Getting old versions of wine?

cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:42 am

Hi, i used to play Warcraft 3 on wine very well years ago and recently decided to give it another go, only to find that it won't work with recent versions of wine. I think this is sad beyond words, but its not my project.

I come here to ask some guidance in getting an old version of wine. My googling reveals that 0.9.10 is the one i should get. I use Ubuntu 7.10 and i can try to compile from source (how to get that old source?) but there must be a .deb package around from when 0.9.10 was the latest.

Thank you.

John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:51 am

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, cttw <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, i used to play Warcraft 3 on wine very well years ago and recently decided to give it another go, only to find that it won't work with recent versions of wine. I think this is sad beyond words, but its not my project.

It works with the latest. I played it last night on wine-0.9.59.
Although because of bug 11188 it is difficult to press the save button
knowing that your progress may be wiped out.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11188

John

cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:01 am

Interesting. Personally i get a black screen at start. I renamed the Movies and i run with -opengl. If i run with -window i get a black window instead of a black screen. There are countless forum threads about this problem, and not one has a solution. There also seems to be a problem connecting to battle.net, but i haven't made it that far yet. When i played it some time ago i could do everything, battlenet, and even run it in directx mode for laughs!

My wine version is 0.9.58. I installed warcraft and the expansion from original CDs, and the latest official patch removed the cd-check, so there is not even a crack involved. My last ditch effort was going to be reverting to an old wine version. Now i am out of ideas, and would appreciate any help.

Other 3d games work, other wine games work, i am not even running compiz or anything that might unsettle the system. Please help me make this work.

Marcel W. Wysocki · Post by **Marcel W. Wysocki** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:04 am

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:01:19 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

Interesting. Personally i get a black screen at start. I renamed the Movies and i run with -opengl. If i run with -window i get a black window instead of a black screen. There are countless forum threads about this problem, and not one has a solution. There also seems to be a problem connecting to battle.net, but i haven't made it that far yet. When i played it some time ago i could do everything, battlenet, and even run it in directx mode for laughs!

My wine version is 0.9.58. I installed warcraft and the expansion from original CDs, and the latest official patch removed the cd-check, so there is not even a crack involved. My last ditch effort was going to be reverting to an old wine version. Now i am out of ideas, and would appreciate any help.

Other 3d games work, other wine games work, i am not even running compiz or anything that might unsettle the system. Please help me make this work.

what video card do you have ?

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Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:12 am

Nvidia 7600 GS

When i run it, this is what i get:
hugo@suntzu ~/./d/P/Warcraft III> wine war3.exe -opengl -window
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on Camera, disabling mixer
err:ole:CoCreateInstance apartment not initialised
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x34f3f8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x34f640,0x00000000), stub!

Marcel W. Wysocki · Post by **Marcel W. Wysocki** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:16 am

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:12:40 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

Nvidia 7600 GS

have you tried with a clean .wine directory ?

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Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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John Drescher · Post by **John Drescher** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:24 am

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM, cttw <[email protected]> wrote:

Interesting. Personally i get a black screen at start. I renamed the Movies and i run with -opengl.

I do not have the Movies folder renamed. And it works for me with or
without the -opengl switch but I do have an GeForce4 Ti 4200 which can
work fine without the opengl switch. Newer nVidia cards removed some
functionality from the GPU that makes -opengl a requirement.

If i run with -window i get a black window instead of a black screen. There are countless forum threads about this problem, and not one has a solution. There also seems to be a problem connecting to battle.net, but i haven't made it that far yet. When i played it some time ago i could do everything, battlenet, and even run it in directx mode for laughs!

I heard that battlenet does not work with wine versions > 0.9.48 but
for me that is fine because I never use that.

My wine version is 0.9.58. I installed warcraft and the expansion from original CDs, and the latest official patch removed the cd-check, so there is not even a crack involved. My last ditch effort was going to be reverting to an old wine version. Now i am out of ideas, and would appreciate any help.

Using wc3 in wine in the last 3 years has not required a crack. Well
at least for me.

John

cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:35 am

Marcel W. Wysocki wrote:On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:12:40 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

Nvidia 7600 GS

have you tried with a clean .wine directory ?

--
Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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No. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game, but the .wine directory has been on a quite long lived home partition. So i will do it.

Can i save my installs? Like the installed game folder and the registry? Or is that what i should be getting rid of?

cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:39 am

John Drescher wrote:I heard that battlenet does not work with wine versions > 0.9.48 but
for me that is fine because I never use that.

Unfortunately i pretty much only play on battle.net.

David Gerard · Post by **David Gerard** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:51 am

On 08/04/2008, cttw <[email protected]> wrote:

No. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game, but the .wine directory has been on a quite long lived home partition. So i will do it.
Can i save my installs? Like the installed game folder and the registry? Or is that what i should be getting rid of?

You can try a different wineprefix without actually deleting the old
one - try creating a fresh wineprefix and install it in that. From the
command-line, do something like:

export WINEPREFIX=.wine-warcraft
wineprefixcreate

- this creates an entirely fresh fake Windows directory, and you can
then try to install afresh in that.

If that works, you know Wine works, and you can then experiment with
what files need to be copied over for saved games, etc. to be loaded.

- d.

Marcel W. Wysocki · Post by **Marcel W. Wysocki** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:54 am

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:39:30 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

John Drescher wrote:
I heard that battlenet does not work with wine versions > 0.9.48 but
for me that is fine because I never use that.

Unfortunately i pretty much only play on battle.net.

theres a patch here to make bnet work again:
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9787

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Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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Marcel W. Wysocki · Post by **Marcel W. Wysocki** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:14 am

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:35:33 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

Marcel W. Wysocki wrote:
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:12:40 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

Nvidia 7600 GS

have you tried with a clean .wine directory ?

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Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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No. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game, but the .wine directory has been on a quite long lived home partition. So i will do it.

Can i save my installs? Like the installed game folder and the registry? Or is that what i should be getting rid of?

just make a backup of your .wine directory
mv .wine .wine_bak
then run wineprefixcreate

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Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:29 am

I renamed .wine, created a new one with wineprefixcreate, installed and now it works! I had to rename the movies still, but battle.net works without any further changes.

I should have tried this on my own, but because of my early (2005) successes with wine i had assumed i would never have to reinstall the windows stuff, since i would just carry my /home around as i changed system.

A great thank you to all that helped.

Marcel W. Wysocki · Post by **Marcel W. Wysocki** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:33 am

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:29:13 -0500
"cttw" <[email protected]> wrote:

I renamed .wine, created a new one with wineprefixcreate, installed and now it works! I had to rename the movies still, but battle.net works without any further changes.

I should have tried this on my own, but because of my early (2005) successes with wine i had assumed i would never have to reinstall the windows stuff, since i would just carry my /home around as i changed system.

A great thank you to all that helped.

the registry and stuff may change with newer wine versions.
just run wineprefixcreate everytime you updated wine and it should be fine.

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Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:52 am

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, cttw <[email protected]> wrote:

I renamed .wine, created a new one with wineprefixcreate, installed and now it works! I had to rename the movies still, but battle.net works without any further changes.

I should have tried this on my own, but because of my early (2005) successes with wine i had assumed i would never have to reinstall the windows stuff, since i would just carry my /home around as i changed system.

A great thank you to all that helped.

Could you try:
$ mv .wine .wine.works
$ mv .wine.bak .wine
$ wineprefixcreate

To see if it will fix your old wine install? We're trying to find any
bugs with wineprefixcreate, and this would help.

cttw · Post by **cttw** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:40 am

I switched back to the old .wine folder, ran wineprefixcreate and warcraft still wouldn't work.