Hey, I am new here but I wanted to know what code differences are there in crossover wine and opensource wine. I know the crossover uses wineloader to load programs and in opensource wine it uses mwine. So there must be some code difference.
Any help is appreciated
Thnx
Wine and Crossover
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James Huk
Wine and Crossover
2009/7/6 mac_tester <[email protected]>
you have list of apps that *must* work with every release. Crossover is
tested for regressions with this programs in mind, and there are changes
made in crossover code for compatibility with this apps. And of course if
something doesn't work there is technical support (Codewavers actually
provide support also for wine – of course you have to pay for it).
So in short – wine is best for development and testing, Crossover is best
where reliability is a must (if you want to run some PCs with Word and Excel
for example Crossover is probably a better solution) – in theory at least.
And of course I should mention that Crossover is pretty nice gui for
installation and management of your programs...
Also keep in mind that Codewavers actually hires most of wine top developers
– so supporting Crossover=Supporting wine
Sorry for the English - this was written in a hurry ;]
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from crossover are available in wine sooner or later. However in crossoverHey, I am new here but I wanted to know what code differences are there in
crossover wine and opensource wine. I know the crossover uses wineloader to
load programs and in opensource wine it uses mwine. So there must be some
code difference.
Any help is appreciated
Thnx
From what I know – crossover is wine+patches for certain apps. All patches
you have list of apps that *must* work with every release. Crossover is
tested for regressions with this programs in mind, and there are changes
made in crossover code for compatibility with this apps. And of course if
something doesn't work there is technical support (Codewavers actually
provide support also for wine – of course you have to pay for it).
So in short – wine is best for development and testing, Crossover is best
where reliability is a must (if you want to run some PCs with Word and Excel
for example Crossover is probably a better solution) – in theory at least.
And of course I should mention that Crossover is pretty nice gui for
installation and management of your programs...
Also keep in mind that Codewavers actually hires most of wine top developers
– so supporting Crossover=Supporting wine
Sorry for the English - this was written in a hurry ;]
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Beartooth
Wine and Crossover
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:39:12 +0200, James Huk wrote:
[....]
you're running is just the free trial version.
I don't know of any reason any more not to prefer OpenOffice over
M$ products under an emulator, but there may be some; and of course all
major sources offer software meant for a whole range of office uses,
especially in business offices -- that is CXO's main thrust, though they
also offer a lot more.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
[....]
They are also unfailingly friendly and helpful, even if whatAlso keep in mind that Codeweavers actually hires most of wine top
developers – so supporting Crossover=Supporting wine
you're running is just the free trial version.
I don't know of any reason any more not to prefer OpenOffice over
M$ products under an emulator, but there may be some; and of course all
major sources offer software meant for a whole range of office uses,
especially in business offices -- that is CXO's main thrust, though they
also offer a lot more.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
Wine and Crossover
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Beartooth<[email protected]> wrote:
Microsoft Office isn't. If you don't need the bloat/extra features of
Microsoft Office, then why give Microsoft money for something you
don't need.
Shop with your wallet, and don't support products just because they're
popular. Support them because you like/prefer them.
--
-Austin
Perhaps because OpenOffice is a free (beer & libre) project, whereas    I don't know of any reason any more not to prefer OpenOffice over
M$ products under an emulator, but there may be some; and of course all
major sources offer software meant for a whole range of office uses,
especially in business offices -- that is CXO's main thrust, though they
also offer a lot more.
Microsoft Office isn't. If you don't need the bloat/extra features of
Microsoft Office, then why give Microsoft money for something you
don't need.
Shop with your wallet, and don't support products just because they're
popular. Support them because you like/prefer them.
--
-Austin
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Beartooth Comcast
Wine and Crossover
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Austin English wrote:
software -- so this may be a Very Dumb Question. Is the scuttlebutt
I see, to the effect that OO can do anything M$ Office can, mostly
better and more reliably (including output Office formats) -- is
that not so?
exclusively, now that I no longer need M$ even to make my GPSs talk
to my topo maps.
--
Beartooth Implacable
Death is not evil. Suffering is evil.
Guns are not evil. Tyranny is evil.
I've never been in business, let alone used businessPerhaps because OpenOffice is a free (beer & libre) project, whereas
Microsoft Office isn't. If you don't need the bloat/extra features
of
Microsoft Office, then why give Microsoft money for something you
don't need.
software -- so this may be a Very Dumb Question. Is the scuttlebutt
I see, to the effect that OO can do anything M$ Office can, mostly
better and more reliably (including output Office formats) -- is
that not so?
Indeed, in thunder. That's why I run Fedora -- soonShop with your wallet, and don't support products just because they're
popular. Support them because you like/prefer them.
exclusively, now that I no longer need M$ even to make my GPSs talk
to my topo maps.
--
Beartooth Implacable
Death is not evil. Suffering is evil.
Guns are not evil. Tyranny is evil.
Wine and Crossover
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Beartooth Comcast<[email protected]> wrote:
If you mean, can OO do everything Microsoft Office can, then no. The
same goes for Microsoft Office, which can't do everything OO can do.
If you mean, can OO open Office formats reliably? In my experience, it
depends. Documents with crazy formatting often break, though the same
occurs between Microsoft Office versions (I see this at work between
2003/2007 nearly daily). For most documents, it works well.
Though, in my case, I don't care to support Office formats. I don't
operate a business, so it's not critical to me. I've written all my
papers for school in OO. When professors ask for a computer format, I
send .odt/.pdf. No one has complained yet.
Microsoft Office will remain the status quo unless people actively
fight it. Just because OO supports Office formats doesn't mean you
have to.
Lastly, fwiw, we use Microsoft and Open Office at my workplace. I use
Open Office for spreadsheets, since I'm usually working with flat text
files, which Excel butchers, but calc helpfully asks me if I want to
preserve formatting whenever I open.
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-Austin
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Austin English wrote:
    I've never been in business, let alone used business software -- soPerhaps because OpenOffice is a free (beer & libre) project, whereas
Microsoft Office isn't. If you don't need the bloat/extra features of
Microsoft Office, then why give Microsoft money for something you
don't need.
this may be a Very Dumb Question. Is the scuttlebutt I see, to the effect
that OO can do anything M$ Office can, mostly better and more reliably
(including output Office formats) -- is that not so?
If you mean, can OO do everything Microsoft Office can, then no. The
same goes for Microsoft Office, which can't do everything OO can do.
If you mean, can OO open Office formats reliably? In my experience, it
depends. Documents with crazy formatting often break, though the same
occurs between Microsoft Office versions (I see this at work between
2003/2007 nearly daily). For most documents, it works well.
Though, in my case, I don't care to support Office formats. I don't
operate a business, so it's not critical to me. I've written all my
papers for school in OO. When professors ask for a computer format, I
send .odt/.pdf. No one has complained yet.
Microsoft Office will remain the status quo unless people actively
fight it. Just because OO supports Office formats doesn't mean you
have to.
Lastly, fwiw, we use Microsoft and Open Office at my workplace. I use
Open Office for spreadsheets, since I'm usually working with flat text
files, which Excel butchers, but calc helpfully asks me if I want to
preserve formatting whenever I open.
--
-Austin
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Beartooth
Wine and Crossover
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:37:54 -0500, Austin English wrote:
[....]
[....]
I yield to no man nor woman in detestation of all emanations,
miasmas, and mental pollution from Redmond -- than which there is nothing
else, afaik.
My tentative wording arises not from doubt, but from the fact
that my own experience with CXO, two or three years ago, concerned only
topographic map software and GPSs. I don't launch any word processor
three times in an average year.
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Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
Delenda est MegaSleazo!
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Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
[....]
Yes, that's what I meant, thanks.I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
If you mean, can OO do everything Microsoft Office can, then no. The
same goes for Microsoft Office, which can't do everything OO can do.
[....]
[....]Though, in my case, I don't care to support Office formats.[....]
Microsoft Office will remain the status quo unless people actively fight
it. Just because OO supports Office formats doesn't mean you have to.
I yield to no man nor woman in detestation of all emanations,
miasmas, and mental pollution from Redmond -- than which there is nothing
else, afaik.
My tentative wording arises not from doubt, but from the fact
that my own experience with CXO, two or three years ago, concerned only
topographic map software and GPSs. I don't launch any word processor
three times in an average year.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
Delenda est MegaSleazo!
--
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
