TES4: Oblivion crashes for unknown reasons

[byjove01]

Heya, everything is in the title. I was actually able to play Oblivion in a stable way, and suddenly everything breaks up : my installation is no longer detected, so I reinstall it and try to launch the game without mods, it still crashes.

I know Bethesda games are probably one of the most buggy in the world, but this time I'm not sure it's related to that, notably since I reinstalled the game. Seems like it's Wine doing whatever.

Here is the bug report I got from Wine: https://pastebin.com/Cf6W9pNJ
You just have to ask if you need more details.

Arch Linux, graphic drivers up-to-date, and no useless Wine dependencies activated if not quartz in native. Thanks in advance.

[jkfloris]

Can you also post the full terminal output?

[byjove01]

Here it is. https://pastebin.com/niRqz5SC

[byjove01]

So. ?

[Bob Wya]

@byjove01

You are probably better off building the TKG PKGBUILDS against your current Arch libraries.
Older pre-built binaries can be unreliable - on a fast moving distribution like Arch.

What is the output from:

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inxi -C -G

on your system??

Ta
Bob

[byjove01]

Well, so you're insinuating I should rebuild Wine-TKG each time I do an update ? I made my build just by downloading it with yay.

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CPU:       Info: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3 MiB 
           Speed: 3647 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3647 2: 3227 3: 3930 4: 3934 5: 2299 6: 3954 7: 3962 
           8: 3689 9: 3652 10: 3234 11: 2369 12: 3777 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 [Radeon RX 5600 OEM/5600 XT / 5700/5700 XT] driver: amdgpu 
           v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: amdgpu,ati unloaded: modesetting,radeon,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (NAVI10 DRM 3.40.0 5.10.16-arch1-1 LLVM 11.1.0) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.4 

[Bob Wya]

Well, so you're insinuating I should rebuild Wine-TKG each time I do an update ? I made my build just by downloading it with yay.

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@byjove01

Sure, that makes sense - I hate manual compilation as well!

You could re-test Oblivion - with the stock Arch wine-staging package plus dxvk-bin ...

If that still doesn't work - then you might need:

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winetricks -q d3dx9_27

Good luck!

Bob

[byjove01]

Well, so you're insinuating I should rebuild Wine-TKG each time I do an update ? I made my build just by downloading it with yay.

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@byjove01

Sure, that makes sense - I hate manual compilation as well!

You could re-test Oblivion - with the stock Arch wine-staging package plus dxvk-bin ...

If that still doesn't work - then you might need:

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winetricks -q d3dx9_27

Good luck!

Bob

Well it didn't work, sadly. I am starting to think it's in relation in the game itself, but I'm not sure. Is there something in the log that could confim it?

[Bob Wya]

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Well it didn't work, sadly. I am starting to think it's in relation in the game itself, but I'm not sure. Is there something in the log that could confirm it?

@byjove01

It could be useful to add some basic WINEDEBUG channels:

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export WINEDEBUG=+loaddll,+wgl,+vulkan

and post an updated Wine terminal log.

Bob

[byjove01]

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Well it didn't work, sadly. I am starting to think it's in relation in the game itself, but I'm not sure. Is there something in the log that could confirm it?

@byjove01

It could be useful to add some basic WINEDEBUG channels:

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export WINEDEBUG=+loaddll,+wgl,+vulkan

and post an updated Wine terminal log.

Bob

How can I do that on Lutris ? Doing it with the terminal gives me the same report than what I got without this

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export

command, maybe it will better if I do this via Lutris.

[byjove01]

Welll, I'm gonna try with the terminal, so.

[byjove01]

Can't work since even on terminal it doesn't recognize the export WINEDEBUG command. It even can't read correctly and considers +wgl as some cmd... I'm blocked.

[Bob Wya]

Can't work since even on terminal it doesn't recognize the export WINEDEBUG command. It even can't read correctly and considers +wgl as some cmd... I'm blocked.

@byjove01

Nobody will be able to help much without you posting the exact command you've used and the terminal output, from said command...

Are you using an esoteric shell perhaps?

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env | grep SHELL

As there is no reason that an export command shouldn't work, in a regular Linux shell environment (e.g. BASH).

Ta
Bob

[byjove01]

Ok, somehow got it working. Here is the pastebin : https://pastebin.com/XxBwv7dq
It's all I could get after typing the commands you gave me.

@Bob Wya

[Bob Wya]

Ok, somehow got it working. Here is the pastebin : https://pastebin.com/XxBwv7dq
It's all I could get after typing the commands you gave me.

@byjove01

We'd still need the full command - used to launch the game.

I would be something like:

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export WINEDEBUG=+loaddll,+wgl,+vulkan
wine start 'Z:\media\gaming_ssd\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe' &>"${HOME}/wine-staging-6.4-obvilion.log"

Which would log the terminal output to the path: wine-staging-6.4-obvilion.log - in your standard Linux User Home directory.

Is this a retail / disc-based copy of Oblivion, or a digital (download) version?
Note: it can cause issues - if a game / application is installed outside of your current / specified WINEPREFIX ...

Ta
Bob

[byjove01]

Ok, somehow got it working. Here is the pastebin : https://pastebin.com/XxBwv7dq
It's all I could get after typing the commands you gave me.

@byjove01

We'd still need the full command - used to launch the game.

I would be something like:

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export WINEDEBUG=+loaddll,+wgl,+vulkan
wine start 'Z:\media\gaming_ssd\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe' &>"${HOME}/wine-staging-6.4-obvilion.log"

Which would log the terminal output to the path: wine-staging-6.4-obvilion.log - in your standard Linux User Home directory.

Is this a retail / disc-based copy of Oblivion, or a digital (download) version?
Note: it can cause issues - if a game / application is installed outside of your current / specified WINEPREFIX ...

Ta
Bob

My game is indeed installed outside of my Wine prefix, but I don't have the choice since most of my games are in a specific drive. It's a disc-based copy of Oblivion, with OBSE, 4Gb-patched exe and all OBSE plugins (that works, tried to remove them and launch the game yet).

Here is the full command set, sorry for not giving it before, didn't get what you said this way:

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> cd "/media/gaming_ssd/Bethesda Softworks/Oblivion"
> export WINEDEBUG=+loaddll,+wgl,+vulkan
> export WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.wine_x86
> wine obse_loader.exe

[byjove01]

Didn't find the file which you mentioned the name, even in my personal folder...