Games not loading

Fredrik-Hussein · Post by **Fredrik-Hussein** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:47 am

My games Heroes might and magic 5 tribes of the east and Civilization 4 are crashing on load in wine.
They loaded before when I was using the Ubuntu drivers.
Ever since I have changed to The ATI drivers. For my ATI Radeon Mobility X700 graphics card. Have my Games stopped running. I have added the following to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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ection "Device"
	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]"
	Driver      "fglrx"
	Option	    "VideoOverlay" "on"
	Option	    "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
	Option "Capabilities" "0x00000800"
	Option "UseFastTLS" "off"
	Option "KernelModuleParm" "locked-userpages=0"
	Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"

I have also made log files for both heroes and civ if needed.
I have tried to update wine to the new version but my system says its the newest version.
I used the following walk through to install the drivers:
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... tion_Guide

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:36 am

Same problem here: i can install games perfectly, i can run Photoshop and other apps perfectly, but i can't start games...

I discovered that the problem is the fglrx driver: i tried the radeonhd one and it works, i can start games!!! But they're unplayable because direct rendering has not been implemented yet, so it's too slow...

I tried OffscreenRenderingMode with "fbo", "pbuffer" and "backbuffer"; i tried to set VideoMemorySize to "512" and "256"; i tried to disable Vertex Shaders and Pixel Shaders; i even tried to set UseGLSL to "disabled"..... all those tries were useless.

Uh, i forgot, i'm using:
- Wine 0.9.60
- Gentoo Linux
- kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r5
- fglrx 8.473 (Catalyst 8.4)

My video card is a Radeon HD 3870 (512MB).

Is there something i can do to get games working with fglrx drivers?

Dan Kegel · Post by **Dan Kegel** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:08 am

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:36 AM, mattemod <[email protected]> wrote:

the problem is the fglrx driver: the radeonhd one works, i can start games!!!
- Wine 0.9.60
- Gentoo Linux
- kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r5
- fglrx 8.473 (Catalyst 8.4)

My video card is a Radeon HD 3870 (512MB).

Is there something i can do to get games working with fglrx drivers?

Are *all* games broken with fglrx?

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Fri May 02, 2008 8:38 am

mattemod wrote:Is there something i can do to get games working with fglrx drivers?

Try downgrading Wine to wine-0.9.58. There were few regressions with ATI cards.

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:37 pm

Dan Kegel wrote:Are *all* games broken with fglrx?

Until now i've tried Morrowind, Oblivion, Chronicles of a Vampire Hunter and Pax Romana, but they didn't work.
I'm going to try some other games that should "perfectly" work (like Guild Wars, which is platinum) and write results here.
Ah, all games are original, so i didn't use any crack.

vitamin wrote:Try downgrading Wine to wine-0.9.58. There were few regressions with ATI cards.

Ok, i'll try and let you know here.

Fredrik-Hussein · Post by **Fredrik-Hussein** » Fri May 02, 2008 7:01 pm

All games which i run in wine doesn't work I even have Ubuntu 8.04 now and Wine 0.9.59
or 0.9.60.
Same problem but linux games as the doom/quake 3 arena game works and scorched earth

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Fri May 02, 2008 7:06 pm

I just tried Morrowind (this time i didn't install Bloodmoon expansion) and Guild Wars with Wine 0.9.58, but they still crash!

Guild Wars (which is platinum) says that there's an irreversible error with my video card and gives me this link: http://eu.guildwars.com/support/article ... _detected/
I tried to start it both with
wine "C:\Programmi\GUILD WARS\Gw.exe"
and
wine "C:\Programmi\GUILD WARS\Gw.exe" -dx8 -nosound -noshaders -windowed
but result is the same...

Morrowind crashes like with Wine 0.9.60. Here is the log for Wine 0.9.60 that i copied this morning: http://pastebin.com/m1c6ccebe

If you need any other info, just ask.

Now i'm going to compile Wine 0.9.61 from sources and let you know if the problem is still present...

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Fri May 02, 2008 10:42 pm

I compiled Wine 0.9.61 from sources and results are the same.

Only wine/debug output on the shell changed a bit, you can find it here: http://pastebin.com/m26f7484

I'm going to post a new bug to bugzilla, because i searched for similar bugs but they all seem specific to only one game per time, while the problem is for all games with fglrx driver... (PLEASE tell me i'm wrong ^^)

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Sat May 03, 2008 12:23 am

Here is my bug report:
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12929

Fredrik-Hussein · Post by **Fredrik-Hussein** » Sun May 04, 2008 1:44 pm

I find this to be strange becasue on ubuntu 7.10 with wine 9.57 and with the ubuntu drivers did games run i vine slow but it ran the games at least

Bad Boy Bubby · Post by **Bad Boy Bubby** » Sun May 04, 2008 3:18 pm

Hi

Im new but having trouble running games under ubuntu 8.04 wine 9.60

all games install fine but

counterstrike 1.6 runs but crashes/freezes box after indeterminate time.
cs ran fine in software mode. although the graphics lagged badly.

trackmania will not start just crashes.

so im guessing games just wont run correctly under the current version of wine / ati drivers does anyone know a previous version of wine / driver combination that would work?

I really want to dump M$ but this is the only thing stopping me now

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Sun May 04, 2008 4:40 pm

Fredrik-Hussein wrote:I find this to be strange becasue on ubuntu 7.10 with wine 9.57 and with the ubuntu drivers did games run i vine slow but it ran the games at least

Which drivers are you using? And which version?

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Sun May 04, 2008 5:22 pm

Bad Boy Bubby wrote:current version of wine / ati drivers does anyone know a previous version of wine / driver combination that would work?

wine-0.9.59, wine-0.9.60 and for some games wine-0.9.61 are broken on ATI hardware. Use older Wine versions.

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Sun May 04, 2008 5:26 pm

vitamin wrote:wine-0.9.59, wine-0.9.60 and for some games wine-0.9.61 are broken on ATI hardware. Use older Wine versions.

Like i said in a previous post:

mattemod wrote:I just tried Morrowind (this time i didn't install Bloodmoon expansion) and Guild Wars with Wine 0.9.58, but they still crash!

and in the bug (posted by me) that i linked (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12929) Wine 0.9.58 doesn't work too, at least for me.

Fredrik-Hussein · Post by **Fredrik-Hussein** » Sun May 04, 2008 5:37 pm

Which drivers are you using? And which version?

I'm using Ubuntu drivers for 8.04 now because I'm using 8.04 now. But I was using the standard drivers which Ubuntu 7.10 recommends to install when I got it to work in 7.10.
The problem was that when I used those drivers every thing didn't work in Ubuntu.
When I used this Guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... tion_Guide
To install drivers every thing stopped working. Even if I did it "the Ubuntu way"

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:07 pm

Fredrik-Hussein wrote:
Which drivers are you using? And which version?
I'm using Ubuntu drivers for 8.04 now because I'm using 8.04 now. But I was using the standard drivers which Ubuntu 7.10 recommends to install when I got it to work in 7.10.
The problem was that when I used those drivers every thing didn't work in Ubuntu.
When I used this Guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... tion_Guide
To install drivers every thing stopped working. Even if I did it "the Ubuntu way"

Sorry but i didn't understand what you're using... and sorry, but i wanted to know the driver version you were using when you could play games with Wine.

To tell us your current driver version:
1. launch amdcccle in the shell
2. click on Information in the left menu
3. write here the Driver Version value written on the right

You can also tell us the driver version searching for an "fglrx" entry in your package manager.

vitamin · Post by **vitamin** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:41 pm

Fredrik-Hussein wrote:
Which drivers are you using? And which version?
I'm using Ubuntu drivers for 8.04 now because I'm using 8.04 now. But I was using the standard drivers which Ubuntu 7.10 recommends to install when I got it to work in 7.10.
The problem was that when I used those drivers every thing didn't work in Ubuntu.
When I used this Guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... tion_Guide
To install drivers every thing stopped working. Even if I did it "the Ubuntu way"

What does

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glxinfo | grep version

say?

Fredrik-Hussein · Post by **Fredrik-Hussein** » Mon May 05, 2008 1:28 pm

it says:
server glx version string: 1.2
client glx version string: 1.4
GLX version: 1.2
OpenGL version string: 2.1.7412 Release

But as I said this before I'm not using Ubuntu 7.10 any more I'm Using 8.04

mattemod · Post by **mattemod** » Tue May 06, 2008 8:21 am

Fredrik-Hussein wrote:But as I said this before I'm not using Ubuntu 7.10 any more I'm Using 8.04

Yes, in fact i asked which version were you using when you could play games with Wine

So, which version were you using with Ubuntu 7.10?