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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:20 am 
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Hello,

Adobe Illustrator 7 works only on :
(1) + Debian 8.4.0 + Kernel 3.16.0 586
(2) + with lightdm, loaded with xforcevesa nomodeset
(3) + with a newly created user (/home/username)
(4) + at each reboot, clean up the whole /home/username to make it work
(5) + Wine is wine-1.6.2
You can give a try with this one:
https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdima ... esktop.iso

However, on modern Debian Stable with >4.x kernel with Stable release of Debian is 9.3, codenamed Stretch, Adobe Illustrator, Illustrator 7 will NOT work.

Why and what to do to make it work on any i386 machines, with modern release and kernel?


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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:28 am 
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Not work in what way? From what you describe, it's not really working in the old system either; having to create a new home directory on reboot is not normal.

There's no way of knowing what the problem is in the newer system without seeing console output from it. Make sure you are using the WineHQ packages and the current development release; 1.6.2 is outdated. https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian


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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:09 am 
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dimesio wrote:
Not work in what way? From what you describe, it's not really working in the old system either; having to create a new home directory on reboot is not normal.

There's no way of knowing what the problem is in the newer system without seeing console output from it. Make sure you are using the WineHQ packages and the current development release; 1.6.2 is outdated. https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian



thank you that you are interesting in Illustrator 7 !! Even this very old version.

Vers. 7 is actually the most reliable one, since it is easily running on most genuine Windows.

However, on all Wine + modern kernel 4.x.x, it will give something similar as the following bug:

Code:

Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000002 in 32-bit code (0x0045b4fd).
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
 EIP:0045b4fd ESP:0033ea98 EBP:0033eab8 EFLAGS:00210206(  R- --  I   - -P- )
 EAX:00003d08 EBX:00000000 ECX:0033ea84 EDX:0012d860
 ESI:656d616e EDI:0033ebd8
Stack dump:
0x0033ea98:  0033ebd8 0001001e 003f0020 7ea5ce59
0x0033eaa8:  0033eac8 00003d08 0001001e 0033ebd8
0x0033eab8:  0033ec18 0045b6b5 00010054 0033eadc
0x0033eac8:  0033eb5c 0033eb1c 0033eca0 0033f9e4
0x0033ead8:  7eab7ef0 616a6500 61537556 7e00736e
0x0033eae8:  00000068 7e106588 00000068 7d7721e8
Backtrace:
=>0 0x0045b4fd in illustrator (+0x5b4fd) (0x0033eab8)
  1 0x0045b6b5 in illustrator (+0x5b6b4) (0x0033ec18)
  2 0x7ea5a40e in gdi32 (+0x4a40d) (0x0033ed78)
  3 0x7ea6a9da in gdi32 (+0x5a9d9) (0x0033efc8)
  4 0x7ea6af30 in gdi32 (+0x5af2f) (0x0033f9b8)
  5 0x7ea5a1fd in gdi32 (+0x4a1fc) (0x0033fa18)
  6 0x7ea5c054 EnumFontFamiliesExA+0x53() in gdi32 (0x0033fab8)
  7 0x7ea5c108 EnumFontFamiliesA+0x87() in gdi32 (0x0033fb58)
  8 0x0045b838 in illustrator (+0x5b837) (0x0033fb80)
  9 0x0045b9b1 in illustrator (+0x5b9b0) (0x0033fbb0)
  10 0x0045bea2 in illustrator (+0x5bea1) (0x0033fd00)
  11 0x004d62e6 in illustrator (+0xd62e5) (0x0033fdbc)
  12 0x006638cb in illustrator (+0x2638ca) (0x0033fe50)
  13 0x7b85a9bc call_process_entry+0xb() in kernel32 (0x0033fe68)
  14 0x7b85b9ca in kernel32 (+0x4b9c9) (0x0033fe98)
  15 0x7bc72f60 call_thread_func_wrapper+0xb() in ntdll (0x0033feb8)
  16 0x7bc75d7f call_thread_func+0xce() in ntdll (0x0033ffa8)
  17 0x7bc72f3e RtlRaiseException+0x21() in ntdll (0x0033ffc8)
  18 0x7bc4acf7 call_dll_entry_point+0x776() in ntdll (0x0033ffe8)
  19 0xb75413ad wine_call_on_stack+0x1c() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
  20 0xb7541510 wine_switch_to_stack+0x1f() in libwine.so.1 (0xbf9e5e98)
  21 0x7bc5020a LdrInitializeThunk+0x339() in ntdll (0xbf9e5ef8)
  22 0x7b861613 __wine_kernel_init+0x872() in kernel32 (0xbf9e7058)
  23 0x7bc50783 __wine_process_init+0x162() in ntdll (0xbf9e70c8)
  24 0xb753eff3 wine_init+0x2b2() in libwine.so.1 (0xbf9e7118)
  25 0x7bf00d52 main+0x81() in <wine-loader> (0xbf9e7568)
  26 0xb73b3723 __libc_start_main+0xf2() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
0x0045b4fd: movw   0x2(%ebx),%ax
Modules:
Module   Address         Debug info   Name (88 modules)
PE     400000-  713000   Export          illustrator
PE   40000000-4012e000   Deferred        aires
ELF   7b800000-7ba55000   Dwarf           kernel32<elf>
  \-PE   7b810000-7ba55000   \               kernel32
ELF   7bc00000-7bcd6000   Dwarf           ntdll<elf>
  \-PE   7bc10000-7bcd6000   \               ntdll
ELF   7bf00000-7bf04000   Dwarf           <wine-loader>
ELF   7d722000-7d757000   Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
  \-PE   7d730000-7d757000   \               uxtheme
ELF   7d857000-7d85f000   Deferred        libffi.so.6
ELF   7d85f000-7d8b3000   Deferred        libdbus-1.so.3
ELF   7d8b3000-7d942000   Deferred        libgmp.so.10
ELF   7d942000-7d972000   Deferred        libhogweed.so.2
ELF   7d972000-7d9a7000   Deferred        libnettle.so.4
ELF   7d9a7000-7d9bb000   Deferred        libtasn1.so.6
ELF   7d9bb000-7d9fe000   Deferred        libp11-kit.so.0
ELF   7d9fe000-7da32000   Deferred        libk5crypto.so.3
ELF   7da32000-7db74000   Deferred        libgnutls-deb0.so.28
ELF   7dbba000-7dbd2000   Deferred        libresolv.so.2
ELF   7dbd2000-7dbd7000   Deferred        libkeyutils.so.1
ELF   7dbd7000-7dbe4000   Deferred        libkrb5support.so.0
ELF   7dbe4000-7dbe9000   Deferred        libcom_err.so.2
ELF   7dbe9000-7dcbf000   Deferred        libkrb5.so.3
ELF   7dcbf000-7dcd3000   Deferred        libavahi-client.so.3
ELF   7dcd3000-7dce2000   Deferred        libavahi-common.so.3
ELF   7dce2000-7dd33000   Deferred        libgssapi_krb5.so.2
ELF   7dd33000-7ddaf000   Deferred        libcups.so.2
ELF   7ddaf000-7ddb6000   Deferred        libxfixes.so.3
ELF   7ddb6000-7ddc2000   Deferred        libxcursor.so.1
ELF   7ddc2000-7ddd5000   Deferred        libxi.so.6
ELF   7ddd5000-7ddd9000   Deferred        libxcomposite.so.1
ELF   7ddd9000-7dde5000   Deferred        libxrandr.so.2
ELF   7dde5000-7ddf1000   Deferred        libxrender.so.1
ELF   7ddf1000-7ddf8000   Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF   7ddf8000-7ddfc000   Deferred        libxinerama.so.1
ELF   7ddfc000-7de02000   Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF   7de02000-7de06000   Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF   7de06000-7de2c000   Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF   7de2c000-7df7e000   Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF   7df7e000-7df93000   Deferred        libxext.so.6
ELF   7dfa1000-7e02e000   Deferred        winex11<elf>
  \-PE   7dfb0000-7e02e000   \               winex11
ELF   7e045000-7e06e000   Deferred        libexpat.so.1
ELF   7e06e000-7e0b1000   Deferred        libfontconfig.so.1
ELF   7e0b1000-7e0de000   Deferred        libpng12.so.0
ELF   7e0de000-7e0fb000   Deferred        libz.so.1
ELF   7e0fb000-7e1ad000   Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
ELF   7e1ad000-7e1d0000   Deferred        libtinfo.so.5
ELF   7e1d0000-7e1f8000   Deferred        libncurses.so.5
ELF   7e206000-7e231000   Deferred        msacm32<elf>
  \-PE   7e210000-7e231000   \               msacm32
ELF   7e231000-7e2e9000   Deferred        winmm<elf>
  \-PE   7e240000-7e2e9000   \               winmm
ELF   7e2e9000-7e310000   Deferred        mpr<elf>
  \-PE   7e2f0000-7e310000   \               mpr
ELF   7e310000-7e38b000   Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
  \-PE   7e320000-7e38b000   \               rpcrt4
ELF   7e38b000-7e4b9000   Deferred        ole32<elf>
  \-PE   7e3a0000-7e4b9000   \               ole32
ELF   7e4b9000-7e5b3000   Deferred        comctl32<elf>
  \-PE   7e4c0000-7e5b3000   \               comctl32
ELF   7e5b3000-7e629000   Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE   7e5c0000-7e629000   \               shlwapi
ELF   7e629000-7e852000   Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE   7e640000-7e852000   \               shell32
ELF   7e852000-7e937000   Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE   7e860000-7e937000   \               comdlg32
ELF   7e937000-7e973000   Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE   7e940000-7e973000   \               winspool
ELF   7e973000-7e98c000   Deferred        version<elf>
  \-PE   7e980000-7e98c000   \               version
ELF   7e98c000-7e9fa000   Deferred        advapi32<elf>
  \-PE   7e9a0000-7e9fa000   \               advapi32
ELF   7e9fa000-7eb14000   Dwarf           gdi32<elf>
  \-PE   7ea10000-7eb14000   \               gdi32
ELF   7eb14000-7ec62000   Deferred        user32<elf>
  \-PE   7eb30000-7ec62000   \               user32
ELF   7ef80000-7ef8d000   Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF   7ef8d000-7ef99000   Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
ELF   7ef99000-7efb2000   Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF   7efb2000-7efbb000   Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
ELF   7efbb000-7f000000   Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF   b7395000-b739a000   Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF   b739a000-b750e000   Dwarf           libc.so.6
ELF   b750f000-b752a000   Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF   b7538000-b76ed000   Dwarf           libwine.so.1
ELF   b76ef000-b7711000   Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
ELF   b7714000-b7715000   Deferred        [vdso].so
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) Z:\illustrator-7.0-us\illustrator.exe
   00000009    0 <==
0000000c services.exe
   0000002e    0
   0000002d    0
   0000002c    0
   00000029    0
   00000028    0
   0000000e    0
   0000000d    0
00000014 explorer.exe
   00000016    0
   00000015    0
0000002a winedevice.exe
   00000031    0
   00000030    0
   0000002f    0
   0000002b    0
System information:
    Wine build: wine-1.6.2
    Platform: i386
    Host system: Linux
    Host version: 4.5.5




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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:35 pm 
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spartan59 wrote:
Vers. 7 is actually the most reliable one, since it is easily running on most genuine Windows.

According to the AppDB, 8 and 10 are the versions that work best in Wine. If you have access to one of those versions, you might want to try it. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... ion&iId=20

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System information:
    Wine build: wine-1.6.2

You still need to upgrade Wine. 1.6.2 is over four years old and no longer supported.


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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:33 am 
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dimesio wrote:
spartan59 wrote:
Vers. 7 is actually the most reliable one, since it is easily running on most genuine Windows.

According to the AppDB, 8 and 10 are the versions that work best in Wine. If you have access to one of those versions, you might want to try it. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... ion&iId=20

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Code:
System information:
    Wine build: wine-1.6.2

You still need to upgrade Wine. 1.6.2 is over four years old and no longer supported.



Hi,

I noticed during experiments that version 7 and 8 are both working or not.
7 and 8 are similar.

Ok. I am fine that the wine version above is outdated.

So far, so good. Could you please help me?

Could you please download the version 8.0 and install it and then tell me if you are capable to run it under Linux?

I bet you that not.

I know already the reason, higher than 4.5.x kernel, it does NOT work.

thank you a lot for your efforts for helping


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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:01 am 
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spartan59 wrote:
Could you please download the version 8.0 and install it and then tell me if you are capable to run it under Linux?

There is no free legal download of that version. Pirated software is not supported and discussing it is against forum rules.

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I know already the reason, higher than 4.5.x kernel, it does NOT work.

If you're right about that then my testing would be meaningless anyway, since my kernel is 4.4.x.

What you need to do is retest in the current development release (3.6) of Wine. If the problem is still present, run a regression test and file a bug.


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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:35 pm 
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Code:
00000008 (D) Z:\illustrator-7.0-us\illustrator.exe

Where have you installed Illustrator?? This looks really suspect...
Wine's Z:\ drive is normally mapped to the system root /.

I'd recommend reading through the WineHQ FAQ...
Especially: WineHQ FAQ: 6.2 Should I run Wine as root?

If you've simply mapped a native Windows install of Illustrator to Wine...
That won't work...

Bob


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