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What is missing here ? Please help

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The old version of this program from 2014 was installable, see: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=16352

Now with the new Version from 2015 I have problems.
Can somebody tell me from the shared terminal output, what I'm eventually missing (e.g. some DLL):
Tax 2015_install.log.zip
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Re: What is missing here ? Please help

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ich@Ulfuntu:~$ WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 /media/ich/tax2015/Setup/setup.exe
That's not the correct way to start apps from the command line. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal
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dimesio wrote:That's not the correct way to start apps from the command line. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal
Thanks for your hint!
I now tried:

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ich@Ulfuntu:/media/ich/tax2015/Setup$ WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 wine setup.exe
But I got similar results.
The installer still has problems to install these 2 Redistributable Packages:
tax 2015_installer.png
Can I install them otherwise?
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Re: What is missing here ? Please help

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I also tried:

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ich@Ulfuntu:~$ WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 wine start /Unix '/media/ich/tax2015/Setup/setup.exe'
with same erroneous result.
/media/ich/tax2015 is the path to the CD-ROM.
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UlfZibis wrote: The installer still has problems to install these 2 Redistributable Packages:
Install them with winetricks. http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
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dimesio wrote:Install them with winetricks. http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
Please excuse, I do not understand how to do that.
1) I do not find the "Microsoft Visual C++ XYZ Redistributable Packages" in the list of DLLs in winetricks. Maybe they are named different, can you tell me?
2) Here is the interesting partial content of the installer CD. Can I install those via winetricks and how? :

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ich@Ulfuntu:/media/ich/tax2015/Setup/ISSetupPrerequisites$ ls -oR
.:
insgesamt 33
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {074EE22F-2485-4FED-83D1-AAC36C3D9ED0}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {270b0954-35ca-4324-bbc6-ba5db9072dad}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {340b0957-35ca-1324-bbc9-ba5db9082dad}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {531950bf-fab7-4434-8ca7-b5893ab197f8}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {57bcd1d4-2de9-49d9-bc0c-3f4263e9970e}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {7f53ac5d-d59d-4f72-b8d3-2cc3bb6383ce}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {7f66a156-bc3b-479d-9703-65db354235cc}
dr-xr-xr-x 2 ich 2048 Okt 31  2014 {D3C742E6-45DB-4895-9A20-707C33C582E8}
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 2533 Okt 31  2014 Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 1520 Okt 31  2014 Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 (Windows Feature).prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 2286 Okt 31  2014 Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64).prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 2378 Okt 31  2014 Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86).prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 2081 Okt 31  2014 Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable Package (x86).prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 1261 Okt 31  2014 Windows Installer 3.1 for Windows Server 2003 SP1 (x64).prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 1221 Okt 31  2014 Windows Installer 3.1 for Windows XP (x64).prq
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 1613 Okt 31  2014 Windows Installer 3.1 (x86).prq

./{074EE22F-2485-4FED-83D1-AAC36C3D9ED0}:
insgesamt 237180
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 242743296 Okt 31  2014 dotnetfx35.exe
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich    128472 Okt 31  2014 Helper.exe

./{270b0954-35ca-4324-bbc6-ba5db9072dad}:
insgesamt 4879
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 4995416 Okt 31  2014 vcredist_x86.exe

./{340b0957-35ca-1324-bbc9-ba5db9082dad}:
insgesamt 6348
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 6499816 Okt 31  2014 vcredist_x86.exe

./{531950bf-fab7-4434-8ca7-b5893ab197f8}:
insgesamt 4478
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 4584688 Okt 31  2014 WindowsXP-KB898715-x64-enu.exe

./{57bcd1d4-2de9-49d9-bc0c-3f4263e9970e}:
insgesamt 2526
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 2585872 Okt 31  2014 WindowsInstaller-KB893803-v2-x86.exe

./{7f53ac5d-d59d-4f72-b8d3-2cc3bb6383ce}:
insgesamt 4478
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 4584688 Okt 31  2014 WindowsServer2003-KB898715-x64-enu.exe

./{7f66a156-bc3b-479d-9703-65db354235cc}:
insgesamt 5541
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 5673816 Okt 31  2014 vcredist_x64.exe

./{D3C742E6-45DB-4895-9A20-707C33C582E8}:
insgesamt 166
-r-xr-xr-x 1 ich 169912 Okt 31  2014 Helper.exe
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Re: What is missing here ? Please help

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Install them with

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winetricks vcrun2010 vcrun2013
No, you cannot install the things on your CD with winetricks. Winetricks downloads the redistributables.
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dimesio wrote:Install them with

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winetricks vcrun2010 vcrun2013
No, you cannot install the things on your CD with winetricks. Winetricks downloads the redistributables.
Now I found out, that there is no need to install vcrun2010, vcrun2013 with winetricks, as the Tax-2015 installer anyway installs its own ones from its CD.
The real problem here is, that wine-1.6.2 doesn't work anymore on Ubuntu 15.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1484840
To workaround, I have installed wine1.7, see: viewtopic.php?p=101544#p101544
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Now I see, that running the Update of Tax-2014 is no more possible:
Tax 2014 Update failed.png
Do you see any solution?
Much thanks again in advance!
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UlfZibis wrote: Now I found out, that there is no need to install vcrun2010, vcrun2013 with winetricks, as the Tax-2015 installer anyway installs its own ones from its CD.
Yes, there is. Winetricks does more than just run the installer; it also adds the needed overrides, which your app's installer won't.
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dimesio wrote:Yes, there is. Winetricks does more than just run the installer; it also adds the needed overrides, which your app's installer won't.
Hm, but my Tax-2014 runs perfect without the winetricks modules, so why should I need them?
Which order do you suggest, first install the runtimes via the application installer and then overwrite with winetricks or vice versa?

Maybe I need it for running the Update.exe. I'll try that (but first want to know the right order).
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UlfZibis wrote: Hm, but my Tax-2014 runs perfect without the winetricks modules, so why should I need them?
In that case you don't. What that means is that Wine's builtin vcrun is sufficient.
Which order do you suggest, first install the runtimes via the application installer and then overwrite with winetricks or vice versa?
You would have to install with winetricks first, as winetricks will detect the runtime if it has already been installed and not do anything.
Maybe I need it for running the Update.exe.
Possibly, but looking at the terminal output behind the error message in your most recent screenshot I see a line that ends with "noexec filesystem?" That could be the cause of your problem; make sure the partition you have installed the app to is mounted exec.
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Much thanks for all your hints again!
dimesio wrote:Possibly, but looking at the terminal output behind the error message in your most recent screenshot I see a line that ends with "noexec filesystem?" That could be the cause of your problem; make sure the partition you have installed the app to is mounted exec.
Well, the xxxUpdateyyy.exe is located on a NTFS file system, which is mounted with defaults option, which includes the exec option and the file is listed with rwxrwxrwx permissions, so it should be executable. :? Maybe a bug in the ntfs-3g driver, but I copied the xxxUpdateyyy.exe to my home dir and from there I was able to execute it with wine. :D So much thanks for the hint.
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dimesio wrote:Install them with

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winetricks vcrun2010 vcrun2013
Ok, as you suggested earlier, I now tried this - with wine1.7 - before installing my App, but I got:

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Unknown arg vcrun2013
Usage: /usr/bin/winetricks [options] [verb|path-to-verb] ...

wine --version
wine-1.7.44
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Sounds like your winetricks version is old. Get the current version from https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Winet ... winetricks.
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Thanks again.
I have directly replaced /usr/bin/winetricks and now it works fine.

For your note: I also have filed a bug. You may correct the description, if I was not precise enough:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1485481
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