Kubuntu and Wine Problems

pongolo · Post by **pongolo** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:48 pm

I have run into a few problems in getting applications to work with Kubuntu. I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 and Wine 1.1.23.

If installing an application, I get errors during the process and the installation is aborted. If just running certain executables, the Wine Loader shows up in the task bar but the disappears after a few seconds without the application running.

I was able to install Call Of Duty 2 in an Ubuntu virtualbox under my Kubuntu box and it installed without any problems.

I am wondering if I am missing some files or packages needed to properly run Wine on Kubuntu. I have uninstalled and reinstalled wine with the same results. Can anyone let me know if there are additional packages needed to run Wine under Kubuntu as opposed to Ubuntu?

Thanks,
Freddie

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:59 pm

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM, pongolo<[email protected]> wrote:

I have run into a few problems in getting applications to work with Kubuntu. Â I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 and Wine 1.1.23.

If installing an application, I get errors during the process and the installation is aborted. Â If just running certain executables, the Wine Loader shows up in the task bar but the disappears after a few seconds without the application running.

I was able to install Call Of Duty 2 in an Ubuntu virtualbox under my Kubuntu box and it installed without any problems.

I am wondering if I am missing some files or packages needed to properly run Wine on Kubuntu. I have uninstalled and reinstalled wine with the same results. Â Can anyone let me know if there are additional packages needed to run Wine under Kubuntu as opposed to Ubuntu?

Should be the same...only difference is desktop stuff...Make sure
you're using a clean ~/.wine. Does 'wine notepad' work?

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-Austin

pongolo · Post by **pongolo** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:33 pm

I have deleted the .wine folder and also tried using WINEPREFIX with the same results. Notepad does work.

What I don't understand is that the Ubuntu installation I created inside a virtualbox in Kubuntu was able to install Call of Duty 2 without any problems.

If the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the desktop interface, why is it that I can install the program under Ubuntu but not under Kubuntu? I have tried the installation on a friend's Kubuntu with the same results.

Thanks,
Freddie

austin987 · Post by **austin987** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:08 pm

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM, pongolo<[email protected]> wrote:

I have deleted the .wine folder and also tried using WINEPREFIX with the same results. Â Notepad does work.

What I don't understand is that the Ubuntu installation I created inside a virtualbox in Kubuntu was able to install Call of Duty 2 without any problems.

If the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the desktop interface, why is it that I can install the program under Ubuntu but not under Kubuntu? Â I have tried the installation on a friend's Kubuntu with the same results.

That'd be a better question for Canonical...maybe it uses a different
kernel? Or some other package difference.

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-Austin

Sjors Gielen · Post by **Sjors Gielen** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:51 pm

Austin English wrote:

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM, pongolo<[email protected]> wrote:
I have deleted the .wine folder and also tried using WINEPREFIX with the same results. Notepad does work.

What I don't understand is that the Ubuntu installation I created inside a virtualbox in Kubuntu was able to install Call of Duty 2 without any problems.

If the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the desktop interface, why is it that I can install the program under Ubuntu but not under Kubuntu? I have tried the installation on a friend's Kubuntu with the same results.
That'd be a better question for Canonical...maybe it uses a different
kernel? Or some other package difference.

Pongolo and Austin,

Positive, the only difference is KDE versus Gnome. Both use exactly the
same repository and are in essence exactly the same distribution,
including exactly the same versions of packages; the only difference is
that for Kubuntu KDE is initially installed (as a dependency of
kubuntu-desktop), and Ubuntu has Gnome by default (as a dependency of
ubuntu-desktop).

Yet that doesn't explain why Wine would be having problems on all
Kubuntu installations, and not on all Ubuntu installations. I'm thinking
it's either a problem in KDE specifically - which I have doubts about -
or you *think* the difference is between Ubuntu and Kubuntu while it's
not; when I hear this story I think chances are it worked in your VM
because that was a fresh install or it had different drivers; and it
didn't work on your friends Kubuntu install because it either had the
same or similar drivers, or it wasn't a fresh install either.

File bugs for the problems you are having (what are the errors? etc),
then wait until they are solved accordingly - and only keep in mind that
it *could* be ubuntu/kubuntu-related. If you have some time and some
free disk space, please try installing a fresh Ubuntu on there and see
if it works; if it does, try installing a fresh Kubuntu and see if it
works then. That's the only way to be sure, but I seriously doubt that
has to do with your problems.

Sjors

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pongolo · Post by **pongolo** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:51 pm

Thanks for the info. The Kubuntu I'm using was a fresh install as of this last weekend. All bugs and patches installed. I'm thoroughly baffled as I've read here of many people being able to run apps under Kubuntu but I'm having all sorts of problems.

I'll post over in the Kubuntu boards and see if I can get additional info on there. I appreciate any additional info on how to troubleshoot this problem.

Thanks,
Freddie

mkrista · Post by **mkrista** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:12 pm

pongolo wrote:

Thanks for the info. The Kubuntu I'm using was a fresh install as of this last weekend. All bugs and patches installed. I'm thoroughly baffled as I've read here of many people being able to run apps under Kubuntu but I'm having all sorts of problems.

I'll post over in the Kubuntu boards and see if I can get additional info on there. I appreciate any additional info on how to troubleshoot this problem.

Thanks,
Freddie

Just checking your Running a Vbox kbuntu or native

Evil Jay · Post by **Evil Jay** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:19 am

Austin English wrote:

That'd be a better question for Canonical...maybe it uses a different
kernel? Or some other package difference.

Definitely not a question for Canonical, as they don't provide a 1.1.23
package (just 1.0.1).

It has to be something with his system or the package. I'm running
1.1.23 on Kubuntu (Karmic, even) here with no problem.

@pongolo: My suggestion would be to compile Wine from Git ('sudo
apt-get build-dep wine, then grab the source -
http://wiki.winehq.org/GitWine#head-f90 ... aecc72ad18)
and see if you get different results. If that works, it's a problem you
can report to the package maintainer. If it doesn't, there's something
wrong with your system.

Posting the exact errors you receive will help us troubleshoot further.

fearmac · Post by **fearmac** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:56 pm

I've just installed wine on Kubuntu 9.04. I used it previously in 8.04 and 8.10 without any problems. Now it just wont work!! If I right click on an .exe I don't get the option to open with Wine like I used to.

I installed through Synaptic so it should be Ok.

I'll keep trying

Just a home user fed up with MicroS**t

pongolo · Post by **pongolo** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:40 pm

Thanks for all the info. For clarification, the Kubuntu is the native OS and the Ubuntu is running in Virtualbox.

I got some more info on the Kubuntu forum website. I'll try the suggestions I've received here and on the other forum.

I'll report back on whether any worked.

Thanks again,
Freddie

PS: I'm also fed up with M$!!!

pongolo · Post by **pongolo** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:27 pm

Here's the latest...

I moved the Call of Duty 2 installation (.wine folder) from the Ubuntu virtualbox to the native Kubuntu and tried starting the game. The audio played but no video. I quit the program and tried adding some code I found on the web to get COD2 working to one of the .wine config files. That helped to get the intro sequence but I did not get the menus after the intro. I looked at my hardware drivers and had not realized that the Nvidia drivers were not active. I activated the driver and restarted and was able to run COD2. It runs very well, even at the highest resolution.

Next, I tried installing Battlefield 1942 but the program aborted during the first checks on installation. I saw that a new version of wine was recently released and I upgraded to wine 1.1.24. I tried installing Battlefield 1942 and did not run into any problems. The installation started fine. Unfortunately I do not have enough space left on /home to install it but I got much farther than the previous attempts. I believe it probably would have installed without any issues.

It appears that I had a video driver problem coupled with some other problem with the previous release of wine (1.1.23). All seems to work now.

Thanks again for all your help,
Freddie