helps. The appdb seems to indicate that the game runs fine in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... &iId=22922

If it works for you, consider adding your results =).

Good luck.

[jjmckenzie]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:47 AM, bcpeterson <[email protected]> wrote:

Assuming you used macports to install wine (which is probably likely),
If you're using fink, personally don't know how to use that, but I'd imagine this would do the trick:

The commands to remove Wine 1.2.2 and install Wine 1.3.21 (that is the
version Fink is at):

fink purge wine-stable
fink install wine

James McKenzie

[Rubaonti]

Assuming you used macports to install wine (which is probably likely),

What you'll want to do to get the latest version of wine is type these commands into terminal...

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sudo port deactivate wine
sudo port install wine-devel

If you're using fink, personally don't know how to use that, but I'd imagine this would do the trick:

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sudo apt-get remove wine
sudo apt-get install wine-dev

Hope that helps. The appdb seems to indicate that the game runs fine in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... &iId=22922

If it works for you, consider adding your results =).

Good luck.

Thanks for the help!!!

And I think I didn't use mac ports :S.

[Rubaonti]

I think that I might as well just wait for them to fix the error with the directx rendering thing XD. Because everything else is working quite properly.

Thanks everyone for the help!

[doh123]

I'll assume you didn't compile Wine at all... your probably using WineBottler's Wine.app which is a 3rd party program and not supported here.

Waiting for a DirectX fix probably will not fix anything since non-Windows OSes cannot use DirectX, so Wine still uses OpenGL even for Direct3D.

If you don't want to compile source code to install and use Wine command line (which macports and such will do for you), you can try any other 3rd party program you want, but you won't be able to get support for them here.
http://wiki.winehq.org/ThirdPartyApplications

[Rubaonti]

I'll assume you didn't compile Wine at all... your probably using WineBottler's Wine.app which is a 3rd party program and not supported here.

Waiting for a DirectX fix probably will not fix anything since non-Windows OSes cannot use DirectX, so Wine still uses OpenGL even for Direct3D.

If you don't want to compile source code to install and use Wine command line (which macports and such will do for you), you can try any other 3rd party program you want, but you won't be able to get support for them here.
http://wiki.winehq.org/ThirdPartyApplications

Yup that's what I did XD. Thing is I tried to install mac ports but it wouldn't let me :S... I also tried with fink, and it didn't let me either . Ah well.

[jjmckenzie]

On 6/21/11 8:06 PM, Rubaonti wrote:

Yup that's what I did XD. Thing is I tried to install mac ports but it wouldn't let me :S... I also tried with fink, and it didn't let me either . Ah well.

You have to be a system administrator user in order to use either
MacPorts or Fink. By your response, I'm assuming you are not.