Wine team on bountysource!

[FinixFighter]

Hi! I think that it cloud be a nice idea for Wine team to subscribe to bountysource.com. A lot of people put money for resolving bugs or implementing features, and this can work also for Wine. I'd like to put money on a lot of bug issues, and I think a lot of people would do the same. This would accelerate Wine development, because people are more attracted on resolving issues. Moreover, I think that Wine developers definetely deserve more support for their great work, and this could be a great way to show our support
What do you think?

[Cybermax]

https://www.codeweavers.com/about/support-wine
Dunno if things would conflict in any way?

[dimesio]

The idea of users paying Wine developers to fix bugs comes up periodically. The problem is that most users severely underestimate the cost of developer time.

[Cybermax]

The idea of users paying Wine developers to fix bugs comes up periodically. The problem is that most users severely underestimate the cost of developer time.

True. Luckily quite a few of the dev's have it as their day-job

But i WOULD donate for someone to make a wine working version of apitrace with easy to use instructions tho. Something that could be included in wine and could play back traces from windows and wine, aswell as generate them. THAT would really help devs weed out some bugs imo. As it is now, bugs related to d3d is mostly fixed on a "this might do something" basis, as the dev's usually don't have access/own the game in question.

[FinixFighter]

https://www.codeweavers.com/about/support-wine
Dunno if things would conflict in any way?

I don't think this is a problem, since Wine is part of Software Conservancy. In fact Wine already accepts donations! Anyway, I think that also putting some non intrusive banners on the Wine website could help to increase revenue. Moreover, I think people would be more inclined to donate if there was a page where you can see how much money have been donate monthly; first examples which come to my mind are the Linux Mint's website and Openshot's website; they both show how much people are donating. On Wine we don't if they received 1€ or 1000€; and a lot of people like to see their name in the donators list.
Last but not least, an account on Patreon would be also great! I'd surely support it!
I hope one of these ideas will be used because I think Wine is a very important project and it has an enormous potential!

[FinixFighter]

Look at Godot Engine too: https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/ it is also part of software freedom conservancy, like Wine. They are on patreon and have 1.247 patreons at the moment, for a total of $12,308 per month! They've been able to hire people to work full time on the project! Doing a patreon account has no costs, and could improve Wine's economic situation, improve developing and make Wine more famous!

[dimesio]

Anyway, I think that also putting some non intrusive banners on the Wine website could help to increase revenue.

There's already a prominent Donate link on the front page. As for banners/other ads, personally, I don't want to see them anywhere. One of the things I like about this site is the lack of advertising.

[FinixFighter]

As for banners/other ads, personally, I don't want to see them anywhere. One of the things I like about this site is the lack of advertising.

Ok, I can agree with you about this, but what about the rest?

There's already a prominent Donate link on the front page.

Yeah nice, but things could be better. In my opinion that's not enough

[Cybermax]

I like the idea of donations, but i do not like the idea of "nobody knows where that money got spent".

I have not looked too much at the mechanics behind Bountysource, but i would think more than the forum mod and a couple of users should comment on this too. I dunno if the actual devs read these boards at all tho...

[FinixFighter]

I have not looked too much at the mechanics behind Bountysource, but i would think more than the forum mod and a couple of users should comment on this too. I dunno if the actual devs read these boards at all tho...

Can mod talk to the devs? So that they can know about this discussion

[dimesio]

Can mod talk to the devs? So that they can know about this discussion

I had a brief discussion with one of the devs at WineConf this past weekend. The answer regarding bountysource is that the Wine project cannot offer bug bounties because that would be considered business income and threaten the project's status as a nonprofit organization under IRS rules.

[DarkShadow44]

I had a brief discussion with one of the devs at WineConf this past weekend. The answer regarding bountysource is that the Wine project cannot offer bug bounties because that would be considered business income and threaten the project's status as a nonprofit organization under IRS rules.

I'm pretty sure that, in my country, you could also get into troubles for claiming bug bounties with your current employer or the tax department.
Even if there were open bounties I could address, I couldn't because of those issues. And I'm probably far from the only one with that problem.