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trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:26 am

I have a truly remarkable program running under wine, Topaz Denoise AI, flat amazing for taking noise out of digital photos.

I got it running just using defaults in a manual install under Playonlinux, using default integrated Intel graphics on a 10 year old Dell with an I5-2400. Of course it is quite slow.

Attempted to get it running with an old but working Radeon 6450 GPU, not a great card, but still has twice the throughput of my integrated Intel graphics. Manual install again on my Manjaro system, adding only the "POL_Install_VideoDriver" step in the install.

Errors I get are primarily, two, one is "winediag:wined3d_get_user_override_gpu_description Invalid GPU override 1002:6778 specified, ignoring."
and second is (repeated 3 times, "00f8:fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB unsupported 2008 WGL Attribute"

I recognize I may not be able to get this card working in this instance, scanned several posts about these errors and tried loading other attributes besides just the video driver, and got new errors rather than fixing the original ones. I thought being an old card it would be well supported, but maybe it's TOO old.

I down rated my Mesa drivers to mesa-20.3.4-3-X86_64 recently when the 21.0.0 drivers stopped the program from working at all. Most likely a Mesa bug, since the older driver works fine. I don't think it has anything to do with the Radeon not working under this program on Wine.

Opinions?

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:33 pm

I have just noticed that there is an error at the end of the error log I missed, with no fixme attached.

It is this: 0094:err:rpc:I_RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x1c010003

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:23 pm

Here is the log. I have noticed the closing error is associated with a recent bug, but I don't know if my error has the same cause.
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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by Bob Wya » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:41 pm

@mlytle0

Unfortunately PlayOnLinux is not supported on this website.
See: 8.7 I used a third party application (PlayOnLinux, WineBottler, etc.) to install or manage applications in Wine and need help.

Can you re-test your application with stock wine, or wine-staging, version 6.7 ?

Logs should be posted as text logs - not screenshots.
See: 10.1.1 How can I get a debugging log (a.k.a. terminal output)?

What's the output from:

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inxi -CG
on your system?

It would be helpful to see the difference between Mesa versions 20.3.4 and 21.0.0 ...

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 pm

[mark2@mark2-optiplex790 ~]$ inxi -CG
CPU:
Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-2400 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
L2: 6 MiB
Speed: 1596 MHz min/max: 1600/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1596
3: 1596 4: 1596
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Caicos XT [Radeon HD 7470/8470 / R5 235/310 OEM]
driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,radeon
unloaded: modesetting resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.112-1-MANJARO LLVM 11.1.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.4
[mark2@mark2-optiplex790 ~]$
I actually tried to get a login for playonlinux website, the site would report it sent me a confirming email, but it would never show up. Yes, checked my spam filter, it never happened.

I assume you just type "wine" space "path to application" to get it running? Not sure what directory to be in or subdirectory.

Wait, I see I still did this wrong, I'm still learning this site. I have to go through the links you gave me.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:17 pm

Wine 6.7 was just released, Manjaro will have it available within a couple of days. I'll run the tests and produce the logs as soon as it I can get 6.7 loaded for both recent versions of Mesa.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by Bob Wya » Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:33 pm

mlytle0 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 pm
[mark2@mark2-optiplex790 ~]$ inxi -CG
CPU:
Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-2400 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
L2: 6 MiB
Speed: 1596 MHz min/max: 1600/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1596
3: 1596 4: 1596
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Caicos XT [Radeon HD 7470/8470 / R5 235/310 OEM]
driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,radeon
unloaded: modesetting resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.112-1-MANJARO LLVM 11.1.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.4
[mark2@mark2-optiplex790 ~]$
I actually tried to get a login for playonlinux website, the site would report it sent me a confirming email, but it would never show up. Yes, checked my spam filter, it never happened.

I assume you just type "wine" space "path to application" to get it running? Not sure what directory to be in or subdirectory.

Wait, I see I still did this wrong, I'm still learning this site. I have to go through the links you gave me.
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See: Wine User's Guide: 3 Using Wine

You could try setting a Core GL Profile (3.3) for your graphics card:

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wine reg add 'HKCU\Software\Wine\Direct3D' /v MaxVersionGL /t REG_DWORD /d 30003
Nothing against PlayOnLinux but, unlike Lutris, development (and support) is not very active. :cry:

At least if you get stuck with vanilla wine or wine-staging, you can file a bug here.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:49 pm

I did see the references to Lutris a few days ago while trying to understand my issues with this install. Wasn't sure if Lutris is an environment that would work for anything other than games though in many ways by providing custom environments for applications, it seems superficially similar, in a good way, to PlayonLinux. I did notice it seemed more developed.
I'm dreading trying to run this application routinely from a command line, and looking for that kind of alternative.

I'll have to study your last suggestion to try to understand what it's doing. Still at the stage of wondering if I do something, how I will undo it if I have to. Used Linux for years but until this flirtation with wine, have never ventured too far into the command line workflow.

Mark.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:29 pm

Just to mention, using mesa 21 with this application on wine takes you to this discussion, which I've been tracking for weeks.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34889

The error you get, which is a mesa bug that they're in no hurry to fix, crashes the application with an GLXBadFBConfig error. One fix is to issue this command 'export MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.5'. Which did not work for me, so I downscaled back to the earlier package which got me working again. Adding the video card caused different problems.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:10 pm

Here is the result of setting a Core GL Profile (3.3) for the graphics card after a fresh install of both playonlinux/wine 6.6 and the application itself, application seemed to almost start, but crashed right away, just as before:

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[04/24/21 21:46:44] - Running wine- --version (Working directory : /usr/share/playonlinux/python)
wine-6.6

PlayOnLinux logfile
-------------------
Date: 04/24/21 21:46:44

> PlayOnLinux Version
  4.3.4
> uname -a
  Linux mark2-optiplex790 5.4.112-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 14 07:47:45 UTC 2021 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> lsb_release -a
  
> wine --version
  wine-6.6
> POL_WINEVERSION
  
> WINEPREFIX
  /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux//wineprefix/denoise
> Distribution
  Manjaro Linux
> glxinfo \| grep rendering
  direct rendering: Yes
> glxinfo \| grep renderer
      GLX_MESA_query_renderer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_query_renderer, 
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
OpenGL renderer string: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.112-1-MANJARO, LLVM 11.1.0)
> OpenGL libs (Direct rendering testing)
  check_dd_x86 missing, test skipped
  check_dd_amd64 missing, test skipped

[04/24/21 21:46:45] - This is a 64bits prefix!
[04/24/21 21:46:50] - Running wine- cmd /c echo %ProgramFiles% (Working directory : /usr/share/playonlinux/python)
C:\Program Files (x86)
[04/24/21 21:48:21] - ----- Starting function POL_Install_VideoDriver -----
[04/24/21 21:48:22] - Running wine- regedit /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux//tmp/VGA_ID_fix.reg (Working directory : /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux/tmp)
[04/24/21 21:48:22] - Content of /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux//tmp/VGA_ID_fix.reg
-----------
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]
"VideoPCIVendorID"=dword:00001002
"VideoPCIDeviceID"=dword:00006778
"VideoDriver"="ati2dvag.dll"
-----------
[04/24/21 21:48:22] - ----- Ending function POL_Install_VideoDriver -----
0094:err:rpc:I_RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x1c010003
[04/24/21 21:48:41] - Running wine- /home/mark2/Downloads/TopazSharpenAI-3.0.3-windows-x64-Online-Installer.exe (Working directory : /)
00f8:fixme:font:find_matching_face Untranslated charset 255
00f8:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
00f8:fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0000000000130074, 00000000010E6450): stub
0124:fixme:winsock:server_ioctl_sock Unsupported ioctl 4004747b (device=4004 access=1 func=d1e method=3)
0124:fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl unsupported WS_IOCTL cmd (SIO_IDEAL_SEND_BACKLOG_QUERY)
0130:fixme:winsock:server_ioctl_sock Unsupported ioctl 4004747b (device=4004 access=1 func=d1e method=3)
0130:fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl unsupported WS_IOCTL cmd (SIO_IDEAL_SEND_BACKLOG_QUERY)
0094:err:rpc:I_RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x1c010003
[04/24/21 21:50:02] - Running wine- cmd /c echo %ProgramFiles% (Working directory : /usr/share/playonlinux/python)
C:\Program Files (x86)
[04/24/21 21:50:33] - ----- Starting function POL_Install_VideoDriver -----
[04/24/21 21:50:34] - Running wine- regedit /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux//tmp/VGA_ID_fix.reg (Working directory : /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux/tmp)
[04/24/21 21:50:34] - Content of /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux//tmp/VGA_ID_fix.reg
-----------
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]
"VideoPCIVendorID"=dword:00001002
"VideoPCIDeviceID"=dword:00006778
"VideoDriver"="ati2dvag.dll"
-----------
[04/24/21 21:50:34] - ----- Ending function POL_Install_VideoDriver -----
[04/24/21 21:50:53] - Running wine- /home/mark2/Downloads/TopazDeNoiseAI-3.0.3-windows-x64-Online-Installer.exe (Working directory : /)
00fc:fixme:font:find_matching_face Untranslated charset 255
00fc:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
00fc:fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0000000000130074, 0000000003D84640): stub
0148:fixme:winsock:server_ioctl_sock Unsupported ioctl 4004747b (device=4004 access=1 func=d1e method=3)
0148:fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl unsupported WS_IOCTL cmd (SIO_IDEAL_SEND_BACKLOG_QUERY)
0154:fixme:winsock:server_ioctl_sock Unsupported ioctl 4004747b (device=4004 access=1 func=d1e method=3)
0154:fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl unsupported WS_IOCTL cmd (SIO_IDEAL_SEND_BACKLOG_QUERY)
0184:fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 00000000 1 00000000 0 stub
0184:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\windows\\Temp\\{010613D3-3801-406D-9595-3A38C9E0617A}\\", 00000000): stub
0190:fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 00000000 1 00000000 0 stub
0190:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\windows\\Temp\\{F57B9DC5-B5C4-48D4-AAE2-ECFDD33076B5}\\", 00000000): stub
019c:fixme:shell:SHAutoComplete stub
0190:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\windows\\Temp\\{F57B9DC5-B5C4-48D4-AAE2-ECFDD33076B5}\\", 00000000): stub
0190:fixme:exec:SHELL_execute flags ignored: 0x00000100
01a4:fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 00000000 1 00000000 0 stub
01a4:fixme:ole:CoInitializeSecurity 0021F5E8, -1, 00000000, 00000000, 6, 2, 00000000, 12288, 00000000 stub
01a4:fixme:wuapi:automatic_updates_Pause 
01a4:fixme:sfc:SRSetRestorePointW 0021F4B0 0021F6C0
01b0:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\ProgramData\\Package Cache\\{7D0362D5-C699-4403-BC09-0C1DAD1D93AB}v14.28.29325\\packages\\vcRuntimeMinimum_amd64\\vc_runtimeMinimum_x64.msi", 00000000): stub
01b0:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\ProgramData\\Package Cache\\{7D0362D5-C699-4403-BC09-0C1DAD1D93AB}v14.28.29325\\packages\\vcRuntimeMinimum_amd64\\cab1.cab", 00000000): stub
01b0:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\ProgramData\\Package Cache\\{26AF0C35-55EC-4025-8D83-349E8FB1419F}v14.28.29325\\packages\\vcRuntimeAdditional_amd64\\vc_runtimeAdditional_x64.msi", 00000000): stu01b0:fixme:advapi:DecryptFileW (L"C:\\ProgramData\\Package Cache\\{26AF0C35-55EC-4025-8D83-349E8FB1419F}v14.28.29325\\packages\\vcRuntimeAdditional_amd64\\cab1.cab", 00000000): stub
01a4:fixme:file:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
01a4:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
01a4:fixme:wuapi:automatic_updates_Resume 
01a4:fixme:ver:GetCurrentPackageId (0021FE94 00000000): stub
0190:fixme:ver:GetCurrentPackageId (0021FE94 00000000): stub
0184:fixme:ver:GetCurrentPackageId (0021FE94 00000000): stub
0200:fixme:msvcp:_Locinfo__Locinfo_ctor_cat_cstr (000000000011F9F0 1 C) semi-stub
0090:err:rpc:I_RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x1c010003
[04/24/21 22:02:47] - Running wine- winepath -u C:\\users\\mark2\\Desktop (Working directory : /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/denoise/drive_c)
/home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux//wineprefix/denoise/dosdevices/c:/users/mark2/Desktop
[04/24/21 22:04:37] - Running wine- Topaz DeNoise AI.exe (Working directory : /home/mark2/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/denoise/drive_c/Program Files/Topaz Labs LLC/Topaz DeNoise AI)

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:50 pm

O.K. so this program is containerized in a sandbox and has a start.exe file placed twice, once in /usr/lib/wine and once in /usr/lib32/wine .
I cd to the former location and ran wine start.exe and it opened up another terminal with Microsoft Windows 6.1.7601 (?) and skips a couple of lines and gives a prompt: z:/usr/lib/wine. It didn't start the application.

Doing the same thing in /usr/lib32/wine gives the same result, except the z prompt reflects the different directory z:/usr/lib32/wine

I found out this was a major hiccup in wine 6.5, which altered the acceptance of that placement of the start.exe file, breaking many programs, mine included. So within playonlinux, I changed the wine version to 6.4 to escape this problem. In wine 6.6 this has been fixed. Full explanation here: "There was a recent comment thread on what happened: start.exe was previously placed in a legacy location (drive_c/windows/command). However, a change in 6.5 made Wine more strict about properly running programs from their intended location."

But with this structure, I don't know how to run this from a terminal, so it might not be possible to troubleshoot this at all. I don't know how to work around this start.exe structure.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:28 pm

Might have found the answer.
Package called Firejail Sandbox. Had to ask the question how is wine dealing with a sandboxed application? How is wine creating a sandboxed application?

Apparently through Firejail. Will now practice running wine under this app to see how it behaves, most likely this is what is inside of PlayonLinux package.
You CAN run with a debug program in tandem.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... -a-sandbox

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:14 pm

While I experiment with shell scripts to use wine outside of the playonlinux environment, I have found by looking at the available log files, that one error that continually shows up no matter what I try, is this alert about wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB, over and over. This is provided through the agency of the Gdi32.dll.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... ixelformat

Gdi32.dll is a .dll that is IMPORTED by this application, from the Windows environment. Recent bug being fixed in Wine 6.7 has something to do with unavailability or missing .dlls. Since this application is sandboxed in order to run, it is miserable to try and figure out if the .dll has been successfully provided. Trying now to figure that out.

In addition, the terminating error on most runs, "0094:err:rpc:I_RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x1c010003", I have found is defined in the RPC codes, and this one specifically means 'unknown interface'

This process is flying blind, can't even recognize the GPU, in spite of me loading a driver. It sounds like information is missing.

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00fc:fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB unsupported 2008 WGL Attribute
00fc:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x8 000000000011EFE0 000000000011EF30 000000000011EFE8) returning a dummy value (current locale)
00fc:fixme:file:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
0114:fixme:file:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
0114:fixme:process:SetProcessShutdownParameters (00000100, 00000001): partial stub.
00fc:fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB unsupported 2008 WGL Attribute
0138:fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB unsupported 2008 WGL Attribute
00fc:fixme:dwmapi:DwmEnableBlurBehindWindow 0000000000020080 000000000011B220
0114:fixme:kernelbase:AppPolicyGetProcessTerminationMethod FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFA, 000000000011FD70

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:19 am

Finally realised I should look in the registry to see what it said about my video card. Duh.

It doesn't know I have one. It's not detected at all, which explains everything, except what I can do about it.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:35 am

Bob Wya wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:33 pm
mlytle0 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 pm
[mark2@mark2-optiplex790 ~]$ inxi -CG
CPU:
Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-2400 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
L2: 6 MiB
Speed: 1596 MHz min/max: 1600/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1596
3: 1596 4: 1596
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Caicos XT [Radeon HD 7470/8470 / R5 235/310 OEM]
driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,radeon
unloaded: modesetting resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.112-1-MANJARO LLVM 11.1.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.4
[mark2@mark2-optiplex790 ~]$
I actually tried to get a login for playonlinux website, the site would report it sent me a confirming email, but it would never show up. Yes, checked my spam filter, it never happened.

I assume you just type "wine" space "path to application" to get it running? Not sure what directory to be in or subdirectory.

Wait, I see I still did this wrong, I'm still learning this site. I have to go through the links you gave me.
@mlytle0

See: Wine User's Guide: 3 Using Wine

You could try setting a Core GL Profile (3.3) for your graphics card:

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wine reg add 'HKCU\Software\Wine\Direct3D' /v MaxVersionGL /t REG_DWORD /d 30003
Nothing against PlayOnLinux but, unlike Lutris, development (and support) is not very active. :cry:

At least if you get stuck with vanilla wine or wine-staging, you can file a bug here.

Bob

Looks like my wine registry says the card doesn't exist. May not be a wine problem at all. Is this a generic problem with older AMD cards? I think I found one of your earlier conversations with someone having a similar problem.

I read here on this site that " A set of global settings is stored in the wine.inf file and is processed by the rundll32.exe program. The first time you run Wine the wine.inf file gets processed to populate the initial registry." So if the .dll is supplied by wine it must not be able to communicate with the video card even though linux is using it successfully. The error I keep getting is, "RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x1c010003". I found out what this Rpc code refers to, and that hex number means "unknown interface:. Wine has no idea what this card is.

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Re: trying to get AMD radeon 6450 card working

Post by mlytle0 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:44 pm

Last post. I believe this card is a lost cause. I checked the bios to make sure the computer would allow the AMD card to take over the GPU function from the Intel graphics. Such a setting did exist, I set it the right way, thinking that would do the trick as I've tried everything else. No dice. Then someone over at LinuxQuestions.org, gave me more info.

The driver situation for older cards, is a mess.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/question ... mer-38306/

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